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Old 09-03-2017, 02:46 PM
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Is there a jeep saturation point for you?

Since the introduction of the JKU it seems there has been an explosion of jeeps on the road. Production sells out every year at something like 180,000 units. I read they want the JL to sell at least 250,000 units a year. Plus who knows how many JT's. With no FJ cruiser or Hummer anymore the options for another brand don't exist much. For those who really need an offroad or rockcrawler vehicle there's not much choice, but for the other 90%, at what point has the coolness saturation point been reached and the sheer numbers make it a turn off?
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The way I see it, the more jeeps on the road the more vendors making more accessories for our jeeps. And that's a good thing for everyone.
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Coolness saturation???

As Ike Turner said "It ain't cool 'till say it's cool".
Some folks might buy a Wrangler because they think it might make them cool.

Coolness starts in your heart and works it way out. You can't "get" cool, you can only be cool. Buying accessories from a hat to a Wrangler just to look cool only makes a person look like a DB.

If I wanted a JK or a JKU, I'd buy one and coolness be damned.

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I agree with jeep670. If there's a market, the manufacturers will make a product.
Too bad for us YJ owners, the market is dwindling.

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Not at all. I do not care how many there are. In fact I would not care if every vehicle on the road was a JK or JL. Just because someone drives the exact rig as me does not mean they will take it to the same places I take mine.
Heck I want a ford pickup and look at how many of those are produced.
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On a related note, I feel the market is super-saturated with those angry eyes things.


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When my Jeep return-wave percentage drops below 50%, I think I will have reached the point of saturation.

It's currently around 75% for me.
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Cool jeeps ended with the TJ, the jeep brand has been dead for 10 years it is no longer a unique vehicle when every obese soccer mom has one.
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Jeep saturation....come vistit Cape Cod....I see at least 10 Wranglers, and 30+ Jeep "other" products just on my way to and from work. (About 5 miles)
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When my Jeep return-wave percentage drops below 50%, I think I will have reached the point of saturation.

It's currently around 75% for me.
This past weekend I was at about 10%, By the end of the weekend I was

Then there are some days where I'm at a solid 80%. Weird. Had a real old guy throw me a wave. Surprised he could still drive.
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Yeah, I've had several of those 10% days. Lots of confused stares from soccer moms and businessy-looking guys closing big important businessy deals on their cell phones.
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Austin, Texas has more Jeeps per capita than anywhere else, I promise you that!
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Cool jeeps ended with the TJ, the jeep brand has been dead for 10 years it is no longer a unique vehicle when every obese soccer mom has one.
CLEARLY you are incorrect. THIS is a damn cool Jeep;

AND If it were not for those soccer moms, those of us who want to build cool new rigs would be SOL.....

If you lack the imagination to make your Jeep unique, it is your fault....

Jeeps have a great future if they do not screw up the next version
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CLEARLY you are incorrect. THIS is a damn cool Jeep;

AND If it were not for those soccer moms, those of us who want to build cool new rigs would be SOL.....

If you lack the imagination to make your Jeep unique, it is your fault....

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Cool jeeps ended with the TJ, the jeep brand has been dead for 10 years it is no longer a unique vehicle when every obese soccer mom has one.


Personally thought the TJ blows. For me the CJ was the last great Jeep until the JK/JKU arrived. Why I waited so long.

Let’s not even talk about a YJs!

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Austin, Texas has more Jeeps per capita than anywhere else, I promise you that!


Miami also high. I see 20-30 Wranglers daily on a 12 mike commute. There is a in SFLA.


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Personally thought the TJ blows. For me the CJ was the last great Jeep until the JK/JKU arrived. Why I waited so long.

Let’s not even talk about a YJs!

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That's it sir! How dare you throw out an opinion like that! You offended me! I love YJ's and TJ's. I quit.
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I don't get saturated by seeing Jeeps and there are lots in Arizona. I am just thankful I don't have to see a sea of Prii like I did when I was in LA, many of those drivers are lunatics on the road.

I hit my Jeep saturation point at the end of each summer which is my off road off-season and I spent too much time doing mods in preparation for the winter wheeling season. I have parts sitting in the garage that are going to have to wait until next year, burned out, saturated, whatever you want to call it. Now the weather is finally in the low to mid 90s consistently and I am ready for camping and wheeling fun for the next 5 months.
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Calm down, your acting like a dog lifted its leg on your "rockstars". Damn Bruh.


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Personally thought the TJ blows. For me the CJ was the last great Jeep until the JK/JKU arrived. Why I waited so long.

Let’s not even talk about a YJs!

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Early CJ's were good the later ones were pretty crappy the SR4/5 and T4/5 trannies were pretty bad but not as bad as the BA10. The early YJ's were pretty damn bad and they got a bad wrap because of it but by the end they were solid jeeps. They had much better and stronger frames than the CJ's and a slightly stronger high pinion D30. The AX15 is the best transmission used by jeep in the past 30+ years. The NP231 was decent and holds up well and easy to upgrade and served YJ's and TJ's well.

The Dana 35 sucked but so did the AMC 20. The only thing jeep got right was the Dana 48 in the JK but it's 5" to wide and almost full size so i don't even have a use for them. The JK is basically a fullsize 1/2 ton and came from the factory with like 32" tires compared to YJ and TJ's the came with 26's so it's not surprising they beefed the axles up when compared with the 1/4 ton jeeps.
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Austin, Texas has more Jeeps per capita than anywhere else, I promise you that!
Not doubt about that. I hadn't noticed until I got my JKUR last year and after that it seems like every swinging d*ck in the city has one!
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Austin, Texas has more Jeeps per capita than anywhere else, I promise you that!
I was driving down I-35 from San Marcos to New Braunfels last week, plus some other roads in that area. There were Jeeps all over the place.
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Its way easier to find a used jeep in good shape these days. Way more city jeeps to choose from and bring home and use them for their intended purpose(for me).
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Hey youngin’s

This is what disgusted, even made me angry my youth, the 1970’s!

Commonly refered to as ‘Titty Pink’ Or unmanly man Fagget Jeep. Not to be demeaning in here, it was what it was for that period of time.

My Mom, she was a gorgeous gal, she loved to drive those pink jeeps around to be noticed.
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Not sure about that, I have liked every Jeep since my 1987 Renegade. The only version I did not own was the square headlight YJ and I was still glad they made Jeeps - for a time it was thought that this line was going to go away. THAT would have sucked.
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I'll always have the uniqueness of a Wrangler with square headlights.
Like the new ones too. Their value I think it's debatable.
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As a jeep owner since the 1960’s... I am thinking I personally have become saturated if not overly Saturated with Jeep.

My explaination; In the 1960’s an explorer would comonly see untouched old minors cabins (Actual Mining claims), huntings cabins, broken down desert vessels of every sort here and there with no valdalisum, bullet holes, busted windows, as the old desert dwellers had to walk or hike back to their humble dugout or whatever. Many were old minors WW2 war vets seeking their fortune in their diggings and... I suspect most wanted to be left alone.

As a young pup I and my pops would stop await the invite, follow the old fart into his digs for a sit-down snort of some such barf called Hooch always making me run from the area an throw my guts up as both my pops and the old shit laughed so hard they cried. The historical aspects of the land right here in my county have all but disappeared. Few if any could give three sheets to the wind about whom or what once roamed these here parts. No thought ever given while group sitting around campfire to the bones of Benny Grey, alone with his Mule Train that long ago turned to dust just underneath this newage group campers.

2018? Virtually nothing IS LEFT to explore. It boils down to places I have been many times only they still reside because caretakers reside there.

I recently had a discussion with my wife. Alternative living in junk RV’s of every make and model have become common place everywhere state/Federal/County patrol does not frequent. Trash, feces, DOGS unlished, nummerous blue water barrels extra propane tanks, I am old but my eye’s show me, my brain is wise to what is happening at an alarming rate.

So many out of the way places I reconned intending to camp alone, unhindered, free of piles of dirty baby diapers, trash alone once prestine creeks, fulltimers over staying camp sites well into months, does not make my heart well.

Worse, is seeing soap suds building up in stream beds.

It breaks my heart.

Visiting Group camp sites. Here are my findings.

Jeepers, UTV folks, all merely brag all about there highly mortgaged to the hilt performace this— nagging others “if you’er gonna keep up with us son—YOUR gonna need 42’s an an an an .... this and that lift all costing thousands of dollars.

An yet. No-one gives one shit about the dudes shy/nervous wife making over her three young-ins in total silence. As she sets there, thinking, my living room has one couch, grandma gave it too us (But the dog ate-ripped out the whole one side now its got to be stuffed with old blankets-covered with the couch cushion). Our TV came curtesy Uncle Fred. Our bedroom furnature Salvation Army. Her cloths, kids clothes, Walmart, off the sales rack. {In affect men—She HAS NOTHING] except what she brought after she married you.

For me, I’m 50/50 being done with all of it. We all over time must make our own decisions what, or how we spend our available money.

Just my thoughts is all.

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