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Old 03-09-2016, 04:46 PM
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Help planning pioneer AVH-X3800BHS

Ok so here is some background. I had a 2012 JKU and I put Polk 6.5's in the sound bar, a kenwood 1000 watt amp, and two JL 10's. Stock HU

The difference in sound the Polk's made alone was amazing to me. They had no amp, they just ran off of the stock HU

Fast forward and now I have a 2016 JKU. I still have the kenwood amp and two JL's.

I think I want an aftermarket HU though and I'm leaning toward the pioneer AVH-X3800BHS

Few questions.

-what back up camera and wire should I get with it? Amazon recommended one that was $22. I'm totally ignorant in regards to backup cams so will almost anyone do?

-since my Polk's sounded great to me running off the stock HU shouldn't they sound even better with the pioneer? Should I get another amp to run them? The wiring seems like it would be a pain

-is there any trick I need to do to watch the dvd (for my daughter on trips) while the vehicle is in motion? Like some module that I need to instal preferably while I'm installing the unit the first time.

-any other tricks or tips with this head unit?

Should I swap out the tweeters in the dash? If so do they have a low pass filter on them? Are they special? Or can I just pick up a set that fits?

I planning on mounting the amp under the front seat either with the special amp mount made for the wrangler or just a thick piece of wood like the last time I did it. Is there a better spot? What if I end up getting another amp for the smaller speakers. Where does everyone put those?

Thanks!

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Old 03-09-2016, 05:21 PM
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Oh. I almost forgot. I'm 7 days into the year subscription of Sirius that comes with the jeep.

Will I need anything to use it on the 3800? As in, an antenna adapter or will the stock Siriys antenna plug into the 3800?

And all I have to do is call Sirius to get them to switch over the service to the new HU, right?

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Old 03-11-2016, 10:46 PM   #3
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I just today sent back to amazon a little harness that allows you to watch dvds while the jeep is in motion. I was going to install it, but decided that the kids would always want to watch movies, that would get old quick. It was under 15 bucks. I'll look on my history and get you more info.
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:50 PM   #4
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Get the 5800, it has HD radio. Here's the link to the by pass. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A9...5800bhs+bypass
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The 3800 has HD radio too. It really seems like a good deal.

It's annoying I have to spend another 45 for the XM module. 40 for the steering wheel controls. 15 for the bypass. And probably more for the harness to hook it up I'm guessing.
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Ok so here is some background. I had a 2012 JKU and I put Polk 6.5's in the sound bar, a kenwood 1000 watt amp, and two JL 10's. Stock HU

The difference in sound the Polk's made alone was amazing to me. They had no amp, they just ran off of the stock HU

Fast forward and now I have a 2016 JKU. I still have the kenwood amp and two JL's.

I think I want an aftermarket HU though and I'm leaning toward the pioneer AVH-X3800BHS

I got the Pioneer AVH-4700BHS

Few questions.

-what back up camera and wire should I get with it? Amazon recommended one that was $22. I'm totally ignorant in regards to backup cams so will almost anyone do?

I got this camera Esky Rear View camera You gotta connect the power to the reverse light circuit to power it and run a video cable from the back to the head unit

-since my Polk's sounded great to me running off the stock HU shouldn't they sound even better with the pioneer? Should I get another amp to run them? The wiring seems like it would be a pain

The can play louder and clearer with another amp running them. When did wiring was ever not a pain?

-is there any trick I need to do to watch the dvd (for my daughter on trips) while the vehicle is in motion? Like some module that I need to instal preferably while I'm installing the unit the first time.

You can order the micro bypass Amazon.com : MicroBypass ALL AVH-X Video In Motion Interface for Select Pioneer Receivers : Vehicle Audio Video Accessories And Parts : Electronics You gotta hook up three wires (batt, ground, and amp turn on wire to it)

-any other tricks or tips with this head unit?

Got to remove the metal bracket that holds the back of the HU. Its just two 7mm bolts. You can trim the bottom so it will be able to accommodate the new head unit or you can leave it out to create more space for the wires but it will cause more wear where the front of the head unit bolts up to the plastic. Also gotta trim the top plastic a lil bit in order for the head unit to fit

Should I swap out the tweeters in the dash? If so do they have a low pass filter on them? Are they special? Or can I just pick up a set that fits?

Best if you buy components speakers for the front. Certain speakers come with a crossover (lil or big box) where you have to find a place for it. Some have an inline crossover (more like a capacitor size) where it doesn't come with a lil or big box.


I planning on mounting the amp under the front seat either with the special amp mount made for the wrangler or just a thick piece of wood like the last time I did it. Is there a better spot? What if I end up getting another amp for the smaller speakers. Where does everyone put those?

If you off road a lot and water seems to enter your cabin. an under seat amp wouldn't be in your greatest interest. You can also elevate it. there is a spot under the steering wheel column but gotta make your own amp brackets and not really a good space for open airflow. Also another spot in the glove box area but also need to make your own mounts

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I installed the AVH-X3800-BHS in my 2015 wrangler a few weeks ago. Last night I put in some new switches, relays, LED flood lights, the microbypass, etc. The microbypass hasn't worked yet, so I'm not sure if the PAC adapter and microbypass together are drawing too much current from the power turn on lead (blue/white wire) like a reviewer I saw on Amazon (below). I'll update when I have more time to trouble shoot.

Amazon review:

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Originally Posted by T-Diddy April 28 2013
My microbypass worked perfectly with my new Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS for a few days until I found an issue with it... it won't work with the headlights on. Since the microbypass's 3 signals are 1.) Remote Turn-on 2.) Parking-brake signal and 3.) Ground, I'm not sure what would trigger the Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS to not allow video with the headlights on unless the newer units also have some logic related to the illumination signal going the headunit. Still need to troubleshoot this some more. It might just be a voltage drop since I'm also tying the Remote Turn-on to my power antenna signal and trying to use it to actually turn on my amp in the trunk.

Update (7 May 2013): I rewired my wires and everything works again. The Pioneer amp turn-on signal is limited to [email protected], but the Microbypass takes a small current draw to get working. It must have been my Rockford Fosgate amp or the powered antenna that was drawing more current. I now have the signal going to a relay so everything works as expected.
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https://youtu.be/QXWJmbYEOTI

Anyone with any questions about what I did, ask fast before I forget.
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Got the bypass ordered for my 2700. Seems you cannot run the RTA to set up the EQ unless the ground the PB line. Will post my findings as well on the draw and whether the headlights affect anything. Just for reference a Pioneer AVH 2700BS with a PAC adapter into a stock 2009 infinity system with the tweeter mod and the speaker mod.
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I installed a AVH-X3800BHS in my 2012 Wrangler sport a few moths ago and i'm extremely pleased with it. I am now planning my amp and speaker $$$$ saving. I also added the XM radio module to my X3800 and I just swapped my current subscription over to it. I chose the X3800 over the X5800 because it has the same exact features except the X5800 has a slightly larger motorized swing out screen. In a Jeep I wanted a simpler non motorized swing out screen, (just less thing for dust to mess up). I would also suggest on the front speaker to just get a good set of quality component speakers The 6.5" Polk's DB6501 up front and the Polk DB561 6.5" in the rear have great reviews and are probably the best setup for a jeep for the money. I'm planning on adding a good quality 5 channel amp and adding the polk DB 6501 components on front and the Polk 651 6.5" speakers in the sound bar and a 12" slim sub woofer in a custom box in the space behind the rear seat. I also eventually plan on adding the Pioneer Navigation module. If you look on YouTube there are videos on how to install new tweeters in the factors housing.
Here's what I have right now:
Pioneer AVH-X3800BHS
Axxess XSVI-6522-NAV (Interface module)
Axxess ASWC-1 (Steering wheel interface module)
AudioVox SXV300V1 (XM radio module)
MicroBypass (allows playing of DVD's while in motion)

I'm planning on adding the following in the next month or so:
Polk DB6501 6.5" components (front)
Polk DB651 6.5" speakers (sound bar)
Rockford Fosgate P1000X5 (amplifier)
Rockford Fosgate RFK4I (amp install kit)
Rockford Fosgate PEQ (bass remote control)
Pioneer AVIC-U260 (Navigation module)

Good Luck,.....
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My micrbypass works. In my infinite wisdom, I used the extra length of the green parking brake wire from the radio to extend the reverse signal wire from the PAC adapter to the radio (I confused the two greens in my harness). My microbypass was double pulsing the reverse input on the radio. It's all fixed now and working fine.
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Just an FYI, the Pioneer DVD decks without the motorized face will sit back about 1/2" from the dash bezel when installed with Metra or Xscorpion install brackets. If you try to flush mount the bracket against the side of the radio, the bracket gets pushed out and the dash bezel will not fit over the radio. I am trying to sand down the side of the Xscorpion brackets to narrow that measurement so I can get the radio to mount flush with the dash bezel.
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I used my dremel to cut out the inner corners of the mounts on the Metra brackets. Still not perfect.
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Once I get my sat box and install it I will see if I can get the other brackets modded so that I can get the face flush with the dash and pix will follow.

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