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Old 02-12-2019, 01:43 PM
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Overland 2dr JK build. The Ultimate Swiss Army Knife of Jeeps.

I have begun building my stock 2007 2door JK into what I consider the perfect Jeep. My goals are:


1: Increase capability to reach remote areas without greatly reducing daily drivability.


2: Add the ability to sleep in the jeep without a roof-top tent, I want to be able to pull into my campsite in the pouring rain, set up my sleep system without getting out of the jeep, and be able to fix a simple meal inside without leaving the Jeep.


3: Increase fuel Mileage, and increase fuel capacity. (this will be accomplished with a 1.9 TDI swap, and adding an auxiliary fuel tank where the existing exhaust resonator is, or possibly where the evap system is.


4: Add onboard water storage


5: mount refrigerator and cooking system that can be used inside or outside the vehicle.


6: Custom seating system that is directly related to #2, and will allow me to sleep in the passenger compartment, these will also have 4 point harnesses so that they are not in the way of movement inside the Jeep.


7: Custom roll cage replacing factory cage. directly related to #8


8: Custom canvas top that is similar in style to the old Defenders, and will be tied into the new roll cage and not require a separate folding frame. (this will be taller than ordinary tops)


9: this top will be a pop-top to help with #2, my goal is to make a soft-top pop-up. (I have not seen anyone try this before) I want to make a top that does not look like a pop-top unless actually popped up.


10: Do all of this while maintaining the ability to use as a daily driver and to take my 2 kids out camping and off-roading, to be able to roll up the sides and open the front of the top up and keep that topless feeling.


Impossible?


Just wait and see.


Each of the larger projects will be a separate thread, but I will keep track of the whole project here.


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I have begun building my stock 2007 2door JK into what I consider the perfect Jeep. My goals are:


1: Increase capability to reach remote areas without greatly reducing daily drivability.


2: Add the ability to sleep in the jeep without a roof-top tent, I want to be able to pull into my campsite in the pouring rain, set up my sleep system without getting out of the jeep, and be able to fix a simple meal inside without leaving the Jeep.


3: Increase fuel Mileage, and increase fuel capacity. (this will be accomplished with a 1.9 TDI swap, and adding an auxiliary fuel tank where the existing exhaust resonator is, or possibly where the evap system is.


4: Add onboard water storage


5: mount refrigerator and cooking system that can be used inside or outside the vehicle.


6: Custom seating system that is directly related to #2, and will allow me to sleep in the passenger compartment, these will also have 4 point harnesses so that they are not in the way of movement inside the Jeep.


7: Custom roll cage replacing factory cage. directly related to #8


8: Custom canvas top that is similar in style to the old Defenders, and will be tied into the new roll cage and not require a separate folding frame. (this will be taller than ordinary tops)


9: this top will be a pop-top to help with #2, my goal is to make a soft-top pop-up. (I have not seen anyone try this before) I want to make a top that does not look like a pop-top unless actually popped up.


10: Do all of this while maintaining the ability to use as a daily driver and to take my 2 kids out camping and off-roading, to be able to roll up the sides and open the front of the top up and keep that topless feeling.


Impossible?


Just wait and see.


Each of the larger projects will be a separate thread, but I will keep track of the whole project here.


-Straypoet
This is a very cool outline for your build. Looking forward to following along.

Will you be lifting/upgrading tires? Are you using Bruiser Conversions for you TDI?


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3: Increase fuel Mileage, and increase fuel capacity. (this will be accomplished with a 1.9 TDI swap, and adding an auxiliary fuel tank where the existing exhaust resonator is, or possibly where the evap system is.
Why a 1.9 TDI?

I would go with the 3.0 TDI. Plenty of power/torque and still gets pretty good MPG.
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This is a very cool outline for your build. Looking forward to following along.

Will you be lifting/upgrading tires? Are you using Bruiser Conversions for you TDI?


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I will be doing a small to moderate lift, I am running 33s, and don't plan to go larger than that. I am at stock height now, and have little flex and the tires rub at full stop, so going with a 2" in front and 1" in rear should be enough. My goal is to increase ground clearance, but in my experience the short wheel-base of the 2 door makes the axle itself the limiting factor for clearance in the kind of exploring that I do. I don't go rock crawling, and though I spend nearly every weekend off pavement, I am usually on fire roads and don't go into enough rough stuff that I would need more than about 2.5" of lift in my opinion.


I believe that Bruiser only does the 2.8 diesel, I don't think they do the 1.9, but if they offer adaptor plates for the 1.9 I would consider it.




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Why a 1.9 TDI?

I would go with the 3.0 TDI. Plenty of power/torque and still gets pretty good MPG.
I considered several engines: the 1.9 TDI, the 2.0 TDI, the OM617 and the OM606, in the end I chose the VW TDI for a few reasons: enough power for what I want (yes I will re-gear) and cheap availability of these engines, excellent MPG, and a very light engine (much lighter than the 3.8 I currently have)


The torque is good for what I want, and my 3.8 only produces its higher HP at rpm ranges I rarely if ever see anyway, so the power should not be an issue for me. I would honestly prefer the higher efficiency and greater power of the 2.0 TDI (more valves per cyl and more efficiency), but the cost and complexity of the conversion is more than the advantage at this time, but the bellhousing pattern is the same between the 1.9 and the 2.0, so I figure I can upgrade later if I wish. I also plan to do a different vehicle in a few years with the OM606, but that is whole other beast.
the other issue is that I don't know of anyone who makes a 3.0 TDI adaptor, and I imagine that those engines would be very expensive since they are so new. ( I assume you mean the 3.0 that is going in the new JLs)


Search "1.9 TDI TJ Wrangler" on youtube and check the guy who has the 1.9 in his TJ on 40s. If he can wheel that easily on 40s, imagine how well it will move as a light build with a re-gear on 33s.


With the increased fuel MPG, and an aux tank, I am hoping for a 600 mile range on this conversion.


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I considered several engines: the 1.9 TDI, the 2.0 TDI, the OM617 and the OM606, in the end I chose the VW TDI for a few reasons: enough power for what I want (yes I will re-gear) and cheap availability of these engines, excellent MPG, and a very light engine (much lighter than the 3.8 I currently have)


The torque is good for what I want, and my 3.8 only produces its higher HP at rpm ranges I rarely if ever see anyway, so the power should not be an issue for me. I would honestly prefer the higher efficiency and greater power of the 2.0 TDI (more valves per cyl and more efficiency), but the cost and complexity of the conversion is more than the advantage at this time, but the bellhousing pattern is the same between the 1.9 and the 2.0, so I figure I can upgrade later if I wish. I also plan to do a different vehicle in a few years with the OM606, but that is whole other beast.
the other issue is that I don't know of anyone who makes a 3.0 TDI adaptor, and I imagine that those engines would be very expensive since they are so new. ( I assume you mean the 3.0 that is going in the new JLs)


Search "1.9 TDI TJ Wrangler" on youtube and check the guy who has the 1.9 in his TJ on 40s. If he can wheel that easily on 40s, imagine how well it will move as a light build with a re-gear on 33s.


With the increased fuel MPG, and an aux tank, I am hoping for a 600 mile range on this conversion.


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I was talking about the 3.0 TDI from VW/Audi that are found in the Q5, Toureg etc. Every time I drive the Q5, i wish the jeep had that engine.

If you do go with the 1.9 TDI, Malone has some great tunes for it.
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I was talking about the 3.0 TDI from VW/Audi that are found in the Q5, Toureg etc. Every time I drive the Q5, i wish the jeep had that engine.

If you do go with the 1.9 TDI, Malone has some great tunes for it.
Then why not go with the 3.5D in my X5
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Then why not go with the 3.5D in my X5
Which year X5 has a 3.5d?! Does BMW even make a 3.5d engine?
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I was talking about the 3.0 TDI from VW/Audi that are found in the Q5, Toureg etc. Every time I drive the Q5, i wish the jeep had that engine.

If you do go with the 1.9 TDI, Malone has some great tunes for it.
The 3.0 would be a great choice. One of these days someone is going to get one in a wrangler. Unless I happen into a deal for one, I am most likely going to go with the smaller engine. That swap is planned for the fall, currently I am working on the interior modifications which I will start a thread for shortly.
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For a reference, this is a picture of the Jeep the day I bought it. (A little less than 2 years ago) It was a stock JK sport. Nothing fancy, but just what I wanted, a great platform to start. By the way if anyone cares I paid $11,000 for the jeep and it had 130,000 on the clock.

So far i have added an aftermarket bumper (no winch yet) I have upgraded the audio system with Pyle component speakers, a Kenwood amp, new led headlights, and led markers, and fog lights (came with the bumper)

I have removed the roll bar padding and covers

I have removed all the carpeting.

I have also added a CB since I ride with a few people who still use them.

My current project is a set of fold down flush seats (all 4) and I will be posting a dedicated thread about that shortly.
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I have now posted the thread for my fold-down seat conversion
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Which year X5 has a 3.5d?! Does BMW even make a 3.5d engine?
35D is the model, actually a 3.0 liter, 265hp, since 2010 - 28mpg @ 80mph
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