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Old 10-21-2018, 08:31 PM   #31
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Say does anyone else refuse to buy Nike ever since that c*nt Kapernick got a payout from them?
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Oh for the military fellas; my great grandfather was a 'runner' at Gallipoli in WWI. He ran trench to trench with messages to the front line. He passed away back around 1975; wish I'd been older than 5. He's a hero in my mind and limited memories.
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Social media is really hate speech since so many people get their feelings hurt by it and take action to get even. Our society is advancing rapidly with respect to technology and capabilities, but sliding backwards even more quickly on a social level.


Seems the libs/dems/antifa all believe in free speech until you disagree with their views, and then you are subjected to harassment, intimidation and even violence. Funny how antifa often mask themselves; I guess they know they will be committing violence.

This is the reason for punishing self-defense. The lefties are turning everything into a double-standard so it will be easier for their side to win.


Those who want to save civilization won't succeed by adopting the tactics of the left. George W Bush spoke moderately, but governed as the religious right. He won his first Congressional mid-term elections during an economic recession. Trump is going to lose the mid-term elections, even though Republicans should be basking in the strength of the post-Obama recovery.
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This is the reason for punishing self-defense. The lefties are turning everything into a double-standard so it will be easier for their side to win.


Those who want to save civilization won't succeed by adopting the tactics of the left. George W Bush spoke moderately, but governed as the religious right. He won his first Congressional mid-term elections during an economic recession. Trump is going to lose the mid-term elections, even though Republicans should be basking in the strength of the post-Obama recovery.
Yeah I'm scared The Don will lose the mid terms. However the liberal media certainly wants you to believe that - just like when he won.
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So thats it? I honestly would love to believe (but fear that I'm mistaken from reading this thread) that we've moved passed such fearful intolerance of anyone that doesn't fit our "definition" of what other humans should be. I can't fathom how being a real "man" is defined by intolerance, hatred for anyone who doesn't live up to their standards, practice life how they would, bias, and bigotry, name calling and general crassness. You speak of the Greatest Generation. It was also a time marked when if you weren't a white male you were pretty inferior in the eyes of the collective nation.



We've moved passed that. Take off your rose tinted glasses of nostalgia, and take the good (there was indeed alot) from that time and bring it to the modern civilized age. Not every man wants to be some grunting, beer chugging, rifle totting braggart. Testosterone does not make a man. Learning, knowing and applying the idea's of the current age, while keeping with idea of being a good person to all, and doing your best to help those around you, family and otherwise is what makes someone.
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Thanks for moving the needle in the direction of getting the thread shut down, good job.
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The original post should be enough to have gotten this shut down. All I'm doing is trying to pull out what little morals and non-bigoted thinking that has shown up here. Naive I suppose I am.
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Well, it is interesting that you live in a state that promotes unconstitutional oppression of citizens rights. Does make the story a bit inconsistent.
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What I find interesting is the OP made a post commenting and generalizing about his personal views of society , he didn’t attack or name anyone but generalized, yet there are those that feel it necessary to personally attack his views. I would guess this is because they either disagree with the OP, which they’re entitled to do or feel the OP is attacking them personally and feel a need to retaliate…personally. If you don’t like what you see in the mirror then change yourself, if you don’t like what you see out your window then help foster healthy change.
What happened to individuals being able to have different points of view and still be able agree to disagree??? What did the OP say that was so bad as to justify that he should not be allowed to say it?

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We seem to have entered a time where mere accusations are enough to ruin an individuals life/career without any repercussions to the accuser should their accusations be found out to be lies. This is compounded by social media that allows these “accusations” to spread, be embellished and magnified without checks or balances. Social media allows individuals to personally attack someone literally on a global scale without being identified personally. There’s no risk to the bully because they hide behind a username that is practically untraceable. I think there would less of this if you had to post your personal information before accusing someone of XYZ on the internet because you’d run the risk of being personally confronted. People can barely communicate professionally on the internet much less face to face. When I was in the military if you had a problem with a team member you settled in the pit...then it was settled. Right or wrong it worked!
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When I was in the military if you had a problem with a team member you settled in the pit...then it was settled. Right or wrong it worked!

Maybe you’re right, what we need is an Internet Pit. I see a great money making opportunity here.
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Rule number one of the Internet pit club, is no one talks about the internet pit club.
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What I find interesting is the OP made a post commenting and generalizing about his personal views of society , he didn’t attack or name anyone but generalized, yet there are those that feel it necessary to personally attack his views. I would guess this is because they either disagree with the OP, which they’re entitled to do or feel the OP is attacking them personally and feel a need to retaliate…personally. If you don’t like what you see in the mirror then change yourself, if you don’t like what you see out your window then help foster healthy change.
What happened to individuals being able to have different points of view and still be able agree to disagree??? What did the OP say that was so bad as to justify that he should not be allowed to say it?

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We seem to have entered a time where mere accusations are enough to ruin an individuals life/career without any repercussions to the accuser should their accusations be found out to be lies. This is compounded by social media that allows these “accusations” to spread, be embellished and magnified without checks or balances. Social media allows individuals to personally attack someone literally on a global scale without being identified personally. There’s no risk to the bully because they hide behind a username that is practically untraceable. I think there would less of this if you had to post your personal information before accusing someone of XYZ on the internet because you’d run the risk of being personally confronted. People can barely communicate professionally on the internet much less face to face. When I was in the military if you had a problem with a team member you settled in the pit...then it was settled. Right or wrong it worked!
Another thing I was taught at a young age was that only a guilty conscience takes offense to faceless words. That's why such ravings are like water off a ducks back to me. The part I won't let go is how many have no clue why they have the liberties they have and who they owe for it which makes it easier for them to attempt to criticize. We've lost sight of respect in too many ways and as you've mentioned it's due greatly to internet anonymity. I said earlier most wouldn't have the stones to mention some of the things they do face to face. Another old saying was, never say something behind someone's back you wouldn't say to their face. The internet has made that saying a useless relic.

As to the pit, it's a great concept that has always produced great results between parties with an issue. As a very young man we often met behind the local bowling alley to fight just for fun. Usually the excuse was some bs about a girl or a car or whatever we could dig up. It was a rural area and we all carried guns in our vehicles yet there was never a thought of using one there no matter the odds. We beat each other to mush that night and hunted, fished, worked on cars or whatever the next day with the same guys. Nowadays people just throw words back and forth and react as though real harm has been done.

We need to go back to the standard of standing for something even if it can cost us everything but I've no idea how that would work on the internet.
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I think the mistake people make is thinking the internet is the same as real life. That's how young people get into trouble. For those of us that have been around way before the internet, we know it's fake. Fake people, fake stories, fake text, fake pictures, fake videos. It's no more real than going to the movies to see Spiderman. Don't take it seriously, it's entertainment.
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I think the mistake people make is thinking the internet is the same as real life. That's how young people get into trouble. For those of us that have been around way before the internet, we know it's fake. Fake people, fake stories, fake text, fake pictures, fake videos. It's no more real than going to the movies to see Spiderman. Don't take it seriously, it's entertainment.
Read my post,agree 100%.
Social media has ruined people as a whole,nothing social about it.
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Read my post,agree 100%.
Social media has ruined people as a whole,nothing social about it.
If you read what Steve Jobs said about smartphones as related to his own children that should be enough warning for anybody. And he said this at the very beginning of the development of smartphones. I think things have probably gotten far worse than even he could have imagined.
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I concur with most of you here, I'm 44 and old skool. I am completely against social media. I don't facebook, tweet, snap chat etc. This fine site is the closest I get to social media. Seems to me people have become professional victims, offended from the time they wake up to when they go to bed. "Outraged" is the new fad the last couple years. Million people watch a movie and love it, 10 people see it and are "outraged" about a 2 second scene. They demand apologies from directors, writers, actors/actresses, studio and the scene be completely wiped from the face of the earth forever so no one else can enjoy it. Now people get their 15 minutes of fame pointing at someone/something crying about hurt feelings, demanding said person loses his/her job, reputation, family and friends over something frivolous that 99.9% of the population does not care about.

This is how I was raised:
Don't like gay marriage? Don't do it
Don't like something? Don't buy it
Don't like guns? Don't buy one,
Don't like weed? Don't smoke it
Don't like liquor? Don't drink it
Don't like a book? Don't read it
Don't like a movie? Don't watch it
Don't like a song? Don't listen to it
Don't like church? Don't go

See how easy that is?

Whatever happened to live and let live?
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Sinister6 mentioned earlier in this thread that we need to keep it civil.
I enjoy reading the opinions of others in this thread, even though the way some of them are expressed in a way that I disagree with.

It's said that those that don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
It took the Roman Empire a thousand years to become the greatest empire ever and then to collapse. For those that care to, I suggest they find out just why it collapsed.

On a more modern note, the Soviet union collapsed. They called themselves the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". Operative word 'socialist'.
Look at Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea. China still has a repressive government, but they're embracing at least some capitalism.

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing". If you don't like what's going on, register and VOTE.
If you think your vote doesn't count, you're wrong. Your vote cancels out some buttheads vote.
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Just a couple thoughts on living today. (IMO)
We live in one off this worlds many interesting times. Things move lighting fast now, I cant even imagine where we will be in ten years.
We are being feed a constant supply of spun/slanted opinions, true facts are becoming very hard to find.
the entertainment/news industry has way to much influence on the world.
People are way to interested and worried about what other people are doing.
The mob mentality of late is both scary and disheartening.
Technology has made our lives so much better in many ways yet (I feel) in some ways so much worse.

I reserve the right to add to this list as its getting late and I need to go to bed.
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The fact we are even discussing this topic brings into question manhood and testosterone..... I wonder if prior male generations talked about their manliness, or instead they just manned the fuk up and kept their opinions or feelings to themselves until the need arose to show them....
I don't remember people being like that back then.
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I don't remember people being like that back then.
This Lee quote affirms exactly what I said.... keep your mouth shut and keep your opinion to yourself until it matters that you give it. Opinion only works if it will do work...

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How many boys are being raised in a "broken home" where there is not a father figure around to set an example. Look at the TV, movies, and commercials - male's are most often portrayed as bumbling idiots. Much like the way women were back in the day. Where is John Wayne when you need him?
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I interpreted the OP's post as a criticism about some guys being overly sensitive, not a call to treat people badly. Sure, the insinuation that men don't whine about every little thing is clear, but that's a far cry from what some are reading into it.

They're just words...the reader is responsible for the context and how it makes them feel. I guess some are more easily triggered than others.
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I was raised to be a gentleman by my mom, and raised to know how to fix things and work hard by my dad.

Over my 52 years, I've developed an opinion to what I think makes a man, well, a man. Bare with me here....

1. A man is someone who knows what he believes in, but doesn't try to make others believe the same thing. He doesn't even bring it up unless absolutely necessary. Like the song says, if you don't [believe, sic] in something, you'll fall for anything.

2. A man is a person who honors his commitments and promises as best as he can. ALL of them. Don't make a promise you cannot keep.

3. A man loves his wife, his children and family, and honors his country.

4. A man puts in an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. Even if you're paid a salary, you put in a hard, full day's work for it.

5. When it comes to paying bills and taking care of your family, there is NO job that is beneath you.

6. A man knows what manners are, including table manners, and is a gentleman until it's time to stop being a gentleman.

7. A man never kicks a man when he's down.

8. A man never brings a knife to a gun fight (metaphorically).

9. A man knows how to get his point across without stooping to name calling, or fist fighting.

10. But, a man knows how to fist fight if he has to.

11. A man is kind to children and animals.

12. A man knows things.

13. A man is the same person with the same character when he thinks no one is watching, but he should know that someone is always watching.

13. Last, a man does not have to prove anything to anyone. He doesn't need validation online or from peers to know he is right, but isn't afraid to ask for help or advice.

Of course, these are just some of what I live by. There are others and I don't expect anyone to agree with me. Testosterone gives you hair, builds muscle and gives you male vitality and a deeper voice. Character is what makes a man. Just my opinion!
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Well said Vikingshadow.

13. A man is the same person with the same character when he thinks no one is watching, but he should know that someone is always watching

Amen Brother.

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Things move lighting fast now, the entertainment/news industry has way to much influence on the world.
People are way too interested and worried about what other people are doing.
The mob mentality of late is both scary and disheartening.
Technology has made our lives so much better in many ways yet in some ways so much worse.

The Megyn Kelly situation really validates the original premise of this thread. She provided a recent historical perspective and was falsely accused of supporting something.


In the fake apology that was scripted for her by the network they forced her to say that she endorsed racism when she did no such thing. They hinted that she might get to keep her job if she pled guilty to saying something that she didn't say.


Her situation, which is becoming very common now (me too), is totally different from the people who make false denials after inadvertently revealing what they really favor.
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I believe there's right and wrong. Those values are absolute for all humanity.

I don't believe that what's called wrong in the Bible is right for someone because they "feel" it's right for them. We will all face judgement one day.
Eternity is a long time to be wrong.

Jesus calls on us to love one another. You can hate the sin but love the sinner.
Once a person realizes that we're all Gods children it's easier to love even the unlovable.
Some of us have been misled by bad folks and others are just broken.
Rather than hate them or call them names we should try to convince them to live better lives, or if that doesn't work, at least pray for them.

God Bless and Good Luck, L.M.
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