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Old 09-18-2018, 01:25 PM
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Edelbrock e-Force 2014 JKU Willys

Just finishing one week driving with the new Supercharger under the hood. Thanks ALL SEASONS 4X4 in Broomfield, Colorado (303) 465-2170 for the excellent customer service and clean install.
Still working out a final tune but the results driving up and over the Continental Divide (Eisenhower Tunnel) this past weekend were very nice. The Jeep on 35's with 4:88 gears and auto trans was a slug before and now it loves 65-70 mph up and over the climbs. No more watching the coolant temp rise and the transmission heating up working way too hard for too long. Was it worth the $$$ spent, to each their own but I am happy with the decision so far. Gearing is still a concern would probably prefer 4:56, but moving to 37"s in the near future may help. More pics to follow...

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Just finishing one week driving with the new Supercharger under the hood. Thanks ALL SEASONS 4X4 in Broomfield, Colorado (303) 465-2170 for the excellent customer service and clean install.
Still working out a final tune but the results driving up and over the Continental Divide (Eisenhower Tunnel) this past weekend were very nice. The Jeep on 35's with 4:88 gears and auto trans was a slug before and now it loves 65-70 mph up and over the climbs. No more watching the coolant temp rise and the transmission heating up working way too hard for too long. Was it worth the $$$ spent, to each their own but I am happy with the decision so far. Gearing is still a concern would probably prefer 4:56, but moving to 37"s in the near future may help. More pics to follow...
Good to hear you are happy with this! More power is on my list for future mods.

I would love to hear more details, why Edelbrock, what tuner are they using, how's the day to day driving, gas mileage, shift points, etc.? Nice to hear you crushing up and over Eisenhower Tunnel, that's a great test


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Chose Edelbrock due to name, reputation, and recommended by Bob at All Seasons 4x4. Clean install, access to oil changes, and spark plugs / coil packs. Edelbrock customer service has been great and we are working together to get the kinks worked out. I want every possible gain I can get for the money spent and they know that. I am running a Red Rock CAI and Edelbrock would prefer stock intake with their high flow filter, but air here in Colorado can be tricky (elevation) changes can be extreme, finding a tune that fits a wide range of air intake will be tricky. They are using the SCT tuner I believe. I had to replace my PCM module as I had previously flashed with Superchips tuner after regearing. Sent PCM and TCM to Edelbrock overnight and they programmed initial tune and sent back overnight for install. Shift points are much better than before the install, honestly needs more from the low end 1500-2500 rpm, trying to widen the power band with tuning. Averaging 15.6 to 16.5 MPG with the first fill up after install. Will continue to post updates as we go.
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Chose Edelbrock due to name, reputation, and recommended by Bob at All Seasons 4x4. Clean install, access to oil changes, and spark plugs / coil packs. Edelbrock customer service has been great and we are working together to get the kinks worked out. I want every possible gain I can get for the money spent and they know that. I am running a Red Rock CAI and Edelbrock would prefer stock intake with their high flow filter, but air here in Colorado can be tricky (elevation) changes can be extreme, finding a tune that fits a wide range of air intake will be tricky. They are using the SCT tuner I believe. I had to replace my PCM module as I had previously flashed with Superchips tuner after regearing. Sent PCM and TCM to Edelbrock overnight and they programmed initial tune and sent back overnight for install. Shift points are much better than before the install, honestly needs more from the low end 1500-2500 rpm, trying to widen the power band with tuning. Averaging 15.6 to 16.5 MPG with the first fill up after install. Will continue to post updates as we go.
Thanks, this is hugely helpful! Edelbrock is on my short list for the reason you stated. Having the installer vouch for them means everything.

Any negatives so far? What was your initial impression when you first drove it? Looking forward to hearing more. Sorry to keep pestering you with questions, so little real word experience regarding supercharging a Jeep.


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Congrats, sounds awesome! I was wondering if 4.88s were too much for blower/35s. I would have guessed 4.56, but didn't know with elevation changes & altitude by you. Edelbrock is awesome & sounds like you have a great shop. Tuning is key!

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Feeling let down...

3 weeks driving with the new supercharger, this thing is a dog in town!!! No matter how I drive it the fuel MPG is worse than stock by 2-3 MPG. Edelbrock has been awful to deal with, their responses to tech questions have been slow and vague.
Edelbrock stated they believed we had an air intake leak in the system. So we did a "smoker test" and found no leaks. Still having shift point issues and the by-pass valve is leaking under low throttle. Customer service at Edelbrock gets a 1 star rating at best.
Need a tune in the worst way! Fixed one problem - power and heat when under a load ( long climbs up hills) but created way to many more to be comfortable with. Starting to wish I had gone with another product.


Bob at All Seasons 4x4 has been the bright spot in this journey. He is still working with me to resolve the issues and keep me happy but I am leaving to go hunting for the next two weeks and will give another update when I get back.
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3 weeks driving with the new supercharger, this thing is a dog in town!!! No matter how I drive it the fuel MPG is worse than stock by 2-3 MPG. Edelbrock has been awful to deal with, their responses to tech questions have been slow and vague.
Edelbrock stated they believed we had an air intake leak in the system. So we did a "smoker test" and found no leaks. Still having shift point issues and the by-pass valve is leaking under low throttle. Customer service at Edelbrock gets a 1 star rating at best.
Need a tune in the worst way! Fixed one problem - power and heat when under a load ( long climbs up hills) but created way to many more to be comfortable with. Starting to wish I had gone with another product.


Bob at All Seasons 4x4 has been the bright spot in this journey. He is still working with me to resolve the issues and keep me happy but I am leaving to go hunting for the next two weeks and will give another update when I get back.
Thanks for the honest update! I hope you get the issues resolved soon.

I keep reading things like this, and it has me holding off on my decision. Please keep us updated, pretty sure I'm not the only one looking at power options.


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I'm with Steven. Seriously considering some options, but concerned with some of the reports and long term engine implications.
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I'm looking ProCharger products as well! Thanks for the post Derek.


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All Season 4x4 to the rescue!!

So I think we may have found the problem. The initial program from Edelbrock was indicating an intake leak. The by-pass safety valve was sticking open and caused the PCM to "learn" the fuel trim was to low so it self adjusted and was running way too rich. After fixing the safety valve the system needed to be reset to the original tune. Brian at All Season's returned the PCM to factory settings and then worked the Edelbrock provided tune back in. The difference was noticed immediately. One quick drive and the fuel efficiency went back up to 17.6MPG. The shift points are much smoother and the throttle response at lower RPM's is significantly better. I am going to drive the Mountains for my deer hunting trip this next week and we will re-assess the tune when I get back. We will also be getting to a dyno in the near future to see what kind of numbers as far as HP and Torque it is producing. Stay tuned!!!
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So I think we may have found the problem. The initial program from Edelbrock was indicating an intake leak. The by-pass safety valve was sticking open and caused the PCM to "learn" the fuel trim was to low so it self adjusted and was running way too rich. After fixing the safety valve the system needed to be reset to the original tune. Brian at All Season's returned the PCM to factory settings and then worked the Edelbrock provided tune back in. The difference was noticed immediately. One quick drive and the fuel efficiency went back up to 17.6MPG. The shift points are much smoother and the throttle response at lower RPM's is significantly better. I am going to drive the Mountains for my deer hunting trip this next week and we will re-assess the tune when I get back. We will also be getting to a dyno in the near future to see what kind of numbers as far as HP and Torque it is producing. Stay tuned!!!
Nice, I'm glad you're making progress.

Have a safe hunting trip. Looking forward to hearing more.



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Thank you for the updates! This is very helpful.

I am looking at power options too! My previous jeep was a SRT8. So the power difference is crazy. I certainly don't expect that type of power, but I need something more.

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