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Old 10-10-2016, 11:51 AM
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YJ versus other jeeps-found a 94 or 95 for sale

I sold my old CJ quite a few years ago and have regretted it many times since....I now have a young driver in the house and he is interested in jeeps. I found a YJ for sale in SE Michigan for 3500 bucks which seems like a fair price but I'm worried about rust....seems like that always has been the risk of Jeeps, especially of the AMC era.

The VIN starts with 1J4FY.... ; does that make it a 94? I was reading that 95 had galvanized frame/body metal. The poster on this jeep where it sits says that it's a 95 but it's rusty. There are spots where the body has rusted through. The frame seems ok but I feel scaling rust where I can get my fingers in the box frame. Maybe that is normal? Body mounts seem pretty torn up, not sure if that is normal? The rubber is kind of missing or chunked away in various part of the mounts.

It's a 4 cyl with 5 speed trans. Fine for a young driver, the less power the better! Any thought on how rusty is too bad? I've heard the YJ frames are a risk as no drains. I see couple holes in the bottom of the body too and real rusty by drivers left foot on the inside...like behind the jeep logo.

I should have kept my old one but it's gone! Just starting to shop and need to know what the story is for CJ vs YJ vs TJ????? thanks, Moday

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If I was buying a Wrangler for a beginning driver, I would look at TJs.
There is enough that can go wrong with a TJ without the additional worry about what can go wrong with a YJ.

In my experience, a YJ is more likely to be a "project" vehicle. You can read through the YJ and TJ forums for common problems.

I'll bet there are still a few YJs that are low miles and close to stock. Finding such a vehicle for sale might be a problem. Here in Colorado, it's not uncommon to find a rust free YJ (and maybe even a few CJs).

I agree, a 4cyl. stick is a good vehicle for a beginning driver. The Jeep standard shift trans is geared low enough that he probably won't stall it as he learns.

I have read on this forum that 1995 YJs have a galvanized frame. Recent posts have called that into question.

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Personally, I'd pass on a rust bucket. (I live in a warm, dry climate, so I'm spoiled in that way.)

And that YJ doesn't sound like its in great shape.

And I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy the 4cyl 2.5L engine - its underpowered IMO.

I'd recommend that you look for a clean YJ in the southwest
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And I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy the 4cyl 2.5L engine - its underpowered IMO.

I wonder how many 6 cylinder motors saw service in US Military Jeeps?


I would not give a young ( new ) driver a manual transmission ..... they will have their hands full with everything else without having to worry about clutching and changing gears ....... unless they have had prior experience riding/driving a clutch ..... like on a dirt bike. ( or go cart made with a motorcycle motor )
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I have read on this forum that 1995 YJs have a galvanized frame. Recent posts have called that into question.

Good Luck, L.M.
I am one who questioned it because I am about to embark on some frame rust repair on a 1995 YJ. If it is galvanized, then some serious precautions need to be taken when doing the welding.
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I wonder how many 6 cylinder motors saw service in US Military Jeeps?
Bad example...requirements are totally different for a military vehicle than for a street vehicle.

If you're in love with the 2.5L, then just say so. That's your opinion.

All the OP needs to do is look at all the 2.5L engine swap threads...it seems like everyone is taking the 2.5L out of their Jeep and dropping in something more powerful.
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Bad example...requirements are totally different for a military vehicle than for a street vehicle.
True .... the military vehicles were tasked for heavier duty use than the common street vehicle. I mean how many street Jeeps do you see carrying 100's of pounds of communications gear, recoiless rifles, machine guns and the like.

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All the OP needs to do is look at all the 2.5L engine swap threads...it seems like everyone is taking the 2.5L out of their Jeep and dropping in something more powerful.
I understand the American muscle mentality of " more is better " but I also understand the concept that at times " less is more ".

Just because it's bigger, doesn't alway make it better. I have two bikes here, one is 1300cc and the other is 1800cc, both are the same model. I'll let you ride them both, along the same 20 mile route and when you come back I know you will prefer that 1300cc one.
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Anything you find for less than 10k is going to need work. Find something you are happy with, and start a family tradition of working on the old heap and make it yours. My 95 2.5l 5 spd just made it thru 2 yrs of high school boy in training, and survived well. It is now back in my hands. I'll admit, when I first bought it, my first plan was to ditch the 4 hamsters for a big 350 SBC. Then I realized how foolish that was, and started taking care of what I had. This engine has been great, starts everytime, doesn't use oil and pushes me down the highway at 60mph just fine rolling on stock axles and 33's. If you want to roll 80, buy a Vette. I personally have it for fun. Good luck in your pursuit and welcome to the madness.
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I like my YJ for its simplicity. I have almost no mechanical knowledge but I can at least figure a few things out on my jeep and handle myself. For a daily driver and reliability a TJ is probably the better bet, that being said my YJ has never left me on the side of the road. I have the 2.5 and although weak it gets me to the trails and when I'm just cruising with the family it gets me going fast enough (I stay off the interstate whenever possible). Of course I have 35's so it would be a little better as stock. No complaints here with my YJ or 2. 5

I agree with the thought of slow is better for a new driver. I've been saying I'd like to get my daughter an older 4 banger jeep when the time comes

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My YJ is my first vehicle. It's been great so far! I'm pretty mechanically understanding, and I have no real issue taking on anything that comes up on my own if I have enough time. It's a very easy vehicle to work on. I have the 2.5L, 4 banger, and I agree that it's underpowered, but I don't really want any speeding tickets. The small engine gives the opportunity to slow down, roll the windows down, and smell the...exhaust fumes. But yeah, it's a great first vehicle if you want to learn some basic mechanics, have some spare time, and are willing to get dirty. Look for a clean, rust free one and you'll be good for the most part.
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You can find a rust-free Jeep in that price range, just keep looking. You may do well to search southern states as we only salt the roads occasionally (as in once or twice every couple of years or so).
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I have a '94 YJ. I like TJ's, but prefer the YJ because it feels more like a CJ with the leaf springs. The dash is also a little more rugged looking, though not as basic as the CJ. When I was shopping, I drove several TJ's and YJ's. Just like the YJ seemed a little nicer (cushier?) than the CJ, the TJ is the same to the YJ.

Mine is a 2.5L manual, and although you can read a lot of negative opinions on the 4 cyl., I think the power is adequate. Running around town it's perfectly fine. On the interstate, top speed is about 70 mph, and frankly I have no desire to go any faster than that in a Jeep. Offroad, it climbs and crawls with power to spare.
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As far as galvanized frame on 95 dont know but I can tell you they still rot out. I picked up a 95 parts jeep that ran like a top on the road for cheap. Frame was toast both rear frame rails totally wasted and in front by stering box probably elsewhere but didnt look further. Didnt look like a rot box at 1st glance but was picture of it below. On a side note it was a 4 cyl 5 spd and the 25 miles I drove it home it cruised easily on highway(I was careful not to hit any potholes lol) and while not as powerful as my 6 cyl 92 it wasnt terrible to drive. Here is the rotted frame Jeep

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