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Old 04-06-2019, 05:22 PM
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Any 2.0 liter regrets?

I am thinking of purchasing and ordering my 2019 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. Is the 2.0 liter worth the extra money. How reliable is this engine? Does anybody regret their purchase of this engine over the 3.5

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oops. I think I posted in the wrong subforum. How can I move this post to the General Discussion section?

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I have been looking for one with the 2.0 but no dealer near me has one on the lot.
Wanted to test drive before I made my decision.
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They cant sell them around here.The 3.6 is less plentiful.I think they will be a pain in the ass after awhile.Time will tell.It has a ton of cooling lines on it for the engine,turbo,and 48volt battery.Three coolant reservoir caps.Youtube it.
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I was wary buying the 2.0 but it's better than I thought it would be, especially after you put some miles on it. The engine is smooth with power everywhere. Great crawling around off road or ripping through the desert. It's really good on the highway with more than ample power to do anything I would ever want to do in a Jeep. In a 2 door Sport, it's actually kinda quick and certainly fun.
It averages 24 mpg in mixed real world driving. Not that you buy a jeep for mileage but that's way better that my 3.6 JK could ever do. The injectors are noisy but the turbo sounds great. Can you tell I love it?
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:52 AM   #7
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I test drove the 2.0 extensively and I have to say that I was very impressed with it, even a JKU Rubicon really moves out with this thing. My big concern would be how all that tech ages, not necessarily the turbo which can have a very long life, but rather all the hybrid assist stuff. The beta testers will let us know in a few years.
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I have been looking for one with the 2.0 but no dealer near me has one on the lot.
Wanted to test drive before I made my decision.
Last time I looked the dealer here in Prescott only had 2.0 Wranglers on the lot.

And the one time I talked to the salesman he said they were really pushing the 2.0 turbo because of the elevation here.
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Old 04-07-2019, 10:12 AM   #9
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In Calif we have strict smog laws. Passing a smog test is tied to registration. Wondering if a failure of the E-Torque on the 2.0 would cause a smog test failure and make it not possible to get registration till it is fixed? Just one more thing.
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I'm in the market for a new Wrangler as well and I test drove the V6 but I haven't drove the 2.0 and didn't think I'd want one but after running around a little bit maybe I'll give it up test drive. You guys that own them they have a better torque turn the 3.6 on assuming Towing would even be a little better. Does anybody know what the toe capacity is on the Wranglers? Kind of confusing on-site it says two thousand pounds but then it says up to 3500 pounds with an asterisk. Is the V6 2000 pounds and the 2L turbo 3500 lb?

Just a small note when I test drove the V6 the other day it didn't idle as smooth as I thought it should. It had a little bit of vibration. I have a direct injected V6 in a 2015 Impala LTZ and that motor is Silky Smooth compared to this V6. Anybody else with the V6 notice that vibration at idle or did they just have a bad one that I test drove? If so that's kind of scary LOL
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Oops I meant after reading around a little bit on the 2.0. I'm brand-new here as you guys can probably tell, anyway to edit a post here? I'm on my phone and it sure doesn't show me how or quote somebody's post? I don't see any of these buttons
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In Calif we have strict smog laws. Passing a smog test is tied to registration. Wondering if a failure of the E-Torque on the 2.0 would cause a smog test failure and make it not possible to get registration till it is fixed? Just one more thing.
Depends on whether a failure in the e-Torque system sets a CEL (which would cause a smog test failure.) In the KL Cherokee a drivetrain module failure turns on a 'Service 4WD System' indicator but not the CEL, maybe the e-Torque Wrangler is similar.
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If this engine was a Honda or Toyota Id be more open to it.But its Chrysler FCA or what ever.Its pretty techy.I guess you have a five year powertrain warranty.
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That's kinda the main thing, that the 2.0 and e-Torqure are so new and FCA doesn't exactly have a sterling track record with new drivetrain introductions and examples are everywhere (the troubled 3.6 Pentastar rollout, the ZF9 transmission problems in the KL, etc.) Six years later the bugs are worked out and the Pentastar is now a pretty solid platform and surely the 2.0/e-Torque system will be as well, the only question is... when.
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And its 1000.00 more and premium fuel is recommended,I believe.
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Add to that the cost of an extended warranty, because I would not consider 5 year/60k miles as adequate for such a new and complicated/expensive-to-repair drivetrain.

The 2.0 is fun and provides a lot of giggles, and if I was planning on turning the vehicle over before the warranty expired then I'd probably go with it just for that reason alone. If this was a 'I'm gonna keep it forever' purchase however, no way. Or at least not until the system has proved itself in terms of longevity.
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Premium here in So.Cal is 3.90 something so the savings in mileage isnt much if any.The turbo would be nice in a hi elevation area like the RockyMountain area.At least they did give us another engine option to look into.
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Just wait,,, Premium will be $4.00+ very soon is Calif.
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Boy did I make a mistake today.... Stepped on a lot with quite a few 19's... two being Rubicon's. I didn't think I wanted a Rubicon. Damn they're nice. Both these particular ones have the 2.0 L

Both discounted 10% off sticker on their website
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To answer that question.... premium is not required for the 2.0 just recommended. The motor will detune for regular gas. I already checked into that. So if you're just daily driving you can get away with regular and maybe if you're going to rip on it a little bit go premium
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Add to that the cost of an extended warranty, because I would not consider 5 year/60k miles as adequate for such a new and complicated/expensive-to-repair drivetrain.
FCA's extended warranty does not cover the 2.0's hybrid components.

Some parts are covered a little further than 5/60 by the federal emissions warranty
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FCA's extended warranty does not cover the 2.0's hybrid components.

Some parts are covered a little further than 5/60 by the federal emissions warranty
I never researched it but that alone would have me concerned...

I did buy a Maxcare Extended whatever plan when I bought my JLUR. I did so for several reasons not the least of which it just made $$ sense. I had a couple nit pick things go on my JKURHR and it was out of warranty and would have cost about what I paid for the Maxcare on the JLUR so why not...
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FCA's extended warranty does not cover the 2.0's hybrid components.
That perhaps should tell a buyer something. The next question is how much does that battery pack or motor/alternator cost when they eventually die... I can only imagine 'not cheap.' And of course probably only a Jeep dealer will be able to do the work, as in they give you a price and you pay it, period.
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I did buy a Maxcare Extended whatever plan when I bought my JLUR. I did so for several reasons not the least of which it just made $$ sense. I had a couple nit pick things go on my JKURHR and it was out of warranty and would have cost about what I paid for the Maxcare on the JLUR so why not...
Exactly why I wanted the Maxcare and was lucky enough to get it thrown into the final cost. I don't plan on getting rid of mine, so the warranty made sense.
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I never researched it but that alone would have me concerned...

I did buy a Maxcare Extended whatever plan when I bought my JLUR. I did so for several reasons not the least of which it just made $$ sense. I had a couple nit pick things go on my JKURHR and it was out of warranty and would have cost about what I paid for the Maxcare on the JLUR so why not...
Yep, I'm sure most dealers will fail to mention it during their sales pitch too. Under exclusions on the MaxCare coverage it lists:

"Hybrid components: hybrid charging system; hybrid electric cooling system; hybrid power inventor system"
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The next question is how much does that battery pack or motor/alternator cost when they eventually die...
The 2.0 alternator is about $400-450, the liquid-cooled 48V battery costs nearly $1,500
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Yep, I'm sure most dealers will fail to mention it during their sales pitch too. Under exclusions on the MaxCare coverage it lists:

"Hybrid components: hybrid charging system; hybrid electric cooling system; hybrid power inventor system"
Wow...Huge IMO. It's all about future unexpected $$$. Who needs surprises like that....
I mean if the Hybrid components fail BUT you got to go the Vegas for a week and "play" with Vegas stuff to get it fixed as part of the nominal charge ... Then maybe But, I imagine a completely different experience involving large amounts of cash and a guy named "Vito the Wrench" with Butt Crack Syndrome and he has to test drive my Jeep.

Yuck no Bueno....
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The 2.0 alternator is about $400-450, the liquid-cooled 48V battery costs nearly $1,500
F' that. PASS FTW. Done, easy decision.
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No regrets from me. It’s fun to drive and I don’t keep vehicles long enough to worry about warranties running out. The 48 volt hybrid battery system is covered 8 years, 80K miles. It’ll be someone’s else’s issue by then.
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No regrets from me. It’s fun to drive and I don’t keep vehicles long enough to worry about warranties running out. The 48 volt hybrid battery system is covered 8 years, 80K miles. It’ll be someone’s else’s issue by then.
Yes, that's exactly what it will be

If you plan on turning the vehicle over before it is out of warranty then you are the ideal buyer for expensive new tech. But many buy Wranglers with the intention of customizing them and keeping them a long time, and those buyers may not be the best candidates for the 2.0 hybrid system.

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