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Old 09-20-2019, 04:02 PM
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Jeeptober 2019 October 5th and 6th

Well I finally got around to starting this thread. I was just looking to see how may years it has been and this year makes it the 8th annual Jeeptober run. We started this to say good bye to the season of Jeeping here in the high country. Well, as I can say, the season never ends.

The biggest thing about this trip is that it gives us all a chance to all get together and talk about Jeeping, talk shit to each other and have a great time doing it. We invite all levels of Jeeps to this event. From mild to wild, oh and then there is Doug. (Don't follow Doug) We have trails for all levels of wheeling. We invite rookies to come along and maybe learn a thing or 2. Yep don't follow Doug. If you are new and want to try something new, get with one of our veterans and they will help you out. Just remember to always listen to your spotter. They see stuff that you can't.

So here it goes. This is a list of trails that we can run. Pic one and have some fun.

Jeeptober is held in and around Buena Vista Co. We will meet in Johnson's Village at the truck stop. We will meet starting at 900 am and we will depart at 1000 am for your trails. We will be using CB channel 30.

First of all this is meant to be for all levels of Jeeps and all levels of experience. From stock to holy crap to a piece of crap. If you can't find a trip here for your level, then you own a mall crawler.

This is to be a fun get together for all families and friends. Jeeps of all kinds and maybe a toy or 2. Bring your kids, spouses and anyone brave enough to ride with you.

Trips will be as follows.

#1 Chinamans Gulch. Requirements are as follows, TJ, YJ, CJ or other short wheelbase will need a minimum of a 33" tire and ZJ, XJ, JK, JL or other longer rigs need 35" tire minimum. At least 1 locker is recommended. Body armor, rock sliders, and any under body protection is also recommended. Sway bar disconnects are also required or something similar. This trail is getting harder so what you might see in previous post or other sites may not be up to date.

Rookies are welcome but you MUST listen to your spotters as they will know the trail the best.

#2 Fourmile area to Bald Mountain. This is a great beginner trail with no size restrictions. This is a great trail for stock Jeeps of all kinds. Just enough to make it fun for all. Very scenic with views of the whole valley. We will need someone to guide this trip.

#3 MT Antero/ weather permitting. This trail is a little harder but with spectacular views that summits at 13,000 ft. This trail is a little harder trail but still can be done by a stock Jeep. This trip can also have a bonus trip to the Mary Murphy mine and Pomeroy lake.

Please read this part.
These are all day trips. Bring food, water, plenty of clothes for any type of weather. Bring your tool kits, first aid kits, good shoes. Be prepared for anything.

Afterwards we can all meet for dinner. The Lariat in downtown BV is about the best place to meet with plenty of parking in the rear. Plus they usually have a band later.

Sunday is up for grabs. There is a possibility of running Grizzly lake or even Ironchest

Motels in the area include the following, Super 8, Best Western, Lakeside Motel, Or you can go upscale and go to Mt Princeton Hot Springs Resort

Now post up here any questions or smartass replies/ Mike, John, Tyler

Oh and I do have my junk running this year and I am off all weekend too.

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I'm in!! I'll be doing chinamans. Gonna do my damndest to camp and run Grizzly lake or iron chest on Sunday. They have been on my list ever since I started this hobby

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I'm in!! I'll be doing chinamans. Gonna do my damndest to camp and run Grizzly lake or iron chest on Sunday. They have been on my list ever since I started this hobby
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Sunday GL/IC for sure. Chinaman is a maybe.
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I'm in for chinamans on Saturday, not sure if we will stay the night, but we will go for dinner after the trail
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I will be bringing along another jeep he ran holy cross with a few of us a few weeks ago
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I want to say I'm in for leading the 4 Mile run.

HOWEVER, I do chemo earlier that week. This last round left me pretty weak so I may have to back out. Hopefully I can suck it up and make it. I really want to get out wheeling.
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In for Chinaman Saturday and GL/IC Sunday. Going to get a room in BV.

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I will most likely make it for China Man. This will be a one day run for me and will be heading out after the run.


Doug, did you ever get some real tires on that red pos?
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I will most likely make it for China Man. This will be a one day run for me and will be heading out after the run.


Doug, did you ever get some real tires on that red pos?
Yes sir I did. 36x13.50x15 IROK's

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Well those should do the trick So do they have any tread on them?
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Should be a good time if you don't flip...
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I plan to be there for Chinaman, probably something Sunday too if the Mrs. is cool with it.
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Heads up for anyone that is considering a hotel. Move quick. From what I found Super 8 is the only place left in BV and there were just a few rooms left as of this morning.
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It's probably because the fall colors are late this year

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Well I finally got around to starting this thread. I was just looking to see how may years it has been and this year makes it the 8th annual Jeeptober run. We started this to say good bye to the season of Jeeping here in the high country. Well, as I can say, the season never ends.

The biggest thing about this trip is that it gives us all a chance to all get together and talk about Jeeping, talk shit to each other and have a great time doing it. We invite all levels of Jeeps to this event. From mild to wild, oh and then there is Doug. (Don't follow Doug) We have trails for all levels of wheeling. We invite rookies to come along and maybe learn a thing or 2. Yep don't follow Doug. If you are new and want to try something new, get with one of our veterans and they will help you out. Just remember to always listen to your spotter. They see stuff that you can't.

So here it goes. This is a list of trails that we can run. Pic one and have some fun.

Jeeptober is held in and around Buena Vista Co. We will meet in Johnson's Village at the truck stop. We will meet starting at 900 am and we will depart at 1000 am for your trails. We will be using CB channel 30.

First of all this is meant to be for all levels of Jeeps and all levels of experience. From stock to holy crap to a piece of crap. If you can't find a trip here for your level, then you own a mall crawler.

This is to be a fun get together for all families and friends. Jeeps of all kinds and maybe a toy or 2. Bring your kids, spouses and anyone brave enough to ride with you.

Trips will be as follows.

#1 Chinamans Gulch. Requirements are as follows, TJ, YJ, CJ or other short wheelbase will need a minimum of a 33" tire and ZJ, XJ, JK, JL or other longer rigs need 35" tire minimum. At least 1 locker is recommended. Body armor, rock sliders, and any under body protection is also recommended. Sway bar disconnects are also required or something similar. This trail is getting harder so what you might see in previous post or other sites may not be up to date.

Rookies are welcome but you MUST listen to your spotters as they will know the trail the best.

#2 Fourmile area to Bald Mountain. This is a great beginner trail with no size restrictions. This is a great trail for stock Jeeps of all kinds. Just enough to make it fun for all. Very scenic with views of the whole valley. We will need someone to guide this trip.

#3 MT Antero/ weather permitting. This trail is a little harder but with spectacular views that summits at 13,000 ft. This trail is a little harder trail but still can be done by a stock Jeep. This trip can also have a bonus trip to the Mary Murphy mine and Pomeroy lake.

Please read this part.
These are all day trips. Bring food, water, plenty of clothes for any type of weather. Bring your tool kits, first aid kits, good shoes. Be prepared for anything.

Afterwards we can all meet for dinner. The Lariat in downtown BV is about the best place to meet with plenty of parking in the rear. Plus they usually have a band later.

Sunday is up for grabs. There is a possibility of running Grizzly lake or even Ironchest

Motels in the area include the following, Super 8, Best Western, Lakeside Motel, Or you can go upscale and go to Mt Princeton Hot Springs Resort

Now post up here any questions or smartass replies/ Mike, John, Tyler

Oh and I do have my junk running this year and I am off all weekend too.

Thanks
Doug J/ BVJeep
Dang...we just got back home,Saturday, from Salida/Buena Vista area and northern NM. We stayed 5 days in Salida and always go to Buena Vista for lunch at Lariat. We did Mt Princeton and St. Elmo.
We are seniors and are new to the Jeep experience. Craig at Rocky Mtn Jeeps in Salida was terrific in highlighting easy/moderate trails for our first off road experiences. I wish we could attend. Will mark the calendar for next year !
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Sounds fun, I'm free on Sunday but have concert tickets in Denver Saturday 7pm, I'm guessing it would be tough to do both. The title/subject says 5th & 6th but there are 3 trips planned, does that mean you're planning to do all 3 trails on Saturday, and then not sure yet about where to go Sunday ("up for grabs")? I read it twice but confused, sorry if I'm missing something 🙂
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Generally all trails are done on Saturday and if there is enough interest/participants trails will be run on Sunday.
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I’m in for Saturday’s run of #2 or #3. Maybe the harder trail next year.
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I plan to be there for Chinaman, probably something Sunday too if the Mrs. is cool with it.

Confirmed I can do Sunday too. I'll be heading up to BV mid-day Friday to set up a camp site and wheel Chinaman Saturday and whatever my rig can handle (if it survives Chinaman ) Sunday.
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I’m in for Saturday’s run of #2 or #3. Maybe the harder trail next year.
And, I’m out. I didn’t know the wife got tickets to the CU football game.
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The curmudgeon would like to say a few things...

Don't follow Doug, that is a given. Also take what he says with a truckload of salt.


China Man is a very nasty trail and it is noticeably worse every time I run it. So here are a few suggestions:


Don't even consider running this trail on 33's unless you are an expert and have done this trail a number of times. If you insist on doing this you will trash your jeep and it will cost a ton of money and time to fix it. I assume that those I am speaking to have no or insufficient under body protection or else you would already be on 35's or larger.


If your jeep has mechanical problems and you haven't dealt with them find another trail to run on Saturday. Don't screw up every body else's run in the first quarter mile because you weren't adequately prepared. This did happen during the April fools run and it has happened more than once in the past.


Observe the three try rule on all obstacles. If you don't make it in three tries back off and take an easier line. Doug flagrantly ignored this in April and ended up flipping his Jeep. Luckily no one was hurt but it could easily have turned very ugly.


This is not meant to scare anyone but to make to you think about if you are really prepared to run this trail. This includes new and old timers.


Thanks for listening.
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China Man is a very nasty trail and it is noticeably worse every time I run it. So here are a few suggestions: I will agree that the trail changes each year., not a reason to be afraid of it. I was scared of this trail before my first run. Made it through with zero damage. I think the trail was tougher teh first time I ran it than subsequent runs. Silt and erosion change everything every year.


Don't even consider running this trail on 33's unless you are an expert and have done this trail a number of times. If you insist on doing this you will trash your jeep and it will cost a ton of money and time to fix it. I assume that those I am speaking to have no or insufficient under body protection or else you would already be on 35's or larger. I am not an "expert" but I enjoy this trail. Have never trashed my jeep nor even scratched it. Stop trying to scare the children. I trust the men I travel with and appreciate their spotting. This is what I feel "Jeeping" is about. You have to challenge yourself to learn. I have run this trail on 33's several times without issue and will again this year (locked front and rear and yes I have adequate under carriage armor). I strongly believe in at least a rear locker and preferably 2.



If your jeep has mechanical problems and you haven't dealt with them find another trail to run on Saturday. Don't screw up every body else's run in the first quarter mile because you weren't adequately prepared. This did happen during the April fools run and it has happened more than once in the past.

Mechanical problems that you know about are one thing. Parts break, and that is what happened to Craig last year. I would not fault him or anyone for a mechanical failure that is unexpected.



Observe the three try rule on all obstacles. If you don't make it in three tries back off and take an easier line. Doug flagrantly ignored this in April and ended up flipping his Jeep. Luckily no one was hurt but it could easily have turned very ugly. I think we have all wanted to see Doug on his side for a while now, it was bound to happen....





This is not meant to scare anyone but to make to you think about if you are really prepared to run this trail. This includes new and old timers.


I dont mean to soften the warning, but lighten up Francis. Rant over


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I agree with you. I did ignore the 3 and done rule and I did flop. With the new build I just knew it was going to make it. It did, but on a winch.

In the end luckily there were only 2 things broken, my driver's side door, and my pride. It is hard to believe,but I haven't run the whole trail since.

Now for the rest of you coming, Chinaman's is a great fun trail when you listen to your spotters. If you want to run something else, no shame in that at all. Looking up into the mountains, the fall colors are spectacular right now. Pick a trail and let's have some fun.

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CM can be done well with a TJ on 33s, 3-4" lift and raised skids. On my last two times through, I only had a front locker. What I have seen the most, even on 35s, are saggy bellies being dragged over the rocks. The higher the center, the easier time you will have.
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Confirmed I can do Sunday too. I'll be heading up to BV mid-day Friday to set up a camp site and wheel Chinaman Saturday and whatever my rig can handle (if it survives Chinaman ) Sunday.
I may be up there friday evening, depending on how work goes. Going to try and camp in the four mile area just up 285 a bit
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I'm planning to still join on CM in an LJR on 33s and a 2.5" lift (plus a 1.25" BL). The Savvy UCAs aren't here yet, so the TT hasn't wrapped up (aka - running the shovel). Hopefully the wimp routes still exist for me after the 3 tries on the fun lines.

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I'm in for Sunday for sure. Depending on how work pans out later this week, maybe I can fly home on Friday evening and load up camping gear for Saturday night.
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Don't follow Doug, that is a given. Also take what he says with a truckload of salt.


China Man is a very nasty trail and it is noticeably worse every time I run it. So here are a few suggestions:


Don't even consider running this trail on 33's unless you are an expert and have done this trail a number of times. If you insist on doing this you will trash your jeep and it will cost a ton of money and time to fix it. I assume that those I am speaking to have no or insufficient under body protection or else you would already be on 35's or larger.


If your jeep has mechanical problems and you haven't dealt with them find another trail to run on Saturday. Don't screw up every body else's run in the first quarter mile because you weren't adequately prepared. This did happen during the April fools run and it has happened more than once in the past.


Observe the three try rule on all obstacles. If you don't make it in three tries back off and take an easier line. Doug flagrantly ignored this in April and ended up flipping his Jeep. Luckily no one was hurt but it could easily have turned very ugly.


This is not meant to scare anyone but to make to you think about if you are really prepared to run this trail. This includes new and old timers.


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China Man is a very nasty trail and it is noticeably worse every time I run it. So here are a few suggestions: I will agree that the trail changes each year., not a reason to be afraid of it. I was scared of this trail before my first run. Made it through with zero damage. I think the trail was tougher teh first time I ran it than subsequent runs. Silt and erosion change everything every year.


Don't even consider running this trail on 33's unless you are an expert and have done this trail a number of times. If you insist on doing this you will trash your jeep and it will cost a ton of money and time to fix it. I assume that those I am speaking to have no or insufficient under body protection or else you would already be on 35's or larger. I am not an "expert" but I enjoy this trail. Have never trashed my jeep nor even scratched it. Stop trying to scare the children. I trust the men I travel with and appreciate their spotting. This is what I feel "Jeeping" is about. You have to challenge yourself to learn. I have run this trail on 33's several times without issue and will again this year (locked front and rear and yes I have adequate under carriage armor). I strongly believe in at least a rear locker and preferably 2.



If your jeep has mechanical problems and you haven't dealt with them find another trail to run on Saturday. Don't screw up every body else's run in the first quarter mile because you weren't adequately prepared. This did happen during the April fools run and it has happened more than once in the past.

Mechanical problems that you know about are one thing. Parts break, and that is what happened to Craig last year. I would not fault him or anyone for a mechanical failure that is unexpected.



Observe the three try rule on all obstacles. If you don't make it in three tries back off and take an easier line. Doug flagrantly ignored this in April and ended up flipping his Jeep. Luckily no one was hurt but it could easily have turned very ugly. I think we have all wanted to see Doug on his side for a while now, it was bound to happen....





This is not meant to scare anyone but to make to you think about if you are really prepared to run this trail. This includes new and old timers.


I dont mean to soften the warning, but lighten up Francis. Rant over


Thanks for listening.
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I second everything Ed said, this trail can leave even the best built rig on the side of the trail! Inspect your rig, CA’s, brackets, TRE, draglinks, drive shafts etc. As Doug mentioned you NEED armor on this trail! Don’t just think you’re able to do the trail because you meet the minimum requirements posted above.

FTR: Ed is referring to the individual that KNOWS their rig has a issue but THINKS they can make it through the trail. This trail is no joke period! If you don’t take seriously you wish you had...

I remember spotting Mike as he drove your rig up one of the very first obstacles last year. IIRC you had open diffs and insisted on doing the trail anyway despite the recommendations and eventually your radiator broke leaving you stranded on the trail. The extra skinny pedal it took you to get over obstacles could have very well led to the radiator damage. Listening to the veterans when they preach caution regarding a trail can save you and those that help you off the trail a lot of time and money! You don’t have to like the words of caution, but you should heed them!!!
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