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Old 03-27-2018, 12:50 AM
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Thanks for the pics/info Nate Are you planning on running the armor plates? Are the plates pretty easy to install? I could see only running them as needed, i.e., when hitting the trails.





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No problem Steven! I think itís always handy to have some real world pics other than the ones on the website. I looked at the armor for the steps and decided against it. I was able to see a few steps on other rigs at the shop that had been thoroughly beaten up one side and down the other. They looked rough paint wise, but the step and functionality was still spot on. The metal is thick steel and thicker than the rubicon sliders we had before.
As for install and removal, I do not think they are set up to do that. I went with the version that had the body armor and I think that will give me some added structural support. Iím very happy with how they are working, how they look and we will see next week how they fair in Moab.


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I keep seeing folks headed to EJS already and itís killing me that Iím so close and yet so far. Next year we are doing a southern Utah Easter with EJS as a big part of it. Priorities.


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Pre Moab chores




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Itís all about the stickers


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Question is, did it fly further because of the sticker?
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Question is, did it fly further because of the sticker?


It provided some very needed smooth surfacing that decreased the drag to rubber band ratio significantly. Whatís great is that he got second place, did most of the work himself (minus the super glue) and wanted the sticker on there after looking around the work bench. Iím just glad PS throws so many stickers in every box


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I ordered this almost a year ago and finally they started putting them out. Hopefully worth the wait! Time to install it on the KMS rack.


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I feel like my clone just appeared at the gym. Maybe not exactly, but give it some time.

Theyíve still got to rip those ugly fenders off!


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I feel like my clone just appeared at the gym. Maybe not exactly, but give it some time.

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Yep. The wheels caught my eye at first. Metallic red, but just too much in my opinion. I like a little more subtlety, but to each their own. It made me just stop in the middle of the lot and ďI came toĒ with two cars honking at me. Hahaha. Looks like just lift and tires. I was tempted to crawl under, but time was of the essence. Next time!


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I think I’ve had this screen for a year or more and always meant to hook it up. I had a navtool in place for my backup cam and it worked great. My only beef with the whole system was that it kicked off almost as soon as I moved the shifter. I like it to stay on a bit longer until I’m moving forward. There have been plenty of other times that I’ve wanted to be able to look behind me when I’m not backing up. If I’m towing anything it’s nice to have that view for sure.
I also plan on adding another camera up front or underneath somehow to watch tire placement and approach view to obstacles. This has worked perfectly so far as I’ve tested it.

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I think I’ve had this screen for a year or more and always meant to hook it up. I had a navtool in place for my backup cam and it worked great. My only beef with the whole system was that it kicked off almost as soon as I moved the shifter. I like it to stay on a bit longer until I’m moving forward. There have been plenty of other times that I’ve wanted to be able to look behind me when I’m not backing up. If I’m towing anything it’s nice to have that view for sure.
I also plan on adding another camera up front or underneath somehow to watch tire placement and approach view to obstacles. This has worked perfectly so far as I’ve tested it.

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This looks great! Which Navtool did you purchase, video-in-motion?


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NavTool 3.0. I believe it offers the vehicle in motion. Problem is that none of them really are 100% compatible with a manual transmission. The functionality on the steering wheel is not there. It worked like a charm for reverse, but I could not see video any other time. So kind of expensive just for a backup camera. This is on demand. It has much more functionality for me.
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Despite 20 attempts with my phone I was never able to get a decent picture to justify the night effect of these tail lights. The JWSpeaker rear LED lights, rugged ridge spare LED lights and the MC license plate relocation lights all together have an impressive effect. Iíve never followed my Jeep at night since adding these, but my wife says itís an attention getter.


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Took a little trip up into the Portneuf Range in Idaho. Some fun trails were found. Nothing too technical, but it was sure fun cruising through the woods and seeing some wildlife. There were a few mud holes along the way.


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Added a little beef to the axles inside and out. Tubes are now sleeved, gussets on Cs and trussed front and back. I also removed some of the bracketed that was bolted on (well I broke the brackets) and welded new Teraflex versions in place for swaybar mounts front and back. Overall it drives like a dream again and I have zero concerns about the axles with what I do to them. If they ever do bend I know where this will be headed and itís not a daily driver. I swapped the gears out for 4.88s and that has been a nice little change. My MPG sucks but I donít have to wildly shift up and down when I drive the mountains anymore. When the put the transfer case covers back on I also swapped those out for Poison Spyder bombshells. They do look beefy! Still breaking in the gears. I will post an update once we get done with that and have a chance to hit Moab.


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Nice beef added to the axles Enjoy the new gears.


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So remember the bracket you sent? I busted that right next to the u bolt that held it to the axle on the medial side. I couldnít believe it. I donít think it will happen again now hat the bracket is welded on, but there must have been just enough force to really warp it and allow it to break. It had a death wobble you would not believe. Jeep drives like a dream again though with the falcon SS on soft.


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So remember the bracket you sent? I busted that right next to the u bolt that held it to the axle on the medial side. I couldnít believe it. I donít think it will happen again now hat the bracket is welded on, but there must have been just enough force to really warp it and allow it to break. It had a death wobble you would not believe. Jeep drives like a dream again though with the falcon SS on soft.


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Wow...you broke that MC bracket! Have you been out wheeling with AzScooter??? Lol

Glad to hear you are dialed in again, and from the looks of your latest mods, you should be pretty bulletproof. Were you hinting at going to 40's???


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That’s starting look like the underside of my Jeep...of course, I have news.
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Hahaha I want to see it @AzScooter !!!! Yeah itís probably in the future @Buildit . I got to get the wife to sign of on some new rubber, but I still have some good tread left.


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I have really enjoyed them. On snow they have been money. Off-road on rock and mud they do really well as well. I think the amount of siping vs other tires have make a really big difference. That being said we will see how the life of them ends up. I trashed them pretty hard on the rocks a while back and I think they still are doing ok. I donít think Iíll get 40k miles out of them, but Iíll probably want to change it up any way. What about the mastercrafts you run? Iíve looked at nittos mud grapplers and Toyo open country, but they were so heavy. The price on the stt was so good I really couldnít pass it up. $300/tire installed and road hazard warranty.



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I have really enjoyed them. On snow they have been money. Off-road on rock and mud they do really well as well. I think the amount of siping vs other tires have make a really big difference. That being said we will see how the life of them ends up. I trashed them pretty hard on the rocks a while back and I think they still are doing ok. I don’t think I’ll get 40k miles out of them, but I’ll probably want to change it up any way. What about the mastercrafts you run? I’ve looked at nittos mud grapplers and Toyo open country, but they were so heavy. The price on the stt was so good I really couldn’t pass it up. $300/tire installed and road hazard warranty.



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Thanks for the run down on the STT's. They sound like they are a great tire, and still a bargain!

Same for the Mastercraft's, great in the snow, really great in the wet. I had situations on the trails where we had to enter muddy water and then climb a rock ledge/wall. They were always up to the task, on one of those climbs I had a group of UTV drivers watching and betting against me. They all told me right after how impressed they were.

They are starting get noisy, nothing crazy, just more aware of them. I have ~20k on them. When it's time, I'd like to try something else. Agree with you, some of the other MT tires are so heavy. Interested in the new KM 3's. Looking forward to seeing them in person as well as dimensions. They've run a the smaller side in the past.

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@Buildit Iím not sure what Iíll do for replacement. These have been up to the task in all situations like you mentioned. I wish I could try a couple and see what I thought all at once. Wouldnít it be nice to pull into the pit and have all four replaced with a different option and then roll back out on the same trail for a honest comparison? I know it will never be the BFG mud terrains again. Those were awful and happily sold. I thought long and hard about the mastercrafts. Iíd actually like to try the ITV tire I have on my rzr if it came in a 37. Maxxis Roxzilla!! I think between @AzScooter , you and I we hit a nice spectrum. We should meet in Moab and swap tires everyday to see what we like.

On another note.......rockslide steps!
Rock Slide Engineering has been amazing with their customer service and warranty these past few weeks. I started having some issues with the step not fully retracting. That little problem began after I dropped it off for the axle work (1.5wks of sitting not being used) and I think was the major insult. That poor retracting worsened to the point I had to lift the step as the motor ran so it would fully retract. After driving one day I noticed it had actually fallen and was coated with ice. Not ideal. I dropped it off at the shop and found the motor was stripped on the passenger side. They replaced the motor and the sensors for the door. The motor was wired backwards and I ended up having to wait another week without the steps (you realize quickly how much you need them in the winter when you donít have them) and then everything was taken care of in the course of a day. Fast forward to last week and Iím in a weird rainstorm in the middle of winter in northern Utah (*??). As I get out I noticed a weird smoke coming from under the Jeep and think this must be the exhaust as itís right there. Mind you the steps are working flawlessly at this point. I peek under and nope, no sign of smoke from the exhaust. I close the door and smoke rises from between the rocker guard and the body of the Jeep (just under the seam in the back dooró-see pic). WHAT??!!!! I open the rear door and hear a literal sizzle and see a little smoke again. Close the door and more smoke and it smells electrical. I turned off the cutoff switch so they were retracted and powerless. Down the rabbit hole we go again. Another few days without a step and I finally can drop it off. A day later in the shop and turns out the light strip was shorting out. The driver side motor was warrantied and replaced. In the end it was super frustrating to constantly be in and out of the shop constantly, but I was super pleased with RockSlideís standing behind their product.




So keep your steps lubed and clean as can be. Especially in the salty froth of winter if you are not using them for any extended period of time.



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@Buildit Iím not sure what Iíll do for replacement. These have been up to the task in all situations like you mentioned. I wish I could try a couple and see what I thought all at once. Wouldnít it be nice to pull into the pit and have all four replaced with a different option and then roll back out on the same trail for a honest comparison? I know it will never be the BFG mud terrains again. Those were awful and happily sold. I thought long and hard about the mastercrafts. Iíd actually like to try the ITV tire I have on my rzr if it came in a 37. Maxxis Roxzilla!! I think between @AzScooter , you and I we hit a nice spectrum. We should meet in Moab and swap tires everyday to see what we like.

On another note.......rockslide steps!
Rock Slide Engineering has been amazing with their customer service and warranty these past few weeks. I started having some issues with the step not fully retracting. That little problem began after I dropped it off for the axle work (1.5wks of sitting not being used) and I think was the major insult. That poor retracting worsened to the point I had to lift the step as the motor ran so it would fully retract. After driving one day I noticed it had actually fallen and was coated with ice. Not ideal. I dropped it off at the shop and found the motor was stripped on the passenger side. They replaced the motor and the sensors for the door. The motor was wired backwards and I ended up having to wait another week without the steps (you realize quickly how much you need them in the winter when you donít have them) and then everything was taken care of in the course of a day. Fast forward to last week and Iím in a weird rainstorm in the middle of winter in northern Utah (*??). As I get out I noticed a weird smoke coming from under the Jeep and think this must be the exhaust as itís right there. Mind you the steps are working flawlessly at this point. I peek under and nope, no sign of smoke from the exhaust. I close the door and smoke rises from between the rocker guard and the body of the Jeep (just under the seam in the back dooró-see pic). WHAT??!!!! I open the rear door and hear a literal sizzle and see a little smoke again. Close the door and more smoke and it smells electrical. I turned off the cutoff switch so they were retracted and powerless. Down the rabbit hole we go again. Another few days without a step and I finally can drop it off. A day later in the shop and turns out the light strip was shorting out. The driver side motor was warrantied and replaced. In the end it was super frustrating to constantly be in and out of the shop constantly, but I was super pleased with RockSlideís standing behind their product.




So keep your steps lubed and clean as can be. Especially in the salty froth of winter if you are not using them for any extended period of time.



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Thanks for your thoughts on the tires. Agree with you...wouldn't it be great to be able to sample more tires!

Great to hear that Rock Slide stood behind their product. In the end, that's all I want. Things break, wear out, etc., just don't leave us hanging.

Up until the problems you had with the steps not fully retracting, did you lubricate yours?

I ask because I was in Hurricane all last week at Winter 4x4 Jam and hung out with the RSE crew. I asked about maintenance for the steps, as this winter, I noticed one of mine was beginning to move slower. They said two things, keep them clean, which I do, and lubricate them, which I had not done.

They use Blaster Industrial silicone lubricant. When I got home I sprayed mine, and sure enough they were moving again like they did when I first installed them. This was in twenty degree temps, not unlike what you see in Logan. Also, when I was lubricating them, I noticed I had ice covering some of the joints, no doubt from the last wash. Keeping them coated in silicone should not only lubricate the moving parts, but help keep the moisture out as well.


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@Buildit i did try and keep them clean, but life gets crazy and I know I had a bunch of days between cleanings at one point. But I was not using hat particular lubricant. Iíd used some fluid film in winter and some pb blaster here and there in the summer between straight lithium grease. Iíll give this a shot though, because Iíve seen the build up of ice as well.

I caught your vids on the winter Jeep jam last weekend. Looked like a fun weekend.


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