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Old 12-04-2017, 04:30 PM
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Nice! Thatís what mine looked like last year this is it now
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7 Mile Rim-Part 2

Ok, so I left off here, with us camping under the stars on the trail.




It had been a while since I had camped out, and this really sparked a desire to be doing this more often. We start the next day up early, before the sunrise to take in the beauty of Moab in whole new light...



...up before sunrise, campfire started, taking in the rising sun and a brand new day...






I had been in contact with AzScooter, hoping to meet up with him while in Moab. He was on his way to rendezvous with u_konreaper heading down to Bluff for their scout project. We had been in touch with each other the night we were camping out. He was going to run 7 Mile Rim the next day and see if he could catch up to us somewhere out on the trail. I shot him a text early in the day to check on his progress. He was on 7 Mile Rim, but had bent a rim and lost air in the tire. After texting him to see if needed any help, he tells no, he is handling the repair himself. It turns out he does handle this repair by taking a small sledge hammer to beat the rim into enough roundness to get the tire to seat the bead. We have no way of knowing each others exact location, so we decide we would get back on the trail. Maybe we would have an opportunity to meet another time, as Scott will soon heading off to meet u_konreaper. There's always next year I tell myself.


We get back on the trail...




We were working on a time-lapse shot of Rubi covering some trail. This had me driving Rubi roughly a half a mile down the trail while my buddy Jason got the video shot. I had pulled off the trail waiting for him to collect the camera gear and hike to where I was. As I'm sitting there on the trail, reading the Wells' book and checking my maps, I look at my rear view mirror and recognize a Jeep I've seen before. Out of one of the side trails comes AzScooter in his rig Helga...no way!!! We finally get a chance to meet. This is awesome...






After our meet and greet, we decide to hit the trail. I follow Scott, as I know he has a lot more experience wheeling than I do. I figure watching him work his rig on the trail, I can learn a lot. One of the features of this section of 7 Mile is it gets pretty tippy in places. This definitely gets your attention...




Scott really knows how to wheel, after following him through some really tough, tricky sections, we stop to check my maps...



It turns out, we had just wheeled "Wipe Out Hill"...wow! I'm kind of glad I didn't know it when I was following Scott. I've seen a few videos of roll-overs on this section. Wipe Out featured some really big rock face climbs while having some serious camber that wants to roll you off the obstacle. In this pic, we are out checking the trail ahead, and Scott is talking about when and where he is using his lockers, etc.. In a short time wheeling with him, I gain some solid trail wheeling knowledge.


I'm going to stop here. Next up, Scott and I finish the trail, and I want to share more about his air set-up and trail repairs. More to come, stay tuned




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I look at this and think, dang my hair is gray...

Wipe out hill is easy. You get so puckered up, there is no way you could roll over.
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I look at this and think, dang my hair is gray...

Wipe out hill is easy. You get so puckered up, there is no way you could roll over.
Lol, that's your experience talking! I hope we get a chance to do this again together...I could learn a lot wheeling with you


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great photos as always, itīis really cool that you guys got to meet up and do some trails together two thumbs up!
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Lol, that's your experience talking! I hope we get a chance to do this again together...I could learn a lot wheeling with you


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Well, I know this guy who has a place in Arizona that has a lot of wheeling nearby.
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Well, I know this guy who has a place in Arizona that has a lot of wheeling nearby.
Haha...I know! I need to get Rubi out there one day!


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7 Mile Rim-Part 3

Alright Amigos, time to finish up this trail run. This trail provided an over night camping experience that was off the charts, as well as a "chance" meeting with my buddy Scott (AzScooter).


Getting an opportunity to wheel with Scott was great for me. He has a lot more experience on the trails than I do. Getting through Wipe Out Hill and Burnt Toast gave me a chance to talk briefly with him about technique. Things like when was he using his lockers, front, rear or both. It turns out, he was not using them on this trail, 4-Lo was enough. I was probably relying to much on being locked, he clearly knew how to get more out of his rig.

Another area of wheeling that Scott got me thinking about was my ability to make repairs while on the trail. Remember he bent a rim earlier in the day and lost the bead on the tire, and did the repairs himself. This included being able to jack up his Jeep, remove the tire/wheel, and use a small sledge to beat the rim enough to get the tire to seat the bead. I knew I needed to add onboard air, tools for trail side repairs, etc. I'll add thoughts on this in another post. For now, let's get back to 7 Mile Rim.



After Wipe Out Hill section, the trail throws several good sized rock shelves at you. After descending a few of these, we stopped to check that damaged right rear tire. It needs some more air...








This will give me a chance to show you what Scott is running for his onboard air set up. He is using one of the smaller Viar units, mounted in the engine bay...














Having a connection at the rear wheel well worked great. Open the cargo door, grab the hose, and he was airing up in seconds. Scott also carries a nice selection of tools in roll up tool bag. He prefers to travel with an electric impact wrench as well.


Here's a close shot of me coming off one of those shelves. My static clearance to the bottom of my tow hooks is 24.5" at the rear.


I don't mind landing on the tow hooks, as they are tied into the frame and keep me off of the rear bumper. This is why I installed the AFE Hi-Tuck exhaust. My previous system would be toast on this trail. I will mention, I am super happy with the AFE after putting it through it's paces out here. Beautiful tone on and off road, plenty of clearance.


After you get through the steps, the trail runs out into the sands...



...and out past the majestic Defiance Towers...












The last interesting section runs you through several small creeks before putting you back on a dusty, fairly fast section that leads you back to the highway...




This trail was a blast! As I mentioned, getting a chance to finally meet Scott and wheel with him was awesome. It also highlighted areas in my build that I want to improve upon. Those include onboard air, tools, first aid kit, communication, and more skids. Sounds like that should keep me busy over the coming winter. Stay tuned, this journey continues...



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Great write up. Iím glad I made the effort to get up there to meet you. If you donít mind, I may make a post that shows my tool bag, and what all I carry. Be warned, as you know Steven, it is a bit excessive. Okay, a lot excessive, but I donít worry about any trail repairs.
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Greta write up. Iím glad I made the effort to get up there to meet you. If you donít mind, I may make a post that shows my tool bag, and what all I carry. Be warned, as you know Steven, it is a bit excessive. Okay, a lot excessive, but I donít worry about any trail repairs.
Thanks Scott! I think detailing what tools you carry would make a great post. I feel like that sort of thing gets pulled together out of personal experience, and could be very helpful to others.

I remember really liking your rollup tool bag, who made that?

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I got it from Blue Ridge Overland Gear. https://www.blueridgeoverlandgear.co...g-p/21tb-l.htm
I will caution that this is not a cheap bag, but dang is it well made. I think it is worth the $126.00 it cost, because I donít ever anticipate the need to replace it. I like it because I am able to keep everything organized and easily accessible. I use the tools in the bag a lot.
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Man, I am JEALOUS! That is some awesome terrain and endless opportunities for one incredible picture after the next. Listen... I'm not asking you to stop doing these wheeling trips but can you stop posting the pictures. It's killing me!

@AzScooter I am going to pick up one of those bags. I believe in buying quality items that last forever and this looks perfect for some tool storage in my jeep. I carry a bunch of tools/parts/equipment when i wheel and listening to rattling tools behind me for hours is something that drives me nuts. This looks like it would solve a lot of the noise.
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I got it from Blue Ridge Overland Gear. https://www.blueridgeoverlandgear.co...g-p/21tb-l.htm
I will caution that this is not a cheap bag, but dang is it well made. I think it is worth the $126.00 it cost, because I donít ever anticipate the need to replace it. I like it because I am able to keep everything organized and easily accessible. I use the tools in the bag a lot.
That's the one, thanks Scott I remember looking at it and thinking, boy is that well made! You could really load it up heavy and it's going to stay together.


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Man, I am JEALOUS! That is some awesome terrain and endless opportunities for one incredible picture after the next. Listen... I'm not asking you to stop doing these wheeling trips but can you stop posting the pictures. It's killing me!


Moab is unlike anything I've seen or experienced before...get your butt out there with that incredible machine you're building!
@AzScooter I am going to pick up one of those bags. I believe in buying quality items that last forever and this looks perfect for some tool storage in my jeep. I carry a bunch of tools/parts/equipment when i wheel and listening to rattling tools behind me for hours is something that drives me nuts. This looks like it would solve a lot of the noise.
Sure..........I'll stop.........let me think about that............ok, NO!

This bag looked like the real deal, I'm ordering one as well. Endorsed by AzScooter....good enough for me



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Some amazing photos. Thank you for sharing.

And all the ideas I am collecting from this thread are priceless. (well, implementing them will not be, lol)
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Some amazing photos. Thank you for sharing.

And all the ideas I am collecting from this thread are priceless. (well, implementing them will not be, lol)
Thanks wachuko!

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I see you still had your "beaver tail" step in place. I really liked that piece of equipment as it saved my bumper a few times on some drop offs. I've used it a few times as a tow point as well. In fact most recently in my backyard trying to come over some slippery, snowy rocks that ended up high centering me. I had tow hooks and d rings, but the guy helping out just had a receiver. A quick swap from my rig to his and we were in business. Other than having already installed my winch before these shenanigans, the only other piece of equipment I wish I'd had is a couple soft shackles like @AzScooter . Those are so slick and avoid the dreaded projectile risk the metal shackles provide.

Thanks for another great post. You inspire me to learn more about my camera and not just the ol iPhone shots. I need to get out again!!!!
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I see you still had your "beaver tail" step in place. I really liked that piece of equipment as it saved my bumper a few times on some drop offs. I've used it a few times as a tow point as well. In fact most recently in my backyard trying to come over some slippery, snowy rocks that ended up high centering me. I had tow hooks and d rings, but the guy helping out just had a receiver. A quick swap from my rig to his and we were in business. Other than having already installed my winch before these shenanigans, the only other piece of equipment I wish I'd had is a couple soft shackles like @AzScooter . Those are so slick and avoid the dreaded projectile risk the metal shackles provide.

Thanks for another great post. You inspire me to learn more about my camera and not just the ol iPhone shots. I need to get out again!!!!
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Yes, still running the Beaver Tail. It does provide a good landing point, saving the bumper from making contact. Between that and the factory tow hooks that I use to make contact when coming off an obstacle. I can keep my Hard Rock rear bumper which I really like. The beaver tail is also a good step for getting up to the back of the roof rack when the cargo door is open.

I love these thread conversations! You've got me looking into the soft shackles. This shared knowledge is so helpful. I'm going to pick up a couple of them.

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I love these thread conversations! You've got me looking into the soft shackles. This shared knowledge is so helpful. I'm going to pick up a couple of them.

Thanks for your input Nate, really appreciate it



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The soft shackles are really cool. I do have the steel shackles, and too many nylon straps, but the shackles are just awesome, and much safer. In conjunction with a Bubba Rope, they were awesome. I do have an eye for a shackles on my bumper, and the soft shackles does not fit through the eye, so I do use a d ring there. I like the d-rings with a hair pin clip, instead of a screw pin, but that is personal preference.
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The soft shackles are really cool. I do have the steel shackles, and too many nylon straps, but the shackles are just awesome, and much safer. In conjunction with a Bubba Rope, they were awesome. I do have an eye for a shackles on my bumper, and the soft shackles does not fit through the eye, so I do use a d ring there. I like the d-rings with a hair pin clip, instead of a screw pin, but that is personal preference.


I do like that Bubba rope a lot. I've seen those elastic ropes do things the nylon traditional straps just can't do. I think there's a smoother pull with it. Not to keep bringing up @AzScooter , but his rig was impressive. Those MC skids were so complete. I may or may not have dropped a few things next to his Jeep to have a reason to keep looking under it. That inspired me to order the MC skids myself. Honestly I also like the look of the gold zinc under my rig.

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There is a lot of confidence that comes from knowing you can slide over them with no mechanical damage. You can tell mine have been earning their keep.
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The soft shackles are really cool. I do have the steel shackles, and too many nylon straps, but the shackles are just awesome, and much safer. In conjunction with a Bubba Rope, they were awesome. I do have an eye for a shackles on my bumper, and the soft shackles does not fit through the eye, so I do use a d ring there. I like the d-rings with a hair pin clip, instead of a screw pin, but that is personal preference.
@AzScooter , which soft shackle are you using?


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I do like that Bubba rope a lot. I've seen those elastic ropes do things the nylon traditional straps just can't do. I think there's a smoother pull with it. Not to keep bringing up @AzScooter , but his rig was impressive. Those MC skids were so complete. I may or may not have dropped a few things next to his Jeep to have a reason to keep looking under it. That inspired me to order the MC skids myself. Honestly I also like the look of the gold zinc under my rig.

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You can bring up/reference AzScooter as much as you like...he knows what he's doing, any respect what he has to say!

I'll complete my full skids this spring. I was on the stock gas tank skid more than once this trip, and it's not that strong. I'll finish mine out with Rock Hard 4x4 aluminum skids.


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I got the Gator Jaws from Bubba Rope. I picked them up at the last EJS. https://www.bubbarope.com/gator-jaws-synthetic-shackles
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Steven i have a question

what program do you use to process your photos? i have always liked you shots but i think that the color in this trip photos are really great!
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Steven i have a question

what program do you use to process your photos? i have always liked you shots but i think that the color in this trip photos are really great!
Hi Fernando! It's cool you can see the difference in the pics. I try to shoot most of my shots with my Nikon DX3 and Nikor lenses. Some of what you see is actually taken with my iPhone.

I use Adobe Lightroom to process in.



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