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Old 05-11-2018, 07:09 PM
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Starting to build my 2016 Willys 2Dr, need suggestions!

Hi fellow Jeepers.

I am a happy owner of a 2016 Willys Wheeler 2Dr. I have wheeled it in sand, snow, mud and rock trails and some forests. I did camping trips and off road parks. I am so far impressed by the stock capabilities of this vehicle.
Now I know what I want and I am considering to build it up (so far only installed teraflex quick disconnects).

I want to build a rig which will be a good expedition vehicle. This means something good to go wheeling a bit in every condition without pushing anything to the limit. And I want to be close to stock ride since it is also my DD.

I want something on the following specs:

1) 35" tires maintaining my stock Ruby-like wheels.
2) A lift good to accommodate the above tires and of high quality to ride almost like stock on road
3) A modular front steel bumper (I like the tactic, is it good?)
4) flat fenders
5) skid plates to complement (not to replace) my factory
6) Rock rails that create an entry step without loosing ground clearance.

Please, any suggestions on each of the above points? Especially on the first two?

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Old 05-12-2018, 11:55 AM
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No one suggesting?

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i think in general you have the right idea. 35s are a good size to enjoy both worlds without ruining one or the other.

lifts
the more complete kit you buy the better it will handle, period. there are several companies (metalcloak, tereflex, rock krawler) that make several stages of lift kits along with complete kits. your budget will ultimately determine your choice.

bumpers
why do you want it modular? change it later? do you want a winch (i would recommend one) and if so do you want it sunk into the bumper or sitting on top of the bumper. that might help you narrow down choices.

fenders
steel or aluminum? lots of companies make them and again budget and material will help determine what you want.

skid plates
evo makes a pretty good, relatively cheap kit that covers the basics along with stock skids. probably a good place to start.

rock sliders
you can probably get away with just about any rock sliders that have a step. there is a huge debate between body mounted vs frame mounted. if you were going to abuse and smash the shit out of them i would recommend frame mounted otherwise any body mounted sliders with a step will do.

i am guessing you haven't gotten replies because all your questions boil down to budget and personal preference/looks. if i was you starting with a clean slate i would go to 35s, make room for those 35s so get some decent flat fenders, i would get the teraflex or metalcloak HD tire carrier for the spare, get some bumper with a sunken winch, evo skids, and then maybe some VKS sliders. all that is based on what you prioritized.

however, general rule, more clearance and lockers will provide the biggest difference offroad. if i had what you had and on a budget i would find the cheapest way to get lockers in my axles, 35s or 37s, cut stock fenders and minimum armor/sliders and then go wheel.
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I don't have much experience but I'll throw in my opinion. I don't have an unlimited budget but I don't want to waste my money on junk, either.

1. I like my STT Pros. The only offroad they've seen so far has been soft sand but they chugged through no problem. On the road they have a slight hum.
2. The Rancho 2" I have would take 35s with flat fenders no problem. I like it so far, but it's not made for max flex up front. Some guys have modified it for more flex. The details are buried in the mega thread on it.
3. I don't know anything about the Tactic. I've been looking at Metalcloak for modular.
4. I don't care for the look of most flat fenders. Especially the curvier common Poison Spyder and their knockoffs. I like the MCE or RSE hybrid or crawler style, but RSE is $$$. The Rugged Ridge Hurricanes actually have a perfect shape for me but I detest pocket style. I've actually wondered if I could use body filler on the pockets and have them bedlined.
5. I'm planning to add an engine/trans skid. The aluminum Quadratec seems ok if you're not rock crawling but I'll probably end up with something steel. The ACE has a good pricepoint but I haven't done enough research to make a decision yet.
6. I've been eyeing the "Deegan 38 HD Rock Sliders w/ LED Rock Lights" from Extreme Terrain. Advertised as a functional slider with a step, includes lights for a reasonable price. I'm not a fan of tube style sliders.
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Old 05-12-2018, 02:52 PM
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Hi,

Thank you for your comments!

Yes I started off very generic. Now focusing on the first two items, the lift and tires:

Lift:
My budget is flexible, but I'd like not to exceed $1.5k.
I read good things about the MOPAR 2" kit which would go well with my max care warranty as well. But seams overpriced to me. How this kit compares to similar aftermarket kits with fix 2.0 shocks? I see a kit from quadratec with same shocks and half price.

Wheel and tires
I am happy with the quality of my stock KM2 and my wheels. I'd like to buy a set of larger KM2 and possibly keep the stock wheels. What is the size I can use on Stock wheels going to 35" tires.
The downside of KM2 is that they seam pricey to me compared to other good MTs. Any suggestion to consider a cheaper but equally good tire?

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If you want a complete lift for that price, and do not let anyone roast you, rough country can take serious punishment and if setup correctly (like any lift) rides nice.

Keep your stock rims, maybe go with some duratracs or km2s?
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If you want a complete lift for that price, and do not let anyone roast you, rough country can take serious punishment and if setup correctly (like any lift) rides nice.
After a day of browsing around and talking to people I am narrowing down to the MOPAR 2" lift (which is manifactured by Teraflex I guess) or the MetalCloak 2.5" fox edition which is more expansive.
Any experience with the MOPAR? So far looks my favorite and comes with a new driveshaft.

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Keep your stock rims, maybe go with some duratracs or km2s?
which is the maximum width I can run on stock rims with spacers?
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About the skids. I want to go Aluminium 1/4" thick since I do rocks but not hard core. I also will leave the stock rubicon skids I have and just cover the rest for now. Therefore I need a modular kit.

I am leaning towards to options: quadratec or rock hard aluminum kits.
Anyone knows pros and cons of both? Tested them on the trails?

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Ok in the end I am quite settled with the TF S/T3 3" kit and 2.1 falcon shocks.


My tires and shocks are on sale. As soon as I close a deal, I'll put my lift up.
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Old 06-22-2018, 05:39 PM
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Ok guys,

After two years of wheeling at stock height, I actually started building my rig.
I put a teraflex 3" ST/3 kit with falcon 2.1 shocks. It comes with the sport control arms and the speed bump stops.
It has been a week and so far I love it. Rides like if not better than stock.
For now I keep my 32" tiers. The ground clearence for now it's enough. I will put 35" and get that extra 1.5" of axle clearance later.

Now I have to replace my stock transmisdion cross member that I smashed into a rock at Raush Creek. Already ordered the rock hard one from NorthRidge 4x4.
I also ordered a custom front drive shaft from KrowlOffRoad.

What do you think?

Next in line after cross member and drive shaft will be differential skid plate and lower CA skids (bolt on)

Suggestions?

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KrawlOffRoad front drive shaft just deliveted. Can't wait to install it

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Driveshaft installed!

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:57 PM
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Now I installed the Smittybilt SRC Gen2 front bumper. I also put on two Rough Country cube led lights that I won at a ruffle at a jeep event



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Looking good!

I've put 80k miles on my ST3 (Mopar Stage III) and its done everything I've asked it to do. The first 60k were with Fox 2.0 shocks, but the last 20k have been with the Falcon 3.3.

My wife loved her red willys, she was t-boned a little over a year ago and we had to get rid of it. Yours reminds me a lot of hers

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Old 08-09-2018, 10:33 PM
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Looking good!

I've put 80k miles on my ST3 (Mopar Stage III) and its done everything I've asked it to do. The first 60k were with Fox 2.0 shocks, but the last 20k have been with the Falcon 3.3.

My wife loved her red willys, she was t-boned a little over a year ago and we had to get rid of it. Yours reminds me a lot of hers

I love the ST3 lift. It improved both off and onroad handling. So far I love the falcons too. I never tried the adjustable ones like yours. Unfortunately they were out of my budget but in the future who knows

Oh, and I wish I had those nice half doors like your wife ones


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