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Old 10-11-2016, 09:14 PM
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Advice on 95 Yj Frame

My son has wanted a Jeep since he got a power wheel one on his first birthday. He saved up money and just bought his first Jeep...a 95 Yj. He had it inspected and everything looked great! He's only had it a few weeks and recently went to get new shocks on it (he's 16 and just learning how to work on it so he took it to the shop). He got very bad news. His frame is cracked and can't be repaired, just replaced. He bought the Jeep for 3k and it only has 126k. Runs great otherwise. Should he get the frame replaced? (Where, how much, etc) or should he part it out considering it has a lot of upgrades? He doesn't want to lose all his "life savings" and be without a Jeep. He's not driving it at all now due to safety concerns but wants to get it road ready by winter or get another one. Please direct us which way to go. Tia


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Old 10-12-2016, 05:42 AM   #2
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Do you have some pics of the issues with the frame? Rot issues with the frame are not un common on these old jeeps...good news is there are plenty of options to fix it. We just need to understand the extent of the rust so we can advise.

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I'll get pics up but after having it looked at by 2 different repair shops it needs to be replaced and not repaired. Frame is cracked at rear shackle mount on left and front has hole from rot. Not looking good. I'm still searching to keep his Jeep for him. Thanks for responding.


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Do a little searching around here lots of folks have repaired frame rot including myself. Cracked and hole don't sound that bad.
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It looks like the moderators moved your thread to the "general discussion" forum.

You can post the pics there and continue to get opinions and advice.

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@Briggs76 you might be able to sue these vs a entire new frame:\
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@Briggs76 you might be able to sue these vs a entire new frame:\
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We did look at that as an option, but unfortunately it isn't possible with how bad his frame is. We found a new frame a a Jeep shop to rebuild it. Thanks for the response tho.


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Cost of the frame itself is probably not that bad but the labor cost to swap the frame is probably a big number.

It may be a stretch for 16 year old but replacing the frame is not really a lot more than a lot of wrenching. If could be a great learning experience and I know there are a lot of folks here that have done similar work and provide tips/answers to questions along the way.
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I agree that it would be a great project to learn from with your son being new to all of this. The down side is that it is a big project and will definitely take some time and he would need some guidance. There are tons of knowledgeable people here that have done the same thing and we will help guide you guys through this if you decide to do it yourselves.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...6&d=1360185199

This is where mine started....I have been there.

The thing with most shops is that they don't understand a lot of the custom things that us hot rodders do. I'm sure the frame can be fixed, but it certainly needs to be done by someone that knows what they are doing. I have repaired and modified my frame in a whole bunch of places and have full confidence in it. If you look at the first couple pages of my build I am sure you will see similar frame problems to your son's Jeep.
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Echoing daddyjeep above,

I have cut feet off my frame that were too rusty for my liking and welded in fresh steel and have 100% confidence in it. I can't imagine a truly "unfixable" scenario.

I do understand why the shops would approach the issue this way though, they can't take chances.

However you proceed, good luck and I'm sure either fixing or replacing will be an invaluable experience. It can be daunting at times but the end result is worth it and the experience builds character and confidence.
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Echoing daddyjeep above,

I have cut feet off my frame that were too rusty for my liking and welded in fresh steel and have 100% confidence in it. I can't imagine a truly "unfixable" scenario.

I do understand why the shops would approach the issue this way though, they can't take chances.

However you proceed, good luck and I'm sure either fixing or replacing will be an invaluable experience. It can be daunting at times but the end result is worth it and the experience builds character and confidence.


We found the rebuild project at a shop that specializes in Jeep builds. When the owner saw my son is an enthusiast and knew quite a bit, they told him they'd help (mostly build) his dream Jeep. He now will have a new frame on a 4 inch lift, new tub with zero rust, and he's going to have a 350 small block in it. He will go there on weekends and learn and help on his Jeep. He is so glad to be part of the Jeep community. I'll post pics when it's done. Thanks for all the help


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I agree that it would be a great project to learn from with your son being new to all of this. The down side is that it is a big project and will definitely take some time and he would need some guidance. There are tons of knowledgeable people here that have done the same thing and we will help guide you guys through this if you decide to do it yourselves.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...6&d=1360185199

This is where mine started....I have been there.

The thing with most shops is that they don't understand a lot of the custom things that us hot rodders do. I'm sure the frame can be fixed, but it certainly needs to be done by someone that knows what they are doing. I have repaired and modified my frame in a whole bunch of places and have full confidence in it. If you look at the first couple pages of my build I am sure you will see similar frame problems to your son's Jeep.


It is similar to his actually. We will save his frame after his rebuild since we did find a new one. That way if anyone else on here needs one I'll have it. Thanks


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We found the rebuild project at a shop that specializes in Jeep builds. When the owner saw my son is an enthusiast and knew quite a bit, they told him they'd help (mostly build) his dream Jeep. He now will have a new frame on a 4 inch lift, new tub with zero rust, and he's going to have a 350 small block in it. He will go there on weekends and learn and help on his Jeep. He is so glad to be part of the Jeep community. I'll post pics when it's done. Thanks for all the help

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Sounds like a perfect opportunity for your son. You should start a build thread so we can follow along.
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I will. We start next weekend. He's so excited


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