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Old 10-31-2017, 08:18 AM
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2017 JKUR Recon - The Scarlet Witch Build

Hello Everyone,

After reading Buildit’s thread and a few others on here; I’m hooked! So I figured I would start a Build Thread of my own.

I'd like to introduce everyone to The Scarlet Witch! My wife and I call her Wanda for short.





After tons of reading and youtube videos along with endless support from Other_Erik here, I've come up with where I want to take Wanda in her transformation. The end game is for Wanda to be able to tackle most trails including Rubicon one day. My wife and I have discussed completing the Badge of Honor Trails as a bucket list item.

So the list I have below is subject to change in the future. Please let me know what parts I’m missing since I’m still very new to this. Also I plan to do most of the wrenching myself with the help from my Brother-In-Law and Best Friend two doors down. Both are great mechanics.


Planned Build Specs as of October 31, 2017:

• EVO Manufacturing Front LCG Coilover Kit - JK
• EVO Manufacturing Dana 44 LCG Bolt-On Coilover Kit w/EVO Spec Coilovers
• EVO Manufacturing Double D Long Arm Upgrade Kit - JK
• King Rear Air Bumps
• Nitto Trail Grappler 37x12.50R-17LT Tire
• KMC Wheels XD229 Machete Beadlock Satin Black Wheel 17x9 5X5
• Magnaflow Rock Crawler Series Cat-Back Exhaust 2.5in
• Banks Engineering Ram-Air Intake System
• LOD JK Destroyer Full-Width Front Bumper
• LOD JK Destroyer Full-Width Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier and all accessories
• LOD JK Destroyer Series Rock Sliders (Undecided)
• EVO MFG Vacuum Pump Relocation Bracket
• EVO MFG Skidplate System
• EVO Rocker Skins
• WARN PowerPlant 9500
• Rock Hard Sport Cage (Need Advice on This)
• ARB TWIN AIR COMPRESSOR, ARB COMPRESSOR MOUNT, TIRE PUMP KIT AND ARB MANIFOLD
• Odyssey Battery
• Cobra 29 LXBT CB Radio
• Firestik II Antenna
• The sPod 6 switch Panel w/ Dual LED Red Switches
• Rigid Industries D-Series Midnight Edition Black Spot Optic, 2 Pairs
• Rigid Industries D-Series Midnight Edition LED Spot Flush Mount (1 Pair for Reverse Lights)
• Rigid Industries Double A-Pillar Mount for Jeep JK
• Rigid Industries E-Series PRO | 50" Spot Midnight Edition
• SUPERCHIPS FLASHCAL F5 PROGRAMMER
• HI-LIFT 48IN JACK (Red)
• AEV or Red ARB Differential Cover
• G2 Axle & Gear Front and Rear Ring and Pinion with Master Install Kit (5.13 or 5.38 Gear Ratio)
Dynatrac JK44-2X112 ProGrip Brake System (Seen on Wayalife’s Youtube Channel.)
DV8 FENDB-06 Slim Fenders
DV8 Off-road INFEND01-FBRL Front Inner Fenders with LED Rock Lights
DV8 Off-road Rear Inner fenders
J.E. Reel Heavy Duty Front and Rear Driveshafts
Axle Shafts Need Advice

Thanks in advance to any and all suggestions.

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Looks like a great list!

I'd suggest a couple of things:
  • 5.13 gears, 5.38 is a bit small for a D44 IMO.
  • Rear axle shafts, the flanges will bend fairly quickly with that heavy tire
  • At that level of build drive shafts seem like a good add

I look forward to following your build!
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Damn nice! But you forgot the CB antenna Sorry I see it in there
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Hello Everyone,

After reading Build-It’s thread and a few others on here; I’m hooked! So I figured I would start a Build Thread of my own.

I'd like to introduce everyone to The Scarlet Witch! My wife and I call her Wanda for short.





After tons of reading and youtube videos along with endless support from Other_Erik here, I've come up with where I want to take Wanda in her transformation. The end game is for Wanda to be able to tackle most trails including Rubicon one day. My wife and I have discussed completing the Badge of Honor Trails as a bucket list item.

So the list I have below is subject to change in the future. Please let me know what parts I’m missing since I’m still very new to this. Also I plan to do most of the wrenching myself with the help from my Brother-In-Law and Best Friend two doors down. Both are great mechanics.


Planned Build Specs as of October 31, 2017:

• EVO Manufacturing Front LCG Coilover Kit - JK
• EVO Manufacturing Dana 44 LCG Bolt-On Coilover Kit w/EVO Spec Coilovers
• EVO Manufacturing Double D Long Arm Upgrade Kit - JK
• King Rear Air Bumps
• Nitto Trail Grappler 37x12.50R-17LT Tire
• KMC Wheels XD229 Machete Beadlock Satin Black Wheel 17x9 5X5
• Magnaflow Rock Crawler Series Cat-Back Exhaust 2.5in
• Banks Engineering Ram-Air Intake System
• LOD JK Destroyer Full-Width Front Bumper
• LOD JK Destroyer Full-Width Rear Bumper w/ Tire Carrier and all accessories
• LOD JK Destroyer Series Rock Sliders (Undecided)
• EVO MFG Vacuum Pump Relocation Bracket
• EVO MFG Skidplate System
• EVO Rocker Skins
• WARN PowerPlant 9500
• Rock Hard Sport Cage (Need Advice on This)
• ARB TWIN AIR COMPRESSOR, ARB COMPRESSOR MOUNT, TIRE PUMP KIT AND ARB MANIFOLD
• Odyssey Battery
• Cobra 29 LXBT CB Radio
• Firestik II Antenna
• The sPod 6 switch Panel w/ Dual LED Red Switches
• Rigid Industries D-Series Midnight Edition Black Spot Optic, 2 Pairs
• Rigid Industries D-Series Midnight Edition LED Spot Flush Mount (1 Pair for Reverse Lights)
• Rigid Industries Double A-Pillar Mount for Jeep JK
• Rigid Industries E-Series PRO | 50" Spot Midnight Edition
• SUPERCHIPS FLASHCAL F5 PROGRAMMER
• HI-LIFT 48IN JACK (Red)
• AEV or Red ARB Differential Cover
• G2 Axle & Gear Front and Rear Ring and Pinion with Master Install Kit (5.13 or 5.38 Gear Ratio)

Thanks in advance to any and all suggestions.
She's a beauty, congrats! I like that you've put some good thought into what your "endgame" is. I'm running 4.88's/37's and she will cruise 80mph @ 3000rpm. This works great for covering long interstate runs to out West. The 4:1 transfer case allows me to nearly idle up big rocks/shelves.

Good luck with your build, I'll be following along


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Sweet...another great build to follow .

C’mon...go for the 8 switch sPOD. It’s better to have it and not need it...trust me!

Also, as Baby Blue Sound suggested, drive shafts are a good idea at the level you seem to be targeting.

And...sorry if I missed this on your list, but you will absolutely have to upgrade those brakes!


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Thanks everyone!

So I’ll definitely go with the 8 Pod since it makes sense. And of course once I posted I completely remembered reading Buildit’s post about brakes. Will add those as well.
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Looks like a great list!

I'd suggest a couple of things:
  • 5.13 gears, 5.38 is a bit small for a D44 IMO.
  • Rear axle shafts, the flanges will bend fairly quickly with that heavy tire
  • At that level of build drive shafts seem like a good add

I look forward to following your build!

Thanks Blue for the recommendations. Is there any brand you would recommend over another for the Axle Shafts and Drive Shafts?
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She's a beauty, congrats! I like that you've put some good thought into what your "endgame" is. I'm running 4.88's/37's and she will cruise 80mph @ 3000rpm. This works great for covering long interstate runs to out West. The 4:1 transfer case allows me to nearly idle up big rocks/shelves.

Good luck with your build, I'll be following along


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Thanks Steven it means a lot coming from you. Took me a few days to read your entire build thread and I’m completely in love with your rig. Hopfully Wanda grows up one day to be half as nice as Rubi.
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Thanks Blue for the recommendations. Is there any brand you would recommend over another for the Axle Shafts and Drive Shafts?
Axle shafts I only experience with Revolution, they're 4340 with everything pressed on and ready to go.

Drive shafts I only have experience with Adams.

No issues with either of those brands and I'd purchase them again.
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You can also do the Switch-Pros instead of the SPOD. Much more affordable too.
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We just installed a set of Tom Wood’s 1350s. It’s too early to report on our experience with anything but the install, which was as smooth as can be...

Tom Wood’s, along with Adams Drive Shafts.

You’re definitely going to want something a bit more heavy duty than the stock shafts.

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On axle shafts - I'm not intimately familiar with the brands out there, so big grain of salt here... Check out Yukon, they've got an option for chromoly shafts that are certainly stronger than the stock ones.

Can't wait to see how this all turns out! Hope my advice was somewhat helpful, but yep you'll get much more experienced advice on this forum. Sub'd to see the progress

I'll reiterate one piece of advice I gave in PM because I think it's important for all first-time Jeepers: Take it out bone stock (okay, maybe plus some armor underneath) and get a feel for how it drives, what you like doing, what it's capable of. The Rubicon trim with very little modification will take you places you wouldn't expect, and get you back with ease. The limiting factor at the moment is the loose nut behind the wheel!

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On axle shafts - I'm not intimately familiar with the brands out there, so big grain of salt here... Check out Yukon, they've got an option for chromoly shafts that are certainly stronger than the stock ones.

Can't wait to see how this all turns out! Hope my advice was somewhat helpful, but yep you'll get much more experienced advice on this forum. Sub'd to see the progress

I'll reiterate one piece of advice I gave in PM because I think it's important for all first-time Jeepers: Take it out bone stock (okay, maybe plus some armor underneath) and get a feel for how it drives, what you like doing, what it's capable of. The Rubicon trim with very little modification will take you places you wouldn't expect, and get you back with ease. The limiting factor at the moment is the loose nut behind the wheel!

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LOL Get that comment at work all of the time; Loose Nut behind the Keyboard. Mostly from the former military guys. LOL

So yah my buddy and I were discussing going out this Sunday for a ride. You said FlagPole Knob and somewhere else? Had to delete a lot of our messages because inbox was full.
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LOL Get that comment at work all of the time; Loose Nut behind the Keyboard. Mostly from the former military guys. LOL

So yah my buddy and I were discussing going out this Sunday for a ride. You said FlagPole Knob and somewhere else? Had to delete a lot of our messages because inbox was full.
You'll have fun at Flagpole. PLENTY of trails that will be easily doable for your Recon in stock form. Is your buddy familiar with Jeeps / offroading in general? If not, you really should find someone who can teach the basics of spotting / obstacle technicals. Wouldn't hurt if they knew the trails there at Flagpole... The last time I went I got all turned around even running with a group, no way I could've found my way out easily at the end of the day.

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Got your PM and the list looks nice. Where's the armor, though? Would be a shame to take it out there and smash up the oil pan or gas tank or transmission pan or.......

Did you end up taking it out on the trails already? I've been swamped with work on the house.

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Nice starting point! Maybe a Yeti tie rod and drag link to beef up the steering would be a good idea. Also adding a big brake kit would be another good addition. Interior LED's are a great addition for the interior, the superbrightleds parts list is around here somewhere.
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Whats your time frame look like for the build?
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Whats your time frame look like for the build?

So the plan is to be lifted and on 37's before April and Jeep Beach Week.

All parts are in the shopping cart and ready to order come Black Friday sale next week. Hope to have the bulk order here by the first week of December.

Yeti Steering and Dynatrac Big Brake Kit are on that list.
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So the plan is to be lifted and on 37's before April and Jeep Beach Week.

All parts are in the shopping cart and ready to order come Black Friday sale next week. Hope to have the bulk order here by the first week of December.

Yeti Steering and Dynatrac Big Brake Kit are on that list.
On the BBK - is that just the bracket/rotor/pad kit? For the same-ish money, you'd probably get more bang for your buck with the Mopar front BBK that includes bigger multi-piston calipers and replacement master cylinder and brake booster. I'm not knocking Dynatrac's product, I'm sure it's a boost to braking power, but I don't want to see you upgrade parts, then decide later to upgrade them again... You're going big, go right the first time 'round

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On the BBK - is that just the bracket/rotor/pad kit? For the same-ish money, you'd probably get more bang for your buck with the Mopar front BBK that includes bigger multi-piston calipers and replacement master cylinder and brake booster. I'm not knocking Dynatrac's product, I'm sure it's a boost to braking power, but I don't want to see you upgrade parts, then decide later to upgrade them again... You're going big, go right the first time 'round

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Hey Erik,

This is the system I am looking to purchase.

https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/b...upgrade-system
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Yah I wish I had a fraction of his Money. LOL If I did I'd be going and throwing cash down on a fully built rig from Rubitrux with a Hemi and All the Bells and Whistles included. LOL

So question about Superchips Programmers; is there any real advantage of purchasing the TrailDash2 or the FlashPaq over the Flashcal F5? Both are $300 and $400 more then the Flashcal F5.
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Hey Erik,

This is the system I am looking to purchase.

https://www.northridge4x4.com/part/b...upgrade-system
I'd more highly recommend this system (at the lowest price I could find, shipped:
https://moparonlineparts.com/jeep-wr...ke-p-6517.html

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Oh and I forgot to post a small addition I made to Wanda a week or so ago. Added the Grabars Front and Rear so the wife could get in and out a little easier.



One thing I kept hearing online was how bad these were to install and how the screws could fall down into the trim.

So to alleviate that from happening to me I took precautions. Took so fishing line from my tackle box and tied a Fisherman's Knot into a Loop. Loosened the screw on the bottom until it was about halfway out of the frame. Slid the knot onto the screw and pulled the fishing line taught. Once it was taught on the screw, I continued to ratchet the screw out of the frame. This in turn made the fishing line get tangled around the socket extension and held onto the screw very tightly as it unscrewed. Once completely loose it came out in one piece as shown below in the photo.





Here is the Finished Product. I'm very happy because the Wife Was Happy! LOL



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https://moparonlineparts.com/jeep-wr...ke-p-6517.html

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Hey Erik are those to replace all 4 or just the Fronts? Also I watched a video where it shows how easy the Dynatrac ProGrip Brake Kit is to install. See below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKl1P2L2K00
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Have you thought about adding hydraulic steering kit? Big shoes are tough to turn if you're wedged.
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Hey Erik are those to replace all 4 or just the Fronts? Also I watched a video where it shows how easy the Dynatrac ProGrip Brake Kit is to install. See below.
The kit I linked replaces the entire front brakes (rotors, pads, brackets, and most importantly, calipers!). The Dynatrac kit is so easy to install because it's just bolted parts (rotors, pads, and brackets). The whole point of the Mopar BBK is to have a higher volume of fluid available faster to the braking system with a larger master cylinder, larger center bore piston in the MC, and a beefier brake booster all feeding multi-piston front calipers. When you spend the ~$750 on the Mopar BBK for the front, you're prepping the brake system itself for higher performance front and rear. Nothing's stopping you from picking up a full rear-axle kit later on (such as a Wilwood system if you insist on throwing money at the Jeep)

One of the weak points on the Wrangler is the single-piston cast iron brake calipers. Simply, they don't have the volume for applying gripping force to the pad/rotor, and the single grip point necessitates the design wonkiness to compensate for balance issues, causing uneven pad wear. I've had plenty of experience with underpowered braking systems (see: 2002 Grand Prix GTP, for example), and when you nearly double the sprung weight (wheel and tire) by going to 37's on wider aftermarket wheels, it is only exacerbated further.

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That's a mighty fine plan you've laid out..

I'll be following your progress.

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Old 11-20-2017, 06:18 AM
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Took Wanda out for her first Trail Ride this Sunday. My Buddy and I drove out to Peters Mill Run and it was a blast. Passed a few groups of Jeeps while on the Trail and got to meet and talk with a few of them. Now I'm even more hooked. LOL Was very impressed with what she could do stock but I can't wait to start building.



She even got a little mud on her. LOL




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