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Old 11-30-2016, 08:30 AM
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Here's my setup, bought it earlier this year and have towed for roughly 5K miles on several trips since.

It's a Coachmen Clipper 17FQ. Dry weight is 2870 pounds, tongue weight is 295 pounds. I don't load more than 300 pounds of gear into it and always tow with empty tanks so the gross weight is less than 3500.

I changed the tiny 12" wheels/tires it came with to 15" load range D.

MSRP was $16.5K and I paid $10,995 plus tax and tags at Crestview in Georgetown. You could probably make the short trip up to their San Marcos location and get some stats on it.

Pulling it took a little getting used to. I added a P3 brake controller and wouldn't leave my driveway without it. I stay off Interstates and stick with back roads where most people don't care that I'm going 55-60mph. I usually average about 11mpg when towing down to the coast about 210 miles each way to either Mustang Island on Padre or the LCRA park on Matagorda Bay. So far I haven't noticed a need for either a WD hitch or sway bars.

My JKU does very well, usually cruising along in 4th at 55-60 with downshifts to 3rd depending on wind and grade. I had noticed that during hot summer months my coolant temps were getting high (240F) so I removed the plastic grill inserts and it's been great since (212-225F with outside temp over 100F).

The trailer itself has been great - I spent months trying to match something that I could pull with the Jeep but had the features I wanted, like a walk-around queen size bed and full bath with vanity sink. The floor plan is great, we've camped up to seven nights at a time in it (two of us and an 11 year old), and the A/C keeps it nice and cold. Added a flat panel TV and wired it into the sound system, replaced the cheap mattress with a memory foam, and several other little mods.

For trips that involve Interstate and long hauls (300+ miles each way) I use a pickup but it's obviously more fun with the Jeep especially when we go to the coast.
Man thank you, Hey did you go to Beach and Jeeps this last summer, I feel like I have seen this jeep. Are you with a club down here and if so which one? Im with JRep (Jeep Republic). Im guess your from Austin? Love the setup and write up on this. Exactly what I was looking for.

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Only know its there when hitting hills. (315's and 3:73 gears.) But I tow in fifth gear instead of sixth which helps. 70-75 on the highway gets down to about 14mpg, regards of 5th or 6th.
No sway, even when intentionally rocking the wheel back and forth.
Backing up is fun with both short wheel bases.

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Man thank you, Hey did you go to Beach and Jeeps this last summer, I feel like I have seen this jeep. Are you with a club down here and if so which one? Im with JRep (Jeep Republic). Im guess your from Austin? Love the setup and write up on this. Exactly what I was looking for.
I didn't make it to Port A for Jeeps on the Beach last summer (wanted to) but am a member of AJP, and the guy that pretty much heads up the club has a black/white JKU ("Aw Hale") like mine and a Clipper 17BH that looks very similar. We often get confused for each other.

The 17BH has a sideways queen bed but has two bunks. I would have liked to have had the two bunks but with a sideways queen somebody has to roll over someone else to get out of it. So I went with the walk-around bed instead.

Check out the Coachmen Clipper website for floor plans. It's one of the few travel trailers you'll find that has an acceptable tongue weight for the JKU (350 pound limit). Many of the others I looked into like R-Pod were close to 400 when you added the battery and propane tank.
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I have the same camper as Austintatious above, a 2014 Coachmen Clipper 17FQ. My JKU pulls it with basically no problem, although I do sometimes have to downshift to 4th (6 speed) on hills. This and the Viking 17fq, which is basically the exact same thing except color and trim, were the only campers I found that had the features I was looking for in a package that was doable with a JKU. Which, coincidentally are the same as what he was looking for. A full walk around queen and a full bathroom. I also ditched the stock mattress for a memory foam and am trying to justify installing a flat screen, but with no kids, I don't think I need or really want one.

Besides the frontal area, this camper is about perfect for a JKU as long as the operator is aware that they are going to be pulling close to the max trailer weight, even when it's empty. I got a killer deal on mine as I bought it used at about 6 months old. The previous owners bought it as a retirement camper, but they decided it was too big for their needs and went with a teardrop. They never even opened the awning on it, it was literally like brand new I got it for $7250 and that included an Equal-I-Zer hitch and swaybars (roughly $1k, I believe). I installed a P3 brake controller and Mopar wiring harness for it. The only real negative to the whole JKU/camper package I've found so far is the JKU's brakes. While not, imho, dangerous for normal use, they are far from ideal if an emergency came up. I have since ordered the Teraflex BBk for the front and Big Rotor kit for the rear to remedy this. I've also ordered a set of 4.56 gears to help with the power situation as well, although some new, slightly bigger rubber is going to negate a little bit of that. Overall, once I get the new brakes and gears installed, I am confident that I will be able to pull this unit anywhere I want to go. I've pulled it probably about 1500 miles so far with no issues at all. This has been over the course of 4 trips. I never bothered to check my mileage while towing it, because I really don't care what it is.

I have a lifetime membership to a company called Outdoor Adventures here in Michigan that offers free camping at any of their resorts. There are 3 or 4 of them within an hour of my house, so it makes it pretty easy to get to. Ive always been anti-camper and have viewed camping as something to be done in tents and only with what you can carry on your back for 10-14 days. I received the Outdoor Adventures membership as a gift several years ago but never used it for actual camping until this summer. Now that I have a decent camper and close enough places to use it, I'm enjoying the more refined experience of modern camping. I still am not ready to give up my minimalist backpacking stuff, but as I get older, I don't know if I see myself pounding out any more 10 mile days for a week straight with 40 pounds on my back.
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I changed the tiny 12" wheels/tires it came with to 15" load range D.

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Did you have any other modifications necessary for this switch? I want to do this same thing but I'm thinking the corner stabilizers may be too short and the step into the camper may be too tall with the bigger tires.
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if your pushing that with your jeep then no, lol, but since im assuming your not, then yeah, that's cheating. nice try though
You figured it out. Most think I actually "tow" the Jeep. 😉
Now, to actually bring something of value to this thread, if you can attend one of these events, you'll see many trailer rig setups. It's a great show, with many vendors and some really unique ideas for off road camping. Only issue is they hold them in Flagstaff, AZ & Asheville, NC. Worth the trip if you can make it.

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Did you have any other modifications necessary for this switch? I want to do this same thing but I'm thinking the corner stabilizers may be too short and the step into the camper may be too tall with the bigger tires.
I was actually prepared to, had a set of extended shackles I was going to install but decided to put the new wheels/tires on first and much to my surprise there was plenty of clearance. The step wasn't raised so much to be noticeable. My reasons for changing out the wheel/tire setup was primarily because the OEM ones were barely weight rated for the trailer with no safety margin at all and I wanted black rims to match my JKU.

Apparently it varies from trailer to trailer though. I know someone else with the same trailer who had to do an axle flip because a lateral support was welded to the frame much closer to the wheel well than mine was. I wanted to avoid flipping the axle since it gives over 3" of lift and that seemed excessive to me.

Thousands of miles since and I haven't had any issues except once when I towed with an almost full black tank. That put a lot more weight on the rear of the camper and I hit one of those "whoosh" road dips at 50 that makes you go up then down and the trailer tires just barely rubbed the inner wheel well. So I always tow with empty tanks now which is smart for a host of other reasons anyway.
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I didn't make it to Port A for Jeeps on the Beach last summer (wanted to) but am a member of AJP, and the guy that pretty much heads up the club has a black/white JKU ("Aw Hale") like mine and a Clipper 17BH that looks very similar. We often get confused for each other.

The 17BH has a sideways queen bed but has two bunks. I would have liked to have had the two bunks but with a sideways queen somebody has to roll over someone else to get out of it. So I went with the walk-around bed instead.

Check out the Coachmen Clipper website for floor plans. It's one of the few travel trailers you'll find that has an acceptable tongue weight for the JKU (350 pound limit). Many of the others I looked into like R-Pod were close to 400 when you added the battery and propane tank.
Yep, the 17BH is exactly what I want. Don't really mind the rolling over part lol. But it would be nice to have the bunks because I have a son that is getting big. and it would be nice to have somewhere to put him. And it looks great because we can put a roll guard at the part that is open and the wall blocks the rest, so he wont fall off. And the fact that it has a bathroom is great.

And nice to meet you, I just joined AJP about 2 weeks ago. Dramatron is my Jeep. You going to Hidden Falls anytime soon? be cool to meet up
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I was actually prepared to, had a set of extended shackles I was going to install but decided to put the new wheels/tires on first and much to my surprise there was plenty of clearance. The step wasn't raised so much to be noticeable. My reasons for changing out the wheel/tire setup was primarily because the OEM ones were barely weight rated for the trailer with no safety margin at all and I wanted black rims to match my JKU.

Apparently it varies from trailer to trailer though. I know someone else with the same trailer who had to do an axle flip because a lateral support was welded to the frame much closer to the wheel well than mine was. I wanted to avoid flipping the axle since it gives over 3" of lift and that seemed excessive to me.

Thousands of miles since and I haven't had any issues except once when I towed with an almost full black tank. That put a lot more weight on the rear of the camper and I hit one of those "whoosh" road dips at 50 that makes you go up then down and the trailer tires just barely rubbed the inner wheel well. So I always tow with empty tanks now which is smart for a host of other reasons anyway.
I'm going to try it next time I have a few minutes. I sell some utility trailers at work and have access to plenty of trailer tires/rims. It would be awesome if it was just an easy replacement like yours, I'd rather not lift it at all.

Do you happen to know the tire size of the 15" style you went with?
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I'm going to try it next time I have a few minutes. I sell some utility trailers at work and have access to plenty of trailer tires/rims. It would be awesome if it was just an easy replacement like yours, I'd rather not lift it at all.

Do you happen to know the tire size of the 15" style you went with?
I went with these:

https://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-W...a/AM32424.html

If I recall correctly they are only 2" larger in diameter than the crappy little tires/wheels that came with it, so they are only 1" greater at any given point.
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Yep, the 17BH is exactly what I want. Don't really mind the rolling over part lol. But it would be nice to have the bunks because I have a son that is getting big. and it would be nice to have somewhere to put him. And it looks great because we can put a roll guard at the part that is open and the wall blocks the rest, so he wont fall off. And the fact that it has a bathroom is great.
Keep in mind that depending on how tall you are the sideways placement of the bed might mean you can't fully stretch out.

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And nice to meet you, I just joined AJP about 2 weeks ago. Dramatron is my Jeep. You going to Hidden Falls anytime soon? be cool to meet up
I've been thinking about going to the Polar Bear Run at HF in January, pulling the trailer out there on Friday and spending Fri/Sat night. I'm not too excited at the thought of fording any streams or mud pits just yet but maybe by then I'll get over my OCD
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how the H E double hockey sticks are you pulling that. Doesn't your Jeep scream. Just curious because something like this would be awesome but I feel that trailer has to be around 4500+ dry weight. your not worried about your jeep?
Trailer weight is 3300lbs. I'm definitely pushing my jeep but it gets it from A to B. I don't travel long distances either.

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Man that is a slick setup! I love the matching wheels. Was looking at teardrop setups as well. Could you post some pics of the inside please. I'm sure everyone would like to see what kind of accommodations are available with that size camper.
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Man that is a slick setup! I love the matching wheels. Was looking at teardrop setups as well. Could you post some pics of the inside please. I'm sure everyone would like to see what kind of accommodations are available with that size camper.
Thanks! I can come up with some photos. The matched tires/rims are because the trailer does not have a spare. It allows me to share the spare off the Jeep, or in the worst case, steal a tire from the trailer and come back to get it later if I somehow lose multiple tires while towing.

The interior is a bed, some lights, some drawers/shelves, a small lockbox, and a bunch of radio gear. The first 3 photos are from google since I don't have all my photos with me at the moment, the last photo is from my trailer. You can see the bug-screen at the back of the trailer (behind the lock box) that allows me to open the rear door but keep insects from getting into the trailer. The ceiling mounted fan is also bug-screened.

The bed is a standard size (full), and I have both the foam mattress that Treeline/SoCal produces in house, and also a 4" memory foam topper. I use some chemical heating packs to keep the interior warm when it gets below freezing outside. It does not take much to keep the inside warm, since it isn't all that large inside.

I also have an option that allows the side doors of the trailer to be locked from the inside, but I don't have a photo of that right now. You can sort of see the white colored plastic locking block hanging from the right wall of the trailer from a wire in the photo that shows the radio gear.

There is no place inside for a commode, unless you want to put it on the bed (ick!). I put an ARB privacy surround on one of the awnings to give myself a bathroom when camping, and I use the provided facilities when at rest stops/truck stops etc.






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My sister and her husband have a teardrop that they camp in. For what it is, it's really nice. For my needs in a camper, it wouldn't work though, just too small. When going through my research in deciding what route I wanted to go, I looked at several and decided that for what it is, I would personally be better off just getting a regular trailer and keeping my tent camping set-up (which admittedly is still my favorite style of camping). Again, for me and my needs, I figured that if I'm going to have a camper it's going to a "wet" camper with full bathroom facilities, otherwise, I'm just gonna use a tent because A) I enjoy it and B) I have a complete set-up already that I've put together over the years. If I was planning more backcountry, off-road style camping trips, I may have considered it more closely but again, I would probably default to my tent for that situation.

Additionally, I got a great deal on mine and would have been looking at several thousand more at least for a decent teardrop.
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This gypsy wagon is 1800 pounds and I pull it with a 2013 JK on 35s and... Wait for it... 3.21 gears. Pulled from central Florida to North Tennessee with no issues. Even managed to pass semis and other trailers up those hills. We got 12mpg on the entire trip.
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Here is my little project. Haven't camped in it yet. I just picked it up from the paint shop this week. Had it painted to match my jeep. I've towed it a few hours in the mountains as is with no issues. We did put a lift on it also. It's a fiberglass camper so really light. I have an auto with 4.10s. You can find some really good deals on these little fiberglass campers. I think they are a great option for our jeeps because they are light.
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Here is my little project. Haven't camped in it yet. I just picked it up from the paint shop this week. Had it painted to match my jeep. I've towed it a few hours in the mountains as is with no issues. We did put a lift on it also. It's a fiberglass camper so really light. I have an auto with 4.10s. You can find some really good deals on these little fiberglass campers. I think they are a great option for our jeeps because they are light.
You should have had them paint flames on it...lol
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I hope to get one of these to tow shorter (4-5 hours) trips.

I like how the beds don't take up any valuable floor space and actually get a couch in there as well.

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She's back at her winter home now but in the summer we tow all over with a JKUR.

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Did you have any other modifications necessary for this switch? I want to do this same thing but I'm thinking the corner stabilizers may be too short and the step into the camper may be too tall with the bigger tires.
I flipped the axle on a camper and had the wive complaining about the first step being too big. RV places sell all kinds of portable steps. I just built a box out of a scrap 1 x 6 and put a 3/4 inch piece of plywood on it painted it with a couple coats of paint. Works well but I do like it better after I put a used pull handle on it makes it easier to grab an pick up with the handle.
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We tow this Flagstaff Popup with our 2012 JKUR. The Jeep is lifted 1.5" with 285/70s running 3.73 gears. The Popup wears 2000 lbs. empty, and maxes at 3200 lbs. we usually have 300-400 pounds in it when we go on a weekend trip. Normal gas mileage towing is around 14-15 MPG.

I pulled the camper from Central Texas to Moab, Utah and back in September, totaled 2700 miles round trip. We loaded the Jeep with 3 - 35 quart coolers with food, drinks, and ice, a crate full of tools, and clothing for two people for a week. The camper was loaded with a fridge full of food and a handful of dry food items plus our normal load. We keep bedding for two beds, two folding chairs, a 7 gallon gray water tank, a lightweight set of dishes and cookware, small electric floor heater, and cleaning supplies. Over the entire trip we averaged 14.5 MPG driving 65-75.
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Built the shorter version of ExitLeft's Dinoot trailer and added a roof top tent. Works well for our needs as: 1) we have a 2 door and need all the carrying capacity we can get (hence more trailer than dedicated camper), 2) come from backpacking/minimal ground tent and RTT is a significant upgrade in size and comfort, 3) it pulls easy with a fully loaded weight under 1,200#, 4) costs can be kept low as trailer is a kit.


You said the trailer is a Kit? mind putting a link to the place you got it? this would be super cool to have if I go solo camping/wheeling as I love to stay in a tent. Camper would be more for my wife and child. Thanks
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Here is my little project. Haven't camped in it yet. I just picked it up from the paint shop this week. Had it painted to match my jeep. I've towed it a few hours in the mountains as is with no issues. We did put a lift on it also. It's a fiberglass camper so really light. I have an auto with 4.10s. You can find some really good deals on these little fiberglass campers. I think they are a great option for our jeeps because they are light.
Whats the make and model of that camper? never really seen anything like it. Looks good and pretty roomie for a few people. Cost?
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You said the trailer is a Kit? mind putting a link to the place you got it? this would be super cool to have if I go solo camping/wheeling as I love to stay in a tent. Camper would be more for my wife and child. Thanks
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The forum section was helpful, good build threads to walk you through. Email Scott (owner) with questions, helpful through the tire kicking stage all the way through some hiccups encountered during the build.
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For anyone shopping, take a look at the Fiberglass trailers:
1) Casita 13, 16 or 17 (17 would likely be too heavy tongue weight for JK).
2) Scamp 13 or 16.
3) Escape 15 or 17.
4) Parkliner (15)
5) Lil Snoozy
Some other brands on the used market: Burro; U-Haul; Boler; Trillium.

Most are lightweight; hold their values extremely well; and there is quite the following among "egg" camper owners (much like Jeep owners, with egg gatherings held everywhere).

Edit: You can find used ones for around $4k to $15k depending on the model.
Interesting forum to visit is the FiberglassRV forum.
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