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Old 04-23-2019, 11:14 PM
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What SPORTS CARS do Jeepers buy?

I guess I'm hitting that middle aged crisis and want a sports car for the summer and keep my Jeep for commuting and in the winter. I have a hard-on for the new Camaro (and Corvette if I could afford), slightly interested in a Challenger RT (I think they are too big and heavy to be a sports car), Nissan 370Z, Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86.


I have a leg up on the competition with GM and Chrysler as I have employee pricing available from family members, so these are the ones I'm going to look at first.



Test drove a Camaro RS V6 and was impressed, lots of HP in that little engine, haven't tested a 455hp V8 yet but I'm sure if I buy a Camaro, it'll be the V8. Lots of incentives right now if paying cash.





So I guess I'm asking what sports car Jeepers have... and what they would buy if they are looking for a quick 2 door coupe in 2019/2020.
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Here are the last three that I have owned. Still have the Viper but wish I had kept the Cobra.



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Bikes, can be less expensive, note I said can be...
I think you'll find a few Jeeple with bikes also, if you like the open air it helps
I've had bikes for years and wanted something with bumpers and open air, so Jeep
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my summer toy. :d
gt3?

Beautiful cars.

The Viper was my retirement gift to myself. Originally wanted to buy back my old Cobra as it was for sale at that time, but my senior bride insisted that whatever I got it had to have a top and A/C.

Looked at a couple GT3's but they were out of the price range I could justify since I was retiring. However to me the GT3, and GT2 are true driver cars. Not a lot of driver aids, are rear wheel drive and are manual transmissions.

And they are kind of a stealth vehicle. The majority of people see one and think, oh it's a Porsche and do not realize what it truly is.

I envy you sir.
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I got it out of my system 29 years ago. I bought a new Trans Am GTA back in 1990 . I still have it. 100% stock.

It's been collecting dust in my garage for the last few years. I was just thinking of putting it back on the road this summer.

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I got it out of my system 29 years ago. I bought a new Trans Am GTA back in 1990 . I still have it. 100% stock.

It's been collecting dust in my garage for the last few years. I was just thinking of putting it back on the road this summer.


1990 TA's were low production, I'd say to sell it (probably get good money for it if it's in good shape) and get something more modern and faster...
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Thats one hell of a car WW. Stunning!

I was in Pfaff Porsche in Vaughan, ON and although everything was beautiful, my 9 to 5 money won't stretch that far. Took a few pics though... one can dream.






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Thats one hell of a car WW. Stunning!
Thanks man! It's really a dream come true.

Funny thing... I took it out of winter storage on Sunday and went out for a half hour drive after spending all day working on the Jeep.

I came back reminded of why most of my mileage is at the race track and how frustrating it is to drive on the street. A quick stab of the throttle and you're suddenly at "lose your license and get your car impounded" speeds.

I took it out again this morning to go for a track inspection and, surprisingly, being stuck in traffic made it WAY more fun. Playing around in 2nd and 3rd gears up over 6k RPM never gets old!!

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I was in Pfaff Porsche in Vaughan, ON and although everything was beautiful, my 9 to 5 money won't stretch that far. Took a few pics though... one can dream.
It took me nearly 20 years of working and quite a bit of mental gymnastics for me to take the leap. I'm definitely not your average Porsche buyer but it was worth the sacrifice.

I was there this morning for my inspection and took this pic.
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I guess I'm hitting that middle aged crisis and want a sports car for the summer and keep my Jeep for commuting and in the winter. I have a hard-on for the new Camaro (and Corvette if I could afford), slightly interested in a Challenger RT (I think they are too big and heavy to be a sports car), Nissan 370Z, Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86.


I have a leg up on the competition with GM and Chrysler as I have employee pricing available from family members, so these are the ones I'm going to look at first.



Test drove a Camaro RS V6 and was impressed, lots of HP in that little engine, haven't tested a 455hp V8 yet but I'm sure if I buy a Camaro, it'll be the V8. Lots of incentives right now if paying cash.





So I guess I'm asking what sports car Jeepers have... and what they would buy if they are looking for a quick 2 door coupe in 2019/2020.
Not a sports car, but I love it.



As for a Toyota 86. It's boring as hell. I have a 2019 86 GT and it's getting traded in. No power. Passing someone takes ages, and becomes unstable at highway speed with any sort of cross wind.

EDIT: The Toyota costs 200 more a year than the Hemi for insurance.
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Yep.
I love the GT3 and GT2 Porsche's. True drivers cars. Limited drivers aids, rear wheel drive (as god intended) and a proper manual transmission.

The Viper was my retirement gift to myself. I really wanted to buy back my Cobra that just so happened to be for sale at that time. However my senior bride insisted that whatever I bought it had to have a functioning top and A/C. The Viper was as close as I could come to a Cobra and satisfy her. I have to admit she was pretty good about the Cobra as we took a month long vacation in it one year and the only time she had issues was when it got over 105 in central California.

I did look at a couple GT3's but since I was retiring I just could not justify the additional cost.

As it is I envy you sir. Beautiful car.
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I had a Corvette for 4 and a half years, but found I really didn't use the horsepower it had. I tended to drive it like an economy car. It could get 30 mpg on the highway. It also worked as a snow car

If I buy another sports car it will have less HP and be a light weight nimble vehicle.
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I had a Corvette for 4 and a half years, but found I really didn't use the horsepower it had. I tended to drive it like an economy car. It could get 30 mpg on the highway. It also worked as a snow car

If I buy another sports car it will have less HP and be a light weight nimble vehicle.
Buy a Lotus. It will check all the boxes you are looking for.
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I had a Corvette for 4 and a half years, but found I really didn't use the horsepower it had. I tended to drive it like an economy car. It could get 30 mpg on the highway. It also worked as a snow car

If I buy another sports car it will have less HP and be a light weight nimble vehicle.
FWIW, I absolutely love Miatas. I've never owned one but I fell in love during a test drive event that Mazda held and invited me to when I had a Mazdaspeed3.

They set up an autocross course in a giant parking lot and let us loose with the current and new versions of it at the time.

If you've never driven one, it only takes one time and you'll be sold.

It's exactly what you're describing.
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No car, but I have a "muscle truck" that only comes out on pretty days.
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Nice.

Here is the one I had in 2005.

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Nice.

Here is the one I had in 2005.

Nice! Betcha' wish you still had that SRT-10? Here's the Six pack scoop soon to be incorporated into my CAI set-up.
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As for a Toyota 86. It's boring as hell. I have a 2019 86 GT and it's getting traded in. No power. Passing someone takes ages, and becomes unstable at highway speed with any sort of cross wind.

EDIT: The Toyota costs 200 more a year than the Hemi for insurance.
FWIW, I think you're doing it wrong.

The 86, like the Miata, isn't about power. If you're not hanging the tail out and sliding around corners when you've got some open road, then you're not using it right.

I haven't driven one, but the whole package is very much like what the Miata offers and that thing is hilariously fun at low, safe speeds if you push it a bit.
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Buy a Lotus. It will check all the boxes you are looking for.
I've driven a Lotus Turbo Esprit with the smaller engine and it was quick, but not terrifying. My friend that it belonged to bought a newer one after spinning the old one on a highway in the rain. He still has the 2004 and drives it occasionally . . . when it's not rattling things loose
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Some day, I want to buy a 1998-2002 Trans Am. Unfortunately, LS F-bodies (particularly ones with the Arrowhead emblem on the nose) are shooting up in value due to the desirability of the LS engine, and the fact that Camaros are everywhere, but Firebirds are not (did not get revived like the Camaro, due to Pontiac's demise).

More than likely I'll end up buying one that's been beat up and do a restomod with updated suspension and brake technology, build it into a nice GT car that can be enjoyed on the street as well.

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FWIW, I think you're doing it wrong.

The 86, like the Miata, isn't about power. If you're not hanging the tail out and sliding around corners when you've got some open road, then you're not using it right.

I haven't driven one, but the whole package is very much like what the Miata offers and that thing is hilariously fun at low, safe speeds if you push it a bit.

I get that that the 86/brz is a direct competitor to the miata and is a road car, but it shouldn't be dancing around at highway speeds, feeling like I'm getting ready to start hydroplaning. Nor should it be slower than grandma's K car.

Personally, I see no enjoyment in this car and it's gone when I have a large down payment on something that suits me better. Chalk it up to not a lot of research and I researched a lot before I bought it.
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I get that that the 86/brz is a direct competitor to the miata and is a road car, but it shouldn't be dancing around at highway speeds, feeling like I'm getting ready to start hydroplaning. Nor should it be slower than grandma's K car.

Personally, I see no enjoyment in this car and it's gone when I have a large down payment on something that suits me better. Chalk it up to not a lot of research and I researched a lot before I bought it.
I understand all of that. I think the car just isn't the right sort of sports car for you, and that's fair. It's a shame that you had to go through this, but sometimes that's how these things go.

For what it's worth... before you get rid of it... I strongly suggest you learn to slide the back around a bit (in a safe environment) and get a feel for what the car is really made for. It's not gonna win any drag races or make you feel like a speed demon, but if you really enjoy DRIVING, it will reward you.

At least try to find the joy in it before you get rid of it. It IS good. It just doesn't seem to be what you're after.
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