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Old 09-08-2017, 01:01 PM
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So i have been searching all day to try and find some info on this id like to know about how much lift I get from them I'm staying sua and I would like to know are they a just a bolt on or do I have to modify anything... I'm just looking for a little lift and my stock front leafs are sagging a little making the front lower witch looks odd but if any one could tell me if its just bolt on and how much lift with maybe a 1 inch shackle or body lift

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You'll get about 2" of lift and 2" of stretch with the Waggy springs. You can get 0" of stretch if you install the short end towards the frame mount side.

Note, only front Waggy spring will work (the rears are too long, so you'll need 2 sets of front springs). A lot of guys go with the Rancho 44044, which is a 2" lift for the FSJ's and totals about 4" of lift and 2" of stretch on the YJs.

For the rear, you **may** run into issues with the gas tank clearance running the Waggy springs with stretch, but many people are OK with the OEM tank and OEM diff cover.

Depending on where you live, you can keep an eye out for a used set of 2.5" springs. They pop up frequently around here and around the forums I follow. You can get a nice (but used) set of springs for less than $150 most times. A set of new urethane frame bushings and new springs will make your YJ ride nice while providing the lift you're looking for.

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is it also 2" of lift if you are soa?

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Old 09-15-2017, 07:57 AM   #4
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is it also 2" of lift if you are soa?

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Nope, it's a +2" lift in SUA configuration.

For SOA, you'll be adding roughly 5.5" on top of the +2", so somewhere in the ballpark of 7-7.5" of expected total lift. This will have a VERY high COG and you'll be able to fit roughly 37" tires without rubbing, though doing so on the factory D30/D35 combo is asking for trouble.

Personally, SOA doesn't appeal to me (esp with factory axles) since running a flat spring isn't the best for uptravel and the resulting total lift results in an unnecessarily high COG and instability in off-camber situations. To each his/her own, so choose your path wisely
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I'm already soa and I didn't want any more lift I just wanted the stretch so I didn't need to buy a new driveline if I put in a d60 but I've been toying with a pile of different axle swaps I think I'll just go with an 8.8 you'll pay a fortune for the right one ton axles I'm pretty happy with my soa right now i haven't had any instability yet guess it's about knowing your limits

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1How do the waggy springs flex ??

2 would it be wise to just do the streach in front orshould it be done all streach ?

And do I need to worry about my pinion angle

And im sua for now its my daily driver at the moment but i like to do some trails for hunting and fishing and I need about 2" of lift
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Waggy springs are said to flex very well on yj's.
Google terms like 'waggy spring yj' or waggy spring flex' for flex porn.



There's no harm in stretching either front or rear alone.
The front means you'll have to pay attention to the steering links and possible binding there; the rear means you'll have to pay attention to the clearance between the rear pumpkin and the gas tank skid and possible binding there.




The pinion angle isn't too big a concern until you install an SYE.
Without an SYE you want to keep the pinion angle pointing parallel to the direction of the t-case output yoke.
With an SYE you want to either use shims or re-weld the spring perches to point the pinion straight at the t-case yoke.

One thing to keep in mind is that if you orient the waggy springs to give you the stretch you will need a longer driveshaft for that axle. If you stretch the rear and need a new shaft you may as well do the SYE at the same time and get the cv shaft.
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Another question...
Do I need boomarang shackles to install these springs or are my stock ones okay for now my rear shackles are almost straight up and down and my fronts are at maybe a 45* angle I was thinking with waggy springs being 57" it would put more of an angle on my shackles
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I installed a set on the front of my 91. It gave me 2 1/2"of lift and extended my W.B 2". I Built a set of 1/2" lift shackles out of stainless plate giving me 3" total lift. You will need to get the front shaft extended. Here are pictures Before and after.



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Nice!!! I have been curious about this for some time now. Great to see before and after.
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I installed a set on the front of my 91. It gave me 2 1/2"of lift and extended my W.B 2". I Built a set of 1/2" lift shackles out of stainless plate giving me 3" total lift. You will need to get the front shaft extended. Here are pictures Before and after.

That new shackle angle looks great - I'm curious whether it rides any better now?
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It seems to ride a little better. Also i have a 350 in mine which weighs more than the original 2.5
My before and after picks are with the 350. A lighter engine may let your ride be slightly higher.

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