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Old 12-09-2009, 10:44 PM
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Post up your sub boxes!

Ok, so summer of '08 I got a '00 TJ. I am a stereo guy and the first thing I did was install a decent stereo with a sub. I had never built a box before and wanted to give it a try. It's worked good so far, but it's just not quite enough. I am currently running a single Soundstream 10" sub, 500watts rms dual 4ohm in series off of a 400watt rms Audiobahn amp (the amp is going bye bye soon in favor of a bigger Soundstream amp...plus Audiobahn sucks!). I am wanting to put a second 10 in my Jeep, but I have an Instatrunk that I would really like to keep. My box and amp (amp is mounted to the side of the box) are currently under the Instatrunk. (Sorry for the long speech, lmao)

I was wondering if anybody could help me get ideas for my new sub setup by posting a pic or two of theirs.

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first find out how much space is needed inside the box, there should be something in the owners manual on how much space you need to utilize the performance of your sub. and as for audiobahn sucking, you are way off on that one. i run a 10" audiobahn immortal sub running on a hifonix hercules amp, and i guarantee that it is a hell of a lot louder and clean sounding than any soundstream will ever sound.

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i have 2 10'' Kenwood 1225's and a Rockford Prime 500 amp.. Downward facing where my seats used to be.. built a custom box to form over the fenders and stuff, looks stock.

i love it. i'll get pictures pretty soon

PS - Audiobahn is amazing, its no JL.. but in my opinion, second best.
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From my experience, Audiobahn is good for those who like a lot of deep bass...but it doesn't sound crisp and clean for those who like tight clean bass hits. Audiobahn is great for slower rap/hip-hop songs IMO.

I had 2 10" Elemental Designs 11Kv.2's (10") in my old truck...loved them. Not a lot of boom with the way I had em setup, but sounded really crisp and clean. Perfect for the rock/country/metal I listen to
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From my experience, Audiobahn is good for those who like a lot of deep bass...but it doesn't sound crisp and clean for those who like tight clean bass hits. Audiobahn is great for slower rap/hip-hop songs IMO.
the reason it doesn't sound crisp is because people skimp out on getting the right amp for the sub, my sub hits hard and fast
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The audiobahn 12 I used to run matched my amp perfectly. It was a 400watt rms sub (can't remember the model number off the top of my head) dual 4 ohm vc running off of a 400 watt rms amp. It hit decently, but I went through them like crazy without being super hard on them. I've had my 2 Soundstream 10's and they hit way harder than my Audiobahn ever did. I've never had a bad experience with Soundstream, but blown 2 Audiobahn 12's in a years time (nothing really crazy...Akon cd the second time) and the amp fan makes alot of noise. And my Soundstreams are really clear subs (no distortion even when hitting HARD). So I'll stick with Soundstream.

As far as airspace, they require (at optimum efficiency) .75 square feet.

The main reason for this thread was I wanted to see how other people have done their sub boxes in their Wranglers to get ideas for mounting location, design, ported, sealed, bandpass or whatever.
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the low end audiobahns sound like crap no matter what amp you have, i have the immortal by audiobahn its one hell of an amazing sub, its got so much power it lessens the nuts holding my spare tire on, along with most of the hardware holding my soft to in place. most of there subs around that rms rating are not that great. there are many companies that work the same way. the only audiobahn equipment i have is there subs and amps, everything else doesn't hold up the the audiobahn standard.
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This is pretty cool for saving space
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i did this, it is a great place to put a box. but you need shallow mount subs, ones that are less than 4" deep
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i did this, it is a great place to put a box. but you need shallow mount subs, ones that are less than 4" deep
I thought it was pretty neat I'm just not into subs that much any more or I would try that
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first find out how much space is needed inside the box, there should be something in the owners manual on how much space you need to utilize the performance of your sub. and as for audiobahn sucking, you are way off on that one. i run a 10" audiobahn immortal sub running on a hifonix hercules amp, and i guarantee that it is a hell of a lot louder and clean sounding than any soundstream will ever sound.

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I never thought I'd say it, but that might just be a little bit too much bass. It shouldn't move your clothes like that.
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That Setup Was Particularly Used For SPL Purposes Only And Was A Test Vehicle For Pete Kulicki, He Did However Do An Install With Two Ascendant Audio Avalanche 15"s That Was SQ Based In One Of His Prototype Enclosures.

I Believe He Still Has That Vehicross. But, To Me, There Is Never "Too Much" When It Comes To Car Audio. In Reality, That Vehicle Isn't THAT Loud.

Hope To Be A Helpful Member In The Audio Section Of This Forum And Wherever Else I Can, Pretty Sure I Could Shed Some Light On Things.
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Wow that was a flash back for me to my high school days. I used to have a ford taurus with 15 speakers and competed SQ in USAC. Back in the day I had Soundstream Reference series amps, 3 12's in the trunk, Clarion components everywhere, the Clarion CD head unit that had the dolphins jumping display, Clarion 920 graphic in dash EQ all custom installed and thought I was hot shit since that was all top of the line.

That was when Soundstream was actually manufactured in the States and made a great product and Clarion was top of the line. God its been ages.
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Good to see other supporters of Soundstream on here! BigCProductions99, looks like you have a pretty nice stereo! Thats cool. Anyway, I've been figuring out what to do and I've decided I'm gonna remove the trunk deal, do dual 10" Soundstream rw subs dual 4 ohm vc, 500watts rms each running off of a Sounstream TRX1000d sub in a 3 cubic foot ported box. I'll post pics as soon as I get it started.
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thats just for competition events, im talking about a system that the normal person would have. dollar for dollar audiobahn is the better choice imo.
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I've build a custom (sealed) box for two 12" Eclipse Titanium subs facing downward with a JL Audio 1000 watt RMS amp mounted on the back. It tucks right up against my add-a-trunk. I tried to design the box low enough so I could build a rear cover/shelf to put on top someday should I want to have more storage. I ran some 0 gauge wire from my batteries up front down the passenger frame to the rear corner and ended it with a warn style 175amp quick connect which I can then connect to my amp, 1200 watt power inverter, or my jumper cables which I have cut 24" from one end and spliced in a pair of connectors so I can jump vehicles from the rear of my Jeep, or power my inverter from a pair of jumper cables should I need to. I'll try to scare up a couple pictures if anyone's interested. I also painted the box black so it blends in with the rear of the jeep to keep prying eyes away. Not like it's really that easy to remove the box + amp from the jeep.
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thats just for competition events, im talking about a system that the normal person would have. dollar for dollar audiobahn is the better choice imo.
why would that be just for competition event? there are people out there that like that much bass. I actually do like that much bass. I prefer a little less because those XXX15's are insane. I've sat in a buddys extra cab s10 that had to Fi 18's ub against the back seat. The box was floor to roof and back wall to seat. It would rattle your chest hardcore! I loved it.

Anyway, I've made me decision on my box and such. I'm building a 1.72 cu ft sealed single chamber box for my 2 Soundstream RW10's (500watts RMS ea.) running off of a TRX1000D amp. Probably gonna even get a Stinger 2 Farad cap for the system. Next is the TRX4.640 4 channel amp for my component speakers.
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You realize you can give yourself heart palpitations from running that much bass in a vehicle right? Not to mention hearing loss...

It's all fun and games joking about temporary loss of hearing from stereo systems and other stuff...but coming from someone who has pretty significant hearing loss due to not wearing ear plugs when necessary, loud headphones and car audio systems, numerous rock concerts, etc...it's not so fun anymore. It really sucks whenever somebody says something to me, my usual response is, "What?" ...and knowing that I'm only 23 years old and it's only going to go downhill from here.
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You realize you can give yourself heart palpitations from running that much bass in a vehicle right? Not to mention hearing loss...

It's all fun and games joking about temporary loss of hearing from stereo systems and other stuff...but coming from someone who has pretty significant hearing loss due to not wearing ear plugs when necessary, loud headphones and car audio systems, numerous rock concerts, etc...it's not so fun anymore. It really sucks whenever somebody says something to me, my usual response is, "What?" ...and knowing that I'm only 23 years old and it's only going to go downhill from here.
In my younger days I was always dropping the bass in my rides.
Also numerous concerts.
Now I'm 38 and have a constant hissing or ringing in my ears. Tinnitus I believe it's called. I've gotten used to it but it's always there, especially when in a quiet place. Nowadays I don't care about what I thought was impressing the whole block and I like my stock stereo with bass and treble in the middle.
I also believe that mp3 players are gonna lead to a lot of hearing problems in younger people.
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In my younger days I was always dropping the bass in my rides.
Also numerous concerts.
Now I'm 38 and have a constant hissing or ringing in my ears. Tinnitus I believe it's called. I've gotten used to it but it's always there, especially when in a quiet place. Nowadays I don't care about what I thought was impressing the whole block and I like my stock stereo with bass and treble in the middle.
I also believe that mp3 players are gonna lead to a lot of hearing problems in younger people.
Yep... I often wake up with a ringing sound in my ears. My friend is an idiot and likes to shoot his guns without ear protection. He fired his .44 magnum from about 6 feet away from me before I could cover my ears and I spent the next 24 hours with a constant ringing in my ears. Thankfully it went away.

MP3 players/headphone use in general has been known to cause a lot of ear problems... main problem is the sound levels most people listen to their music at. That alone is hell on your ears. But having them covered/having ear buds blocking them also promotes bacteria growth and wax production in your ears which is just prime conditions for a pretty nasty infection.
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I already have some hearing loss. It sucks, but oh well; This is what I like to do.

Anyway, new box is built. I built one that i screwed up somewhere and it ended up being too big. It was beyond repair so I built a second one. It is just a sealed wedge style box. 3/4" MDF, 1.492 cu ft with the 2 Soundstream RW10's down firing. I ended up just doing a common chamber for the two subs, rather than a sealed chamber for each and I'm happy with it. It rattles my whole Jeep. It give ya a nice back massage! You should hear Intergalactic by the Beastie Boys in it!

Anyway, I'm still going to do body work on it and paint it to match my Jeep in single stage Everglade Green Pearl. I'll post pics as soon as it's done.

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