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Old 12-07-2012, 09:35 PM
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Pioneer 3400bh

I just bought this unit. How do I connect the power to the ignition switch?

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Didn't it come with a wiring harness that you connect to your factory harness?

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Didn't it come with a wiring harness that you connect to your factory harness?
Yes but it has 1 long red wire that says ignition switch on it
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There should be a wiring adapter that you connect to the radio harness and should have a wire labeled "switched 12v" or something similar.
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There should be a wiring adapter that you connect to the radio harness and should have a wire labeled "switched 12v" or something similar.
Yes that's the red wire. Where do I connect it to

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All the radios I have installed, have the harness that came with the radio, then had to purchase an adapter harness that you wire from the radio harness and it plugs into the factory harness to keep you from cutting the factory harness. There would be a constant and a switched wire on each harness tht you would connect together between the radio and the aftermarket harness.
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All the radios I have installed, have the harness that came with the radio, then had to purchase an adapter harness that you wire from the radio harness and it plugs into the factory harness to keep you from cutting the factory harness. There would be a constant and a switched wire on each harness tht you would connect together between the radio and the aftermarket harness.
Thanks. This one is really weird. It came with a separate 12v wire. Oh we'll I'm going in to the shop to figure it out in the morning
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I agree with the Kolecter. I installed a Pioneer AVH-2500 yesterday and used a PAC audio RP4-CH11 to attach the Pioneer to the Jeep's wiring harness. There is a constant and switched wire from each side to splice together. If you got it from a place like Crutchfield, call them up and ask. I did not have a wire like that. Wish I could help you.

Once you get it working, you will love it. Sounds lots better than factory. Looks good in the dash. I was looking at the 3400 also, went with the 2500, because there are no HD radio stations around me.

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Thanks. This one is really weird. It came with a separate 12v wire. Oh we'll I'm going in to the shop to figure it out in the morning
I assume you got everything wired up??
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I assume you got everything wired up??
No. Had some electrical trouble. Said HOTOIL on the dash and wouldn't start. So I put it back together and had it towed to the dealer. What a nightmare
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Wow, I wonder what caused that?!

I'm all over the place looking for a new HU and the Pioneer 3400BH is one I'm looking at.
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Wow, I wonder what caused that?!

I'm all over the place looking for a new HU and the Pioneer 3400BH is one I'm looking at.
I have no idea. I'll find out Monday when they diagnose it.
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Out of curiosity, what year is your Wrangler, and what harness did you attempt to use? If you have a 2007+ Wrangler, you should have been using a data harness with the CAN-BUS module; they usually cost about $70-$150 depending on various options. If you purchased a cheap harness for around $10-$20 to connect into the Jeep, you would have had to run a separate 12 volt accessory wire, as the factory radio harness does not have one in it. This would explain what your "Ignition Switch" red wire was; since you didn't have the CAN-BUS module in place, you had no radio turn on. The harness' manufacturer intended you to connect the red wire to a 12 volt switched source with enough extra current to turn your radio on. Typically, you can find this wire at the ignition switch, but in the JK's ignition system, this wire is multi-plexed and low current. Tapping the red wire somewhere that it shouldn't have been could easily cause damage to sensitive modules and circuits in the JK. The switched power cigarette lighter socket is usually a safe bet for connecting things like this, though using the correct harness will save you this headache all together.
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That sucks, let us know what comes of it.
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Out of curiosity, what year is your Wrangler, and what harness did you attempt to use? If you have a 2007+ Wrangler, you should have been using a data harness with the CAN-BUS module; they usually cost about $70-$150 depending on various options. If you purchased a cheap harness for around $10-$20 to connect into the Jeep, you would have had to run a separate 12 volt accessory wire, as the factory radio harness does not have one in it. This would explain what your "Ignition Switch" red wire was; since you didn't have the CAN-BUS module in place, you had no radio turn on. The harness' manufacturer intended you to connect the red wire to a 12 volt switched source with enough extra current to turn your radio on. Typically, you can find this wire at the ignition switch, but in the JK's ignition system, this wire is multi-plexed and low current. Tapping the red wire somewhere that it shouldn't have been could easily cause damage to sensitive modules and circuits in the JK. The switched power cigarette lighter socket is usually a safe bet for connecting things like this, though using the correct harness will save you this headache all together.
When I bought the radio I just asked what I needed and he brought it out. Yeah it was a cheap one. He didn't give me options at all.

So where is the switched power cigarette lighter? It's a 2012
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That sucks, let us know what comes of it.
Will do
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Wow, I wonder what caused that?!

I'm all over the place looking for a new HU and the Pioneer 3400BH is one I'm looking at.
Check out the JVC-KW-NT700. I was looking at the Pioneer and went to an audio store and saw the JVC and was hooked. It's amazingly fast compared to any other unt the had. The sound is unbelieveable.

JVC KW-NT700 Navigation receiver at Crutchfield.com
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When I bought the radio I just asked what I needed and he brought it out. Yeah it was a cheap one. He didn't give me options at all.

So where is the switched power cigarette lighter? It's a 2012
You can attempt to use that harness if you insist, but I don't recommend it. Your Jeep will be missing a piece of the Data system, so you have a chance of throwing check engine lights and the like. If you want to use the harness, than you will need to connect the red wire to the blue/pink (if I recall correctly) wire that comes off the back of the switched power cigarette lighter socket. I would recommend fusing this line with a 5 amp fuse in series with your connection. Then, just be sure not to use anything other than a cell phone charger on your cigarette socket... some of the 15 amps it's rated to are now being used to turn on your stereo.
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You can attempt to use that harness if you insist, but I don't recommend it. Your Jeep will be missing a piece of the Data system, so you have a chance of throwing check engine lights and the like. If you want to use the harness, than you will need to connect the red wire to the blue/pink (if I recall correctly) wire that comes off the back of the switched power cigarette lighter socket. I would recommend fusing this line with a 5 amp fuse in series with your connection. Then, just be sure not to use anything other than a cell phone charger on your cigarette socket... some of the 15 amps it's rated to are now being used to turn on your stereo.
Thanks. I'm gonna take it back to get the right one as soon as I get her back from the dealer
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Check out the JVC-KW-NT700. I was looking at the Pioneer and went to an audio store and saw the JVC and was hooked. It's amazingly fast compared to any other unt the had. The sound is unbelieveable.

JVC KW-NT700 Navigation receiver at Crutchfield.com
Apparently that one is now Discontinued.
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Thanks for the suggestion wasssup. However, that unit is slightly outside of my budget on what I want to spend on ICE for the Jeep.

I just completed an order for the Pioneer AVH-X4500BT. I had a good experience with my Pioneer AVIC-Z120BT in another car so I'm giving Pioneer another try. PAC now has an adapter interface that includes steering wheel controls -- the PAC RP4-CH11.
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I just completed an order for the Pioneer AVH-X4500BT. I had a good experience with my Pioneer AVIC-Z120BT in another car so I'm giving Pioneer another try. PAC now has an adapter interface that includes steering wheel controls -- the PAC RP4-CH11.
That's a nice looking unit. I went with the new PAC on my install too.
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Apparently that one is now Discontinued.
No wonder I got such a good price on it.
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No wonder I got such a good price on it.
I'll buy something thats discontinued if it meets my needs and my budget.

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