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Old 09-30-2019, 02:49 PM
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Thoughts on converting a 10m to an 11m CB

From what I have seen there are several 10m Ham radios that can be easily converted to run on the 11m band. Other than legal issues, being able to transmit at 25+ watts rather than the FCC allowed 4 watts and cost of the unit being about $100+ rather than $50 or less for an entry level CB, what are the pro's and con's?

Just thinking out loud--one con would be that I would smash everyone in my group.

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Easily sure, Legally NO
Personally I can't believe the mods haven't deleted this yet.
Any 10m Radio you are getting for $100 is used, before you throw your hard earned money on it get its FULL history if you can, who did the current owner get it from, who did they get it from.
Used Electronics are a very tricky game unless you know how to work on them.
And don't believe anything anyone tells you power wise unless they have a meter that can show you the truth.


Personally, save the $100 and get a good little actual CB radio then hunt for a Liner Amp.
They still make them and much easier than doing a chip swap on a 10m.
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CB is pretty much useless for any thing but close range communication most of the time no matter how many watts you transmit. You might be able to talk around the world [SKIP] but what good is it if you cant hear around the block. IMO a good FMRS system is a better choice or better yet just bite the bullet and get a 10M ticket which will give you access to many 10M repeaters.
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You listed all the cons;
illegal to do, power output is too high, more expensive.
There are no pro's.

So why bother?
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There are no upsides to trying this.

It's illegal. It won't make it any easier to hear everyone else. You'll piss off everyone by transmitting at power levels that are way too high.

Just get a CB if you're going to talk over the CB channels.
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Easily sure, Legally NO
Personally I can't believe the mods haven't deleted this yet.
Any 10m Radio you are getting for $100 is used, before you throw your hard earned money on it get its FULL history if you can, who did the current owner get it from, who did they get it from.
Used Electronics are a very tricky game unless you know how to work on them.
And don't believe anything anyone tells you power wise unless they have a meter that can show you the truth.


Personally, save the $100 and get a good little actual CB radio then hunt for a Liner Amp.
They still make them and much easier than doing a chip swap on a 10m.
Just to correct some assumptions you have made...
Here is a NEW $60 10M 15W radio that can be converted to 11M by simply un-soldering a jumper and then applying solder to another.
https://www.amazon.com/AnyTone-Smart...=1569955339744

Here is exactly how it is done...
https://wayalife.com/showthread.php/...rsion-Write-Up

Also I'm not sure why you think the mods should delete this? How is asking about converting a 10M to 11M to transmit at a higher than legal wattage any different than you advocating the use of a liner amp--which does the exact same thing?

I stumbled across this while looking for a CB that has a detachable/remote face--which I still have not found.
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Here is another interesting choice.
Not as powerful and capable of being FCC compliant---or not if you so choose to.
Also a 10M that converts to 11M.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F53EBK6...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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Just to correct some assumptions you have made...
Here is a NEW $60 10M 15W radio that can be converted to 11M by simply un-soldering a jumper and then applying solder to another.
https://www.amazon.com/AnyTone-Smart...=1569955339744

Here is exactly how it is done...
https://wayalife.com/showthread.php/...rsion-Write-Up

Also I'm not sure why you think the mods should delete this? How is asking about converting a 10M to 11M to transmit at a higher than legal wattage any different than you advocating the use of a liner amp--which does the exact same thing?

I stumbled across this while looking for a CB that has a detachable/remote face--which I still have not found.

You realize where the Anytones come from correct?
Not saying they won't work but go ahead and buy one, good luck with the frequency divisions.
And for the record the Anytones are a great radio, in the UK, I have talked to several using them and they sound great.
Did I assume anything there?


I'm not trying to sound like an ass, I'm really not, but you are entering a dangerous area so be prepared to meet a fair amount of resistance.
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There are no upsides to trying this.

It's illegal. It won't make it any easier to hear everyone else. You'll piss off everyone by transmitting at power levels that are way too high.

Just get a CB if you're going to talk over the CB channels.
I hadn't thought about the fact that I could be transmitting much further than I can hear and inadvertently be stepping on someone. Good point!
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You realize where the Anytones come from correct?
Not saying they won't work but go ahead and buy one, good luck with the frequency divisions.
And for the record the Anytones are a great radio, in the UK, I have talked to several using them and they sound great.
Did I assume anything there?


I'm not trying to sound like an ass, I'm really not, but you are entering a dangerous area so be prepared to meet a fair amount of resistance.
Yea, AnyTone is probably made right across the street from Baofung.

What's the story on the frequency divisions? Are you saying that the Channel frequencies could be off so CH 1 may not be 26.965?
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I hadn't thought about the fact that I could be transmitting much further than I can hear and inadvertently be stepping on someone. Good point!
It's a lot like shouting in a library.

Don't be that guy.

And do yourself a favor. Don't waste time on wayalife.
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CB radio wattages are limited for a technical reason, not because the FCC wants to be an asshole. The more power an AM (CB is AM) transmitter puts out, the wider its signal which means the radio can bleed over into adjacent channels. That means it can interfere with other CB users on other channels.

I've had way too many CB'rs with higher than legal power radios (or linears) interfere with my legal use of my radio when they bleed over into my channel from the channel they're transmitting. To say it pisses me off would be an understatement.

Stay legal with a legal CB as was advised to you multiple times above.
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Just to be clear. The whole reason I was even looking at going this route was NOT for extra wattage but trying to find a CB with a remote face. Unable to find a CB, I started looking at Ham radios that had 11M AM capability, since having a remote face is more common with Ham radios. Being able to convert from 10M to 11M appears to be a feature of many Chinese 10M Export radios.

And before any one suggests it, I'm not a fan of the Cobra 75.

To get what I really want I may just hack up a Cobra 19...But if I can find something that is already done, I think that would be better.
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Also check these guys out
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I stumbled across this [Anytone] while looking for a CB that has a detachable/remote face--which I still have not found.
The only CB with a detachable face of which I am aware is the now discontinued Midland 79-290. I have one. It is (was) a very good radio that I purchased new-in-the-box from Brad Kilby 20 years ago.

Unfortunately mine needs to be repaired and it was easier and cheaper to buy another radio when I discovered that the CB shop I used to patronize had gone out of business. I should probably pull it out of my box of spare parts and find a new radio technician so I can put it back into service.

BTW, these can tuned up in power to +/- 15 watts and can easily be modified to work 10m AM and the "freeband" frequencies, but as a licensed ham I never did the mods because the radio would not be FCC compliant.



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The Mr Bills, holy crap dude I love your videos!!!!
I know its a lot of work and not easy but keep it up
Teach these kids a few of your good ole tricks
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The Mr Bills, holy crap dude I love your videos!!!!
I know its a lot of work and not easy but keep it up
Teach these kids a few of your good ole tricks
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Mr. Bill is the guy with the videos. Different dude.

But thanks anyway.

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Thanks for all of the input.
I think I found the CB for my rig. I am seriously considering the President Bill. It doesn't have a remote face but is so small it really doesn't matter. this will leave me plenty of room to mount a dual band 70cm/2M and it not look like a police car. I like to keep my electronics very modest in order to deter thieves.
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At 4.02" W x 3.94 D x 0.98 H, the "President Bill" is certainly small.

My Uniden Pro520XL, which is generally considered a small CB, measures 4.5 W x 6.75 D x 1.375 H.

Let us know how the install works out and how the radio performs.

If you want a "micro" dual band ham radio, search Ebay and other sources for the Yaesu FT-90r. They have been discontinued for many years, but still have quite a following due to the small size. They measure 3.9 W x 5.4 D x 1.2 H.

I have and use the FT-90 I purchased in 2002 and another that I purchased last year. Both work great but the second was purchased as a "parts radio" just in case.

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