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Old 01-31-2018, 01:49 PM
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Making some changes

I've been running 37's for a couple of years now. I've done the Rubicon and Moab on them but it's time to change things up a bit. In the next couple of months I'll be adding a SpynTec hub conversion to my PR44 up front, which will also require purchasing new beadlocks, trussing the rear which already has chromoly shafts, and moving from a 3.5" to 4.5" MC lift. I'm also changing the shocks out to Fox racing shocks with adjustable reservoirs. All this is to move from my current 37's to my new 40" Maxxis Raxr's. Due to the size of the tire some tub trimming will be involved and the AEV rear bumper with water tanks will be removed in favor of a EVO rear fascia bumper so I might have a few takeoffs laying around if anyone is interested. I'm sure there are some other things I'm forgetting but I'll add to the thread as needed. Here's a couple pic of the jeep in its current state.

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I've been running 37's for a couple of years now. I've done the Rubicon and Moab on them but it's time to change things up a bit. In the next couple of months I'll be adding a SpynTec hub conversion to my PR44 up front, which will also require purchasing new beadlocks, trussing the rear which already has chromoly shafts, and moving from a 3.5" to 4.5" MC lift. I'm also changing the shocks out to Fox racing shocks with adjustable reservoirs. All this is to move from my current 37's to my new 40" Maxxis Raxr's. Due to the size of the tire some tub trimming will be involved and the AEV rear bumper with water tanks will be removed in favor of a EVO rear fascia bumper so I might have a few takeoffs laying around if anyone is interested. I'm sure there are some other things I'm forgetting but I'll add to the thread as needed. Here's a couple pic of the jeep in its current state.

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Very nice rig The changes are exciting, I'll keep an eye on your thread. What gears will you run for the 40's?



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Thanks, Im sticking with my 4.56 gears for now. After I run the setup a bit Ill have a better idea what I want to do.
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Looks like I'll be adding a Rock Krawler tie rod and drag link to the build as well as a Fox ATS stabilizer. We'll also be installing a Teraflex big brake kit.
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Im not a Rock Krawler guy. You will love the Stabilizer and Big Brake kit. As steady as my jeep was without a stabilizeer, the stabiizer made it that much better
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Im not a Rock Krawler guy. You will love the Stabilizer and Big Brake kit. As steady as my jeep was without a stabilizeer, the stabiizer made it that much better
That's good to hear since that stabilizer was pretty pricey. There are several in my group running the Rock Krawler tie rod drag link combination and they swear by them. I guess we'll see. Thanks
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Nice as it sits, can't even imagine how badass it will be once it's all done!
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Nice as it sits, can't even imagine how badass it will be once it's all done!
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I'll be watching out for the new updates. Been thinking about moving to 40's as well but hesitant because can not find spare budget for D60s at the moment. For sure post some pictures with 40s, so it will motivate me to top up my credit card limit

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I'll be watching out for the new updates. Been thinking about moving to 40's as well but hesitant because can not find spare budget for D60s at the moment. For sure post some pictures with 40s, so it will motivate me to top up my credit card limit

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It's in the shop now. I hear you on the budget, not doing the 60's yet. Adding Spyntec hub conversion on my PR44. I'm already running chromoly shafts all around but I'm having the rear trussed. I'll take it a little easy on the skinny pedal and when I break then that's going to force me to get the 60's.
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It's in the shop now. I hear you on the budget, not doing the 60's yet. Adding Spyntec hub conversion on my PR44. I'm already running chromoly shafts all around but I'm having the rear trussed. I'll take it a little easy on the skinny pedal and when I break then that's going to force me to get the 60's.
I have very similar build- PR44, chromolys all around, lockers, regeared to 4:88. Havent heard of that Spyntec hub lock before, would be nice to have for sure.

Who new i'd have ever considered 40's back when i was praising for 37". Had i known that, i would have gone straight to 60's. Might be cheaper to sell this Jeep and start from scratch cause everything i did was dialed for 37's. But if i can keep everything as is, and run 40's which many say no, then i would jump to 40's.

Anyway, i still have a year until my current Trail Grapplers wear out. Northridge4x4 has a sweet deal on 5 Nitto 40". I barely hold myself from pulling the trigger.

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Sorry, got an extra post in here somehow
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I have very similar build- PR44, chromolys all around, lockers, regeared to 4:88. Havent heard of that Spyntec hub lock before, would be nice to have for sure.

Who new i'd have ever considered 40's back when i was praising for 37". Had i known that, i would have gone straight to 60's. Might be cheaper to sell this Jeep and start from scratch cause everything i did was dialed for 37's. But if i can keep everything as is, and run 40's which many say no, then i would jump to 40's.

Anyway, i still have a year until my current Trail Grapplers wear out. Northridge4x4 has a sweet deal on 5 Nitto 40". I barely hold myself from pulling the trigger.

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There are 2 jeeps in my group running 40's on PR44's and both have done well so far. One has been running that way for around 2 years. I just want to last till next year then I'll change out the axles. I know what you mean about running 40's though. I had everyone trying to get me to go with the 60 when I did the 44 and I was like no, the 44 is all I'm going to need. Sure wish I'd done it now. Well at least I'm heading in that direction. I had to get new beadlocks for this build for the hub locks so at least my wheels will be ready for 60's.
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There are 2 jeeps in my group running 40's on PR44's and both have done well so far. One has been running that way for around 2 years. I just want to last till next year then I'll change out the axles. I know what you mean about running 40's though. I had everyone trying to get me to go with the 60 when I did the 44 and I was like no, the 44 is all I'm going to need. Sure wish I'd done it now. Well at least I'm heading in that direction. I had to get new beadlocks for this build for the hub locks so at least my wheels will be ready for 60's.
How much does it cost to do the hub locks? Just front axle, right?

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How much does it cost to do the hub locks? Just front axle, right?

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Yes, just the front. The parts cost was $1589.00. It's kinda hard to tell on the labor since I'm having multiple things done but it appears to be about $300.00.
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Update on the build process. As of today still on the rack. The rear is being
trussed.

IMG_0096 by Derek Hierholzer, on Flickr

Front MC 4.5 springs, fox shocks, tie rod, and drag link installed. Getting ready to install the locking hubs

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The 40's are waiting

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Because of the install of the locking hubs I had to get new bead locks that are 5 x 5.5

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And big break kit and other misc other parts waiting their turn for install

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If anyone interested I'm going to have a few take offs I'll be posting for sale in the parts forum such as 3.5 shocks and springs, 37" Maxxis Treps, bead locks, and more.

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So was there anything that prompted you to make the changes and step up? Or is it just to change the look?
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So was there anything that prompted you to make the changes and step up? Or is it just to change the look?
I wanted to install the locking hubs to eliminate front driveshaft rotation while running in 2wd. I think it will reduce the wear on the front drive components. I also wanted to move from 3.5 to 4.5 for increased break over angle and clearance for the 40's. Mainly just trying to keep up with the others in my group that have gone to 40's already. The 37's just couldn't do some of the things the guys on 40's were able to do. At least not without a lot more banging and bumping.
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Another update on the build. The only thing we're still waiting on is the outter stubs for the locking hubs. Shipping through Austin this week might have been a bit slower than normal. Anyway, here are some more pics. The rear truss has been painted and new shocks installed.

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The rear tires along with the spare have been mounted. The fuel caddy has been removed since it would only accommodate a tire size up to 37's.

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The rear AEV bumper has been removed to provide clearance for the 40's. I replaced the bumper with an EVO rear fascia with the bolt on D ring package.

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The hub conversion was finished up today so we went for a little test ride. I'll update this thread from time to time for any other changes that are made.

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So far I think everything is working well

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Just enough of the tub was trimmed to stuff a 40 in the wheel well.

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The hub conversion was finished up today so we went for a little test ride. I'll update this thread from time to time for any other changes that are made.

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So far I think everything is working well

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Just enough of the tub was trimmed to stuff a 40 in the wheel well.

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Looks good. Does that hub conversion change the wms position / width at all?
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I've heard it does a bit but it was nothing I noticed. That was one of my concerns because of that and going from 12.5 to 13.5 tire width if it was going to fit between the wheel wells on the trailer but it fit fine. Also, after driving it on the road, unlocked, it's well worth it. imo
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Update: I tried to go cheap on the outer stubs for the locking hubs and run chromoly with 1350's instead of RCV's. I didn't want to spend the extra grand since I plan to upgrade to 60's at some point. Anyway, made a trip to Superlift ORV park and mid way though the day broke that 1350 into a couple of pieces. Luckily I was able to unlock that side and finish the rest of the day in 3 wheel drive. So now the jeeps back in the shop adding RCV's with 300m outer shafts. Fingers crossed.

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