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Old 03-06-2010, 10:42 PM
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Can't decide which sub

So There are two amplified subs i'm looking at by boss audio, I don't need anything too crazy bass wise, but I really can't deal with not having much at all. So I searched and found either Amazon.com: Boss Audio BASS800 10-Inch Amplified Subwoofer with Passive Radiator - Single (Black): Car Electronics that one or Amazon.com: Boss BASS1200 10-Inch Low Profile Amplified Subwoofer with Remote Subwoofer Level Control: Electronics this one, the thing I like about the second one is it takes less space so i can put it under a seat or something, but the first one i feel like would put out more bass since it's not shallow mounted...

Has anyone used either of these or what are your suggestions, I need help deciding!!!

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I'd be too scared to put anything in my jeep that can be easily taken. I would rather lose a little sound quality for something that can be hidden, personally.

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Yeah, I understand that, which is why i'm leaning towards the second one, but at the same time in the complex of condos where I live there is a security gaurd that rolls around a few times a night so I feel like I should be okay, no one has stolen my head unit, but that's just so far...
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How much do you take your top off, drive someplace, and go inside for longer than say 20 minutes? I've just had experiences all over the place that I know somebody has been in my jeep. I keep everything on the interior locked, but not my doors. I'd rather them just open it up without forced entry, than to rip open my soft top.
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well i've only been driving this since i got it for christmas, I really like the idea of taking my top off once it stops snowing and stuff here in CO, but I'm just not sure.
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If you mount the second one in a discreet location...it'll be your best option since it won't stick out saying, "LOOK I'M A SUBWOOFER!!!! STEAL ME!!!" yet it'll give you a lil extra boom...thanks for posting, I'm actually considering one myself. The reviews are good...the price is good (cheap enough if someone steals it, it won't be the end of the world), and surely it'll perform better than the 6 1/2" sub that comes in the center console. lol
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I dont know about that tube, but I cant imagine that flat putting out anything in the way of bass do to its size, I could be way off, but I doubt it.

I just got done with the stereo in mine and chose to sacrifice the trunk area for the most part for a 12" in an (almost) properly sized box (I had to go a little smaller than recommended) Then it and the amps will be hidden under a panel, and lastly the box is screwed down from the inside before the sub was installed.

Granted, if they remove the panel, see it, then jump up and down with enough force to break the 5/8" box apart, they can take it. By the time they go through all that it will be well earned lol.

For me the chance of someone getting it after all the measures I went through to hide and secure it is worth the risk to have decent sound. I didnt spend a ton on the amps just in case and subs are fairly cheap for kicker comps or something along those lines. Total investment in the trunk is about 325.00 so although it would suck if it got stolen, it wouldn't be catastrophic.
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yeah the second one, the small rectangular box like one, I read the reviews they seem like it's good, but then the reviews on the bigger one said that it actually bumps and it's just such a hard decision
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I dont know about that tube, but I cant imagine that flat putting out anything in the way of bass do to its size, I could be way off, but I doubt it.

I just got done with the stereo in mine and chose to sacrifice the trunk area for the most part for a 12" in an (almost) properly sized box (I had to go a little smaller than recommended) Then it and the amps will be hidden under a panel, and lastly the box is screwed down from the inside before the sub was installed.

Granted, if they remove the panel, see it, then jump up and down with enough force to break the 5/8" box apart, they can take it. By the time they go through all that it will be well earned lol.

For me the chance of someone getting it after all the measures I went through to hide and secure it is worth the risk to have decent sound. I didnt spend a ton on the amps just in case and subs are fairly cheap for kicker comps or something along those lines. Total investment in the trunk is about 325.00 so although it would suck if it got stolen, it wouldn't be catastrophic.
You'd be amazed at what some of those shallow mount subs in a sealed enclosure can put out these days... I had a couple shallow mount Elemental Designs 10" subs that I never used and sold them to a friend. Later I heard those same subs in small boxes like that (slightly larger, but appropriately sized to the subs) in 2 different vehicles and holy crap...never expected them to sound so good.

The only thing is smaller sealed subs aren't going to hit the ultra lows like a ported sub will...they'll have more tight, crisp sounding bass.
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yeah the second one, the small rectangular box like one, I read the reviews they seem like it's good, but then the reviews on the bigger one said that it actually bumps and it's just such a hard decision
Also note the number of reviews though...the first one has like 3. The other one has around 40. I think you'll find the shallow mount will bump too...but it ain't gonna be like ghetto bumping. Personally...I like the bump of a smaller sealed box over the tube design. It goes better with my style of music...rock/metal/country.
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I personally listen to alot of rap type music, but i also like rock alot and reggae type stuff too, I want something that will impress my friends a little but, yeah the number of reviews, hmm... anyone who listens to more hip hop rap type music that has used one of these shallow mounts?
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I personally listen to alot of rap type music, but i also like rock alot and reggae type stuff too, I want something that will impress my friends a little but, yeah the number of reviews, hmm... anyone who listens to more hip hop rap type music that has used one of these shallow mounts?
For rap, the first one you posted will probably sound better (the second won't sound bad...but it most likely isn't going to boom either).

Keep in mind though...a stolen sub won't impress anybody no matter how good or bad it sounded. But your friends will be the only ones laughing when it happens. IMO, when you drive a Wrangler, your audio dreams pretty much go out the window...ESPECIALLY if you have a soft top.

I went from having a full Elemental Designs system in my regular cab truck--2 10's in a large box, components with crossovers in the doors, and a nice amp to power the subs (ran the components off my Pioneer headunit...they still sounded good enough to me). When I bought the Jeep, I yanked everything out of my truck and it's now listed for sale. No way I'm putting it in my Jeep. My friends all loved it... but I had to decide...do I want to impress my friends knowing eventually somebody is going to steal everything and leave me out about $500 or do I go with something small and discreet and not take as much of a risk of it all getting stolen?
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In my old Nissan, I had 2 10's in a little a** plexiglass box type deal. I listened to tons of Drum and Bass music, and Breakcore. That box slammed my friend's 2 12's believe it or not. It was expensive, but the box I think would fit behind the backseat in a Jeep...but you'd have to get creative with the amp.

I wouldn't reccomend putting anything over $20 in a Jeep though. Way too easy to get into it. If you want a system in one of these things, what I would do is build a steel box to put the speaker box in. Line it with that soundproof insullation stuff, and keep the front open. I'd remove the backseat, or relocate it somehow, and bolt the entire thing straight through.

Sound systems aren't cheap. It wouldn't even be fun getting a cheap $400 or $500 system taken. Odds are they'll trash the top too because most of these idiots don't think to just undo the zipper, so that's even more money.

But if you do really want one, take the extra steps for security. Maybe even an alarm system. I think it'd be a good investment.
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i have a ten inch s.m. memphis in the back of mine, and i listen to alot of rap and i have to say thats all i really need. yes you can still hear yourself think, unlike having 2 12's, and it wont set off any car alarms, but i still sounds amazing.
and anyways, shame on you if the only reason you are buying a sub is to impress people
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The flat sub has a LOT of good reviews. I would look through that one a bit more if you were interested. The other option is to look at this: http://www.bestop.com/installation_guides/42624.pdf

My brother had one, and it locks by your tailgate. The problem is, you have to make the decision to lose the space.
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They also make sub boxes that are Jeep specific but they aren't cheap... they have a downfiring sub and they bolt straight through I believe. Not sure if the amp is protected or left in a vulnerable location though. You can find em on either Quadratec or 4wd.com...can't remember which site I saw em on.
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Quadratec Exclusive JW-SUB-8 - Kicker Competition 8" Subwoofer Kit for 87-06 Jeep® Wrangler YJ, TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec

this what you were talking bout sentenced???

little pricey, IMO
might be able to make the box like that though
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I think I'm going to Go with the shallower one, based on what you all are saying, It has alot of good reviews I think it'll give me the bass I'm looking for, I honestly don't like when systems are sooo powerful I can't hear myself think, like some of my friends in their extended cap pickups or 2 door blazers stuff like that, so with having decided on the boss 1200, How much space is between the tub and the bottom of the rear seat? I want to put this somewhere out of sight if someone were to actually get into my jeep.
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there is only about 2-3 inches under there, so it will be tight but should fit. the only thing you will have to worry about is the heat. I'm almost positive that amp will overheat under the seat, coming from the fact that mine does, so it will prolly shut off on long trips to save itself from damage
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this what you were talking bout sentenced???

little pricey, IMO
might be able to make the box like that though
That'd be it...they also sell em unloaded... but they STILL aren't cheap. Over $200 I believe. If my subs and amp don't sell, I'm debating buying one for a 10"...and just selling one of my 2 subs.
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Well, what is a long trip to you? I think the longest i've driven my jeep is from denver to a ski area here about 1hr30min away, besides that I don't drive for more than 30 mins at a time.
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well mine will shut off after about 1.5 hours of medium pounding, so i have to keep the bass level down a bit if i want to travel far. its not a big deal, and it is a sacrifice you should be willing to make.
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That'd be it...they also sell em unloaded... but they STILL aren't cheap. Over $200 I believe. If my subs and amp don't sell, I'm debating buying one for a 10"...and just selling one of my 2 subs.
i am sure you could build your own box that is similar to those, and save about $170
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i am sure you could build your own box that is similar to those, and save about $170
The last time I built a box... it took me a 4x8 sheet of MDF to accomplish what my friends could have done with a 4x2 sheet.

I'm sure I could accomplish the same thing cheaper if i were good at building boxes...but I may shell out the extra cash to save from screwing up repeatedly. lmao
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Oh okay, well most of my driving is done alone, so It wont be up all the way unless i'm trying to impress a girl or something Now i'm sorry that all i ask is questions but if i am playing music currently and turn the bass up too much or have the volume too loud it sounds like my front speakers fart a little, if i'm keeping those same speakers will that effect the sub at all, I mean eventually i'll replace those but for now they should be fine right?
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the speakers will not effect the sub. the sub you want has a remote bass control so you can turn up/down the bass without changing the volume.
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Hey aenima, you wanna impress your friends...pick up one of these...lol

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you need to get new friends if it takes $600 to impress them...hahah
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those ones that fit in behind the rear seat look sick, but i'm also on a budget here, i'm in highschool and got some christmas/birthday money left over about 150 bucks and my dad's gonna pay the rest prolly not over 50 though so that's why i chose those two, and thanks appstate, I've decided on the boss 1200 since it will fit under my rear seat and be concealed, and also thank you everyone else who has put input into this, Now i have to wait til the end of this coming week to order it, but once I get it hooked up i'll let everyone know how i feel about my choice
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