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Old 04-28-2018, 10:58 PM
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So this happened today...again.
I was in Moab for a couple of days for EJS and the left front lower shock mount broke on the first trail. A quick repair at Moab outpost, and I was on the trail the next day.
Today, I was out goofing around, on a dirt road, that was a little bumpy, and it snapped again.
Monday, it goes in for new front lower shock mounts. Updates coming.

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So this happened today...again.
I was in Moab for a couple of days for EJS and the left front lower shock mount broke on the first trail. A quick repair at Moab outpost, and I was on the trail the next day.
Today, I was out goofing around, on a dirt road, that was a little bumpy, and it snapped again.
Monday, it goes in for new front lower shock mounts. Updates coming.
Wow brother! Are the shock mount tabs on the axle shearing off?


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If you look at the lower mount, it is a post that extends out for the lower shock mount. It’s 5 or 6 inches long. I think that, with the Metal Cloak offset brackets, it probably puts a significant load on the bracket, above what a standard tab would have. The curious thing is both of them broke in the same type of environment. They were Rocky roads, but not any type of rock crawling, though both had rock crawling after the lower mount broke.
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I guess I need to make a few updates in this thread.
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So, hereís the deal. I am horrible on updates. I donít do the photo masterpiece stuff like @Buildit and so, I just post my poorly composed pictures taken with my cell phone.

I am rid of the Hard Rock bumpers on both ends, now, a few months ago I went to a company that is local to me and bought their Venom Winch front bumper. I also included a couple of Baja Designs lights with it. I like the small form factor of the bumper. I like that it is light, I like that it is not the typical sort of design, but just a little different. There is one small problem with the bumper, no recivery points. Addictive is used to building bumpers for desert runners, like Raptors and large pickups. Not for vehicles that crawl rocks and have more frequent potential for being stuck.

My solution was to take it to my favorite fab shop, LetzRoll off-road, and they figured up a simple, but elegant solution, welding the eyes for D-rings on the end of the frame horns. Simple, but effective.
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I'm not seeing it AZ???



Go wash the Jeep, borrow the neighbor's camera, and take a picture so I can see what you did. Geeze....
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Poor Helga got a booboo.
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Poor Helga got a booboo.
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So, Helga went up this obstacle. I was on a trip to Moab with a friend, and met up with some of his good friends that became my new friends. We were running Flat Iron Mesa in Moab, and this obstacle was in front of us. If you look, there is a rock jutting out, and my spotter put me a little close to it.
I was actually impressed that the Poison spider Aluminum fenders didn’t crumple. Scraped paint, and that was it. I think I am going to repaint the tube portion on all the fenders. I have about a week and a half before my next off road adventure in Sand Hollow.
By the way, that is not me or Helga in the video. Someone not a part of the group got a money shot, but never forwarded it to me. I’m kind of bummed about it. I had both wheels off the ground coming over the top.
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Helga says hi.
Nice! How was it dropping down into the rut coming down off of that? Looks like it could be a little tippy?



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I was amazed. I’ll send you a video, but in essence, it was really stable. There were some jeeps that were way more off camber than me, with no tipping.
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I was amazed. I’ll send you a video, but in essence, it was really stable. There were some jeeps that were way more off camber than me, with no tipping.
The video...wow! Amazing what a Jeep is capable of. I kept saying, at any point, the Jeep rolls into the rut. Not so. Well done Amigo!

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Here you go. I had to teach myself how to do YouTube, again. The struggle is real.
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https://youtu.be/xq603LUQA_Y

Here you go. I had to teach myself how to do YouTube, again. The struggle is real.
All too real, thanks!

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So, you know that last picture I posted? The video and the one of Helga waving hi? That trail was not super kind to my poor little Helga. I was driving up a hill and was climbing a small Little Rock, about 3 feet with an undercut, and I heard a metallic clink. I thought to myself, that was weird. I looked under and gave her a belly scratch, and looked at the axles, and the front CV joint on the drive shaft, because I could not easily see the back with the skid plates, and did not notice anyth8ng. So, I continued playing for the day.
I drove home that night, and experienced nothing strange. I was thinking, cool, nothing broken this trip.
About a week later, I was driving on the freeway, to pick up my daughter at the airport. Thatís always great because she came home for the weekend from school. On the freeway, I noticed a little vibration. Then I got a noise. Strange. I got home, jacked up the front of the Jeep, and checked the ball joints, checked the axles, I even jacked up the front of the Jeep and checked the unit bearings. Evryth8ng seemed tight. Seemed...
I decided that it could only be the unit bearings, so I replaced them. By the way, with an impact, and the right tools, it takes about twenty minutes a side, from wheel off, to wheel on.
I took it on a test ride, and shiver me timbers, I hear the same stinking vibration and noise. I drove up the street, around th round about in our neighborhood and home. I was in front of my wheeling buddies house, which is about fifty yards from my house. I decided since I was straight, and level, I would see what happened in four wheel drive. I dropped the transfer case into four hi, and suddenly the noises I heard became serious. You know, like that time your wife looks at you and you realize you did something really stupid type of serious. If youíre married, you know what I am talking about, since I was literally 100 feet from my house, and I had the Raptor at home, I pulled the Jeep into the garage and parked it.
The next morning, I went to my yard and got the car trailer to take the Jeep the two miles to my preferred shop. That was probably one of the smarter things I have done on the Jeep. Turns out the driveshaft was toast. Not just a little toast, but, dang, Iím ready to take out the transfer case done. Likely, if I had decided to drive to the shop, I would be waiting on an Atlas, or something.
Instead, we improved the driveshaft, courtesy of Adams. I also did some minor axle improvements. So, in the front I put in RCVís with Reid Knuckles, along with new ball joints, because, 43,000 miles of not too insignificant wheeling and daily driving, on 35ís and 37ís, it was time, because the stock ball joints owed me nothing. In the back, I had G2 gold axles put in. Iím thinking that the next upgrade may be a hius8ng or two, but this is enough for right now.
First picture is the trail I was on. That is not the worst part of the trail. The other two are records of my mods.
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So, you know that last picture I posted? The video and the one of Helga waving hi? That trail was not super kind to my poor little Helga. I was driving up a hill and was climbing a small Little Rock, about 3 feet with an undercut, and I heard a metallic clink. I thought to myself, that was weird. I looked under and gave her a belly scratch, and looked at the axles, and the front CV joint on the drive shaft, because I could not easily see the back with the skid plates, and did not notice anyth8ng. So, I continued playing for the day.
I drove home that night, and experienced nothing strange. I was thinking, cool, nothing broken this trip.
About a week later, I was driving on the freeway, to pick up my daughter at the airport. Thatís always great because she came home for the weekend from school. On the freeway, I noticed a little vibration. Then I got a noise. Strange. I got home, jacked up the front of the Jeep, and checked the ball joints, checked the axles, I even jacked up the front of the Jeep and checked the unit bearings. Evryth8ng seemed tight. Seemed...
I decided that it could only be the unit bearings, so I replaced them. By the way, with an impact, and the right tools, it takes about twenty minutes a side, from wheel off, to wheel on.
I took it on a test ride, and shiver me timbers, I hear the same stinking vibration and noise. I drove up the street, around th round about in our neighborhood and home. I was in front of my wheeling buddies house, which is about fifty yards from my house. I decided since I was straight, and level, I would see what happened in four wheel drive. I dropped the transfer case into four hi, and suddenly the noises I heard became serious. You know, like that time your wife looks at you and you realize you did something really stupid type of serious. If youíre married, you know what I am talking about, since I was literally 100 feet from my house, and I had the Raptor at home, I pulled the Jeep into the garage and parked it.
The next morning, I went to my yard and got the car trailer to take the Jeep the two miles to my preferred shop. That was probably one of the smarter things I have done on the Jeep. Turns out the driveshaft was toast. Not just a little toast, but, dang, Iím ready to take out the transfer case done. Likely, if I had decided to drive to the shop, I would be waiting on an Atlas, or something.
Instead, we improved the driveshaft, courtesy of Adams. I also did some minor axle improvements. So, in the front I put in RCVís with Reid Knuckles, along with new ball joints, because, 43,000 miles of not too insignificant wheeling and daily driving, on 35ís and 37ís, it was time, because the stock ball joints owed me nothing. In the back, I had G2 gold axles put in. Iím thinking that the next upgrade may be a hius8ng or two, but this is enough for right now.
First picture is the trail I was on. That is not the worst part of the trail. The other two are records of my mods.
Yes...I'm married and know that look

You lucked out you weren't rolling down the freeway with the old driveshaft, that could have been scary.

RCV's, Reid Knuckles, Adam driveshaft and new upgraded rear axle shafts...you added some serious strength for the trails! Nice work Amigo



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You have both wheeled with me, and know how hard I push stuff. In reality, it is kind of amazing that the parts didn’t fail sooner. Today I had to do a garage alignment. Seems that I was about a half inch off. Helga drives really squirrelly when the alignment is off that far. It was driving me nuts. It’s all better now. Front parts are all good. I did a little trimming and hammering on the corners so that I could get the articulation that was rub inhibited. I will have to take it to my test area that is about a block from my house to see how it works tomorrow. I jacked up the rear corner all the way with my floor jack, and was not even close to the bumpstops. Fortunately, I even work even less on Wednesday’s than I do the other days.
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You have both wheeled with me, and know how hard I push stuff. In reality, it is kind of amazing that the parts didn’t fail sooner. Today I had to do a garage alignment. Seems that I was about a half inch off. Helga drives really squirrelly when the alignment is off that far. It was driving me nuts. It’s all better now. Front parts are all good. I did a little trimming and hammering on the corners so that I could get the articulation that was rub inhibited. I will have to take it to my test area that is about a block from my house to see how it works tomorrow. I jacked up the rear corner all the way with my floor jack, and was not even close to the bumpstops. Fortunately, I even work even less on Wednesday’s than I do the other days.
I was thinking about your post(s), and how informative those have been regarding the performance of the stock parts you were running.

You do wheel your Jeep hard, on some really tough trails, on 37's. Your stock parts gave you some pretty good service, and helps us/me to bench mark those!

You replaced your front driveshaft correct? Did you go 1310 or 1350? Are you still running the stock rear? I'll be upgrading my rear axle shafts before my next Moab trip after reading your report. Thanks Scooter, keep the posts coming!


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I am running the Extreme 1310 drive shaft from Adams. I did a little research and found out that the 1310 joints have more flex than the 1350 joints, probably due to size in the joints. On the back, I have the stock drive shaft, for now.
Like I said, I am surprised at how well they lasted, given the dire reviews so many gave. So far Helga has been to Moab 7 times and she has been to Sand Hollow four times. Of course, then there was the time I followed Moab with a run to Hole in the Rock with @u_konreaper , which is not a soft trail. The next trip is Sand Hollow for Winter Jam, which is a great event. Then of course, there is the Arizona wheeling I do. I seldom do a trail rated below a five or six, on the Moab scale, and usually hang around the 7 or 8 range. That is telling on how hard I have run. I usually wil take her on a trailer, but sometimes, it’s a run without my wife, and I’ll just drive Helga. I like reliable, and well maintained.
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I am running the Extreme 1310 drive shaft from Adams. I did a little research and found out that the 1310 joints have more flex than the 1350 joints, probably due to size in the joints. On the back, I have the stock drive shaft, for now.
Like I said, I am surprised at how well they lasted, given the dire reviews so many gave. So far Helga has been to Moab 7 times and she has been to Sand Hollow four times. Of course, then there was the time I followed Moab with a run to Hole in the Rock with @u_konreaper , which is not a soft trail. The next trip is Sand Hollow for Winter Jam, which is a great event. Then of course, there is the Arizona wheeling I do. I seldom do a trail rated below a five or six, on the Moab scale, and usually hang around the 7 or 8 range. That is telling on how hard I have run. I usually wil take her on a trailer, but sometimes, itís a run without my wife, and Iíll just drive Helga. I like reliable, and well maintained.
I was told the same from the boys at Northridge when I was shopping a new front driveshaft. The sealed 1310 was what they all run and love. The 1310's will give more flex as you state. The 1350 was only recommended for heavy duty (40's,1 tons, V-8 power).

There's a good chance myself and Jason may be at Winter Jam/Sand Hollow this year. I'll keep you updated on that as I know more.


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You better reserve your trails. They are going quick. The entire Sand Hollow area is closed for the event to anyone but registered vehicles, which means no side by sides, etc. in theory. I have a friend that I am staying with that has a home in Hurricane, but the wind ham is nice, and with a little talking, cheap. I think I paid $69 a night last year, which is funny because when I first made the reservation it was $119. I think the desk clerk liked me.
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I am running the Extreme 1310 drive shaft from Adams. I did a little research and found out that the 1310 joints have more flex than the 1350 joints, probably due to size in the joints. On the back, I have the stock drive shaft, for now.
Like I said, I am surprised at how well they lasted, given the dire reviews so many gave. So far Helga has been to Moab 7 times and she has been to Sand Hollow four times. Of course, then there was the time I followed Moab with a run to Hole in the Rock with @u_konreaper , which is not a soft trail. The next trip is Sand Hollow for Winter Jam, which is a great event. Then of course, there is the Arizona wheeling I do. I seldom do a trail rated below a five or six, on the Moab scale, and usually hang around the 7 or 8 range. That is telling on how hard I have run. I usually wil take her on a trailer, but sometimes, itís a run without my wife, and Iíll just drive Helga. I like reliable, and well maintained.


Yeah that hole in the rock trail was rough. Remember how well marked it was at night?! That made me really want so wide illumination, but I still havenít taken that on.

Was your boot torn at all on the front axle?


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I bought my Jeep, a week later the lift and boot were installed, fenders went on the following day. The next week I was in Moab on Flat Iron Mesa. I had not even driven a thousand miles before it was toast. The shaft lasted another 42,000 miles. It wasn’t the slip shaft that failed.
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Good to hear. I didnít think it would toast itself as soon as the boot tore, but I knew youíd have some good experience!


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I decided that it could only be the unit bearings, so I replaced them. By the way, with an impact, and the right tools, it takes about twenty minutes a side, from wheel off, to wheel on.
Hahaha, you should try it in a salt/rust state. I'm really surprised I didn't break one of those bolts when I did mine.

Glad you got it sorted out.
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Hahaha, you should try it in a salt/rust state. I'm really surprised I didn't break one of those bolts when I did mine.

Glad you got it sorted out.
So true. As much rust as there was on the old bearings, salt zones are probably insane with how hard they are to remove.
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Helga is showing some leg. Time to get ready for EJS.
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