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Old 11-12-2015, 04:45 PM
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Midland CB Radio Feedback?

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I was looking at putting a CB into my Jeep for when I go offroading at a jamboree or club or basically anything that "mandates" it. I am a Ham operator and would rather save the space for a good Ham Radio, not a CB.

What are your thoughts on this CB?

http://www.amazon.com/Midland-75-822...words=cb+radio

It looks super small, I could mount it next to the shifter console area on my TJ and it won't take up any room.

Can I just wire it directly into the my fuse box on my Jeep and not worry about a cigarette lighter?

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It's the radio I use. It works well when wired to a true antenna, but is limited with the rubber ducky. You could cut the cigarette lighter adapter off I suppose and run it directly to a power source if you want. It's ok as just a handheld with batteries and the rubber ducky if you're in a small group trail riding. Overall I'm very impressed with mine. People hear me great, and I hear others just fine.

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It's the radio I use. It works well when wired to a true antenna, but is limited with the rubber ducky. You could cut the cigarette lighter adapter off I suppose and run it directly to a power source if you want. It's ok as just a handheld with batteries and the rubber ducky if you're in a small group trail riding. Overall I'm very impressed with mine. People hear me great, and I hear others just fine.
Thanks! Glad to hear someone else has one on here. I'm looking at it only for a jamboree situation and after I hit submit, I thought about cutting off the end option and just direct wiring... I had a duh moment.

I removed my lighter port when I redid my switches on my TJ. I put in newer style switches courtesy of some dremel work and then removed the lighter and put in a 2 port USB port.

This is what I got, except I removed it from the cluster and replaced the lighter alone

http://www.amazon.com/CHENBO-Digital...ual+usb+dc+12v

It looks like I will be ordering this soon!

Which external antenna do you used for this radio? I will end up having this as a permanent mount in my Jeep.

Does it also come with a clip/mount bracket for the unit to screw into something?

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I hooked mine up to a fire stick FS-3 (3ft) with the tuneable tip. I'm actually not sure about the bracket. Mine lives in my center council where I have a cigarette port in there. So if it came with a mounting bracket I don't remember.
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I hooked mine up to a fire stick FS-3 (3ft) with the tuneable tip. I'm actually not sure about the bracket. Mine lives in my center council where I have a cigarette port in there. So if it came with a mounting bracket I don't remember.
No worries. Thanks for the info! It looks like I will have another mini project to work on :-)

This makes me happy because then I can keep the CB footprint down in my jeep and get a nice Ham Radio that I can mount over the left side of my steering wheel.
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Good luck on the Ham radio. I haven't come up with a good ham radio yet. I carry a cheap baufeng HT until I can get something good for the jeep. It's really only good for listening. I can sometimes hit the local repeater but not consistently.
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Good luck on the Ham radio. I haven't come up with a good ham radio yet. I carry a cheap baufeng HT until I can get something good for the jeep. It's really only good for listening. I can sometimes hit the local repeater but not consistently.
Thanks! I carry a Baofeng BF-F8HP myself with a Nagoya NA-771 antenna. The antenna is way better than what comes with the Baofeng out of the box.

I keep looking around at dual and quad band Ham Radios for the Jeep. I might go the Baofeng/Pofung route seeing my HT works really well.
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I bought the Teraflex antenna mounts. They go behind the tail lights. I have my CB antenna on the drivers side and the HAM Antenna on the passenger side. I run a Yaesu FT-8800R. I bought the dual band because the Rubicon Trail is covered by a 70cm repeater.
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I bought the Teraflex antenna mounts. They go behind the tail lights. I have my CB antenna on the drivers side and the HAM Antenna on the passenger side. I run a Yaesu FT-8800R. I bought the dual band because the Rubicon Trail is covered by a 70cm repeater.
Thanks Scott!

I saw those Teraflex on Amazon. How are they for the antenna? It looks like you remove the tail light and mount the bracket underneath, correct?

I was thinking one on each side would make sense. One for Ham and one for CB.
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Thanks Scott!

I saw those Teraflex on Amazon. How are they for the antenna? It looks like you remove the tail light and mount the bracket underneath, correct?

I was thinking one on each side would make sense. One for Ham and one for CB.
Yup just unscrew the tail light. There also is a hole in in the mount to use a nut and bolt for more support.
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Midland and Uniden are the two brands I always recommend, that Midland should be a good choice.

But as with any mobile 2-way radio installation, you really should power that new CB directly from the battery instead of some random fuse location on the fuse panel. There are a lot of electrically noisy circuits in the fuse panel that can cause whine or static on the CB, powering directly from the battery is really the way to go.

And rather than actually connecting the battery's battery connector on the battery post, there's a lug under a small snap-off cover at the rear of the Power Distribution Center positioned directly in front of the battery you can connect to more easily. That will give you the cleanest and quietest source of power for any 2-way radio... especially a CB which is AM which is far more susceptible to noise than an FM 2m ham radio is.

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Midland and Uniden are the two brands I always recommend, that Midland should be a good choice.

But as with any mobile 2-way radio installation, you really should power that new CB directly from the battery instead of some random fuse location on the fuse panel. There are a lot of electrically noisy circuits in the fuse panel that can cause whine or static on the CB, powering directly from the battery is really the way to go.

And rather than actually connecting the battery's battery connector on the battery post, there's a lug under a small snap-off cover at the rear of the Power Distribution Center positioned directly in front of the battery you can connect to more easily. That will give you the cleanest and quietest source of power for any 2-way radio... especially a CB which is AM which is far more susceptible to noise than an FM 2m ham radio is.

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Thanks Jerry!
I think for the price and size, this one is the right choice. I have a power cable that is unused that is coming from a custom fuse box that I installed that currently controls fog, spot and light bar (2 of 3 are offroad only). If these devices aren't being used while the CB is on, will I still get interference? The fuse box is directly tied to the battery...

I hope this makes sense.
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Connecting the CB to the aftermarket fuse box you installed should be fine since none of the items you described are electrically noisy like a fuel pump can be. And if you have a choice, I would connect it to a point that doesn't shut the power off when you turn the ignition switch off. That way you can leave the CB on when the engine is off which is handy when you're offroad. Modern CBs don't draw enough power to cause concern it'd drain the battery if accidentally left on even over a couple weeks.
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Connecting the CB to the aftermarket fuse box you installed should be fine since none of the items you described are electrically noisy like a fuel pump can be. And if you have a choice, I would connect it to a point that doesn't shut the power off when you turn the ignition switch off. That way you can leave the CB on when the engine is off which is handy when you're offroad. Modern CBs don't draw enough power to cause concern it'd drain the battery if accidentally left on even over a couple weeks.
The good thing is the way this fuse box is built, the power is always running to the box. The way it is built is that there are 6 relays with fuses and 6 direct power fuses. The way I have the relays setup is that the power to the switches is coming from a engine on source (cigarette lighter), but otherwise, the wire I would send the power to the CB will be always on.

Good advice though. I'll keep you posted when I get and install it.

Now the question is, should I hold off the purchase and tell my wife I want this so it gives her something to shop for Christmas? :-)
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I am a Ham operator and would rather save the space for a good Ham Radio, not a CB.
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I keep looking around at dual and quad band Ham Radios for the Jeep. I might go the Baofeng/Pofung route seeing my HT works really well.
I decided to go with a dual band radio in my Jeep for the same reason as mentioned above: the Rubicon Trail is covered by a 70cm repeater. While 2M is very prolific, I have found some remote areas that I might go Jeeping that offer 70cm coverage but have spotty 2M coverage (if any at all). YMMV.

For a quality dual band radio, I recommend the Yaesu FT-7900R. It is very easy to operate (and manually program), it performs well, and the removable faceplate will make it very easy to mount in your Jeep. Provided you don't need crossband capability, I think it's hard to beat on value and performance. I have two FT7900s: one in my TJ, the other in my Suburban tow rig.

In my TJ, I mounted the radio itself to the kick panel in the footwell. The face is mounted to the windshield frame above/behind the sun visor. This makes it easy to see and manipulate the faceplate, while simultaneously keeping everything uncluttered and out of the way so as to not interfere with vehicular operation.

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I saw those Teraflex on Amazon. How are they for the antenna?

I was thinking one on each side would make sense. One for Ham and one for CB.
I am using a left side TeraFlex mount for my CB antenna, but I decided against using one for my ham antenna. I decided I wanted the ham antenna as far from the passenger compartment and any vertical metal as possible, so I placed that antenna (a Larsen NMO2/70B, which I also highly recommend) at the front of the driver's fender, next to the hood latch. You can see them both here:



This setup has proven to provide excellent operation for my Yaesu radio, which is why I suggest it.

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I have a Midland 75-822 I've been trying out in my Jeep. The Midland hand-held unit isn't a bad choice especially with the limited space and a place to mount a CB radio. Unfortunately the 75-822 only put out about 2.5 watts and the audio is very poor in my opinion.

I am considering a Stryker SR-89MC.

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CBs with everything in the mic can/usually are more of a PITA to use than a good conventional CB like the Uniden 520XL which usually even costs less. Not to mention when a mic goes bad, you can easily find an inexpensive replacement mic... even at a truckstop. Not so with an all-in-one like the Stryker or Cobra 75.

This particular radio is probably the most commonly purchased CB, it is darned near bulletproof and can be found for under $50.



Silvercreek, did you see any RVN time? I was there 69-70.
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Silvercreek, did you see any RVN time? I was there 69-70.
Yes I did. I was there from November '67 to Mar. '69 and then back again in early '72.
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You bectha! I was there from November '67 to Mar. '69
Welcome home brother. I was everywhere between Dong Ha in the north to Tay Ninh in the south with the 903rd Aeromedical Evac.
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Myself along with many of the folks I off-road with use the Midland 75-822 for the same reasons you stated - reduced footprint, portability, storage-ability in the center console. I also use a Cobra mic/speaker combo plugged into the 75-822 so that I don't press the channel buttons by mistake. I also use a properly tuned Firestick FS-3 antenna mounted to the upper tailgate hinge. I have been told the transmissions have been clear. I don't think you can go wrong with this unit, but it is all a matter of preference.
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I just ordered this CB yesterday Amazon.com: Midland 75-822 40 Channel CB-Way Radio: Electronics

So now I need to install an external antenna and run power directly from the battery?

How well will it work just the way it is? I see there is a small antenna with magnet, are those mobile antennas worth the money or should I do something more permanent?
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I have a Midland 75-822 I've been trying out in my Jeep. The Midland hand-held unit isn't a bad choice especially with the limited space and a place to mount a CB radio. Unfortunately the 75-822 only put out about 2.5 watts and the audio is very poor in my opinion.

I am considering a Stryker SR-89MC.

That's not a CB, that's a 10M ham radio.
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CBs with everything in the mic can/usually are more of a PITA to use than a good conventional CB like the Uniden 520XL which usually even costs less. Not to mention when a mic goes bad, you can easily find an inexpensive replacement mic... even at a truckstop. Not so with an all-in-one like the Stryker or Cobra 75. This particular radio is probably the most commonly purchased CB, it is darned near bulletproof and can be found for under $50. Silvercreek, did you see any RVN time? I was there 69-70.
I agree with Jerry on this one, matched with a good antenna, you can't go wrong with the 520. It has jacks in the back for a PA and external speaker which helps dramatically when the doors and top are off and you're trying to hear a transmission going down the highway.
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That's not a CB, that's a 10M ham radio.
X2, don't even consider modifying it so it could be used on the CB band.

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