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Old 11-19-2019, 08:15 AM
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Calling all JL Manual Tranny Owners; Anyone?

Does anyone came from the JK manual? How does it compare? Same? Still the truck-like long throws? Any improvements?

I know the 8-speed auto is great and a vast upgrade from the 5-speed; but I prefer the vanishing manual, just personal preference. I know I’m in the minority here. Almost 100% sure the JL will be the last Jeep with manual transmission and I will be looking for V6 JL maybe next year or the next.

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Does anyone came from the JK manual? How does it compare? Same? Still the truck-like long throws? Any improvements?

I know the 8-speed auto is great and a vast upgrade from the 5-speed; but I prefer the vanishing manual, just personal preference. I know I’m in the minority here. Almost 100% sure the JL will be the last Jeep with manual transmission and I will be looking for V6 JL maybe next year or the next.
I took one on an extended test drive at a local dealer last year.

The shifter does not have “truck-throws”, it’s light and much different. It is cable operated now, so it feels very car-like. Clutch is soft, there is no pedal feedback anymore. Reminds me of a Honda. The gear spread is strange, first gear is very short, and the double overdrive is pointless.

Would I buy it? Absolutely. I’ve owned 5 Wranglers, and never once an automatic.
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According to FCA, JL shift throws are reduced by 50% from JK’s.
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Just sold a JK Rubicon with a manual and have driven a JL sport with a manual and the JL is quite a bit nicer.

Just ordered a JL Sahara with a manual.
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Just traded my 2010 JK Rubicon manual for a 2019 JL Rubicon manual. The JL shift throws are much shorter, the clutch is lighter, and the shifts are clean and crisp. It's a joy to drive.
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When I bought my 2018 JL Rubicon Manual I was actually planning on buying one of the 2018 JK Manuals that they had on the lot and were discounting. I figured since they both had the same engine and were manuals they would drive the same.

After driving them both, I felt like there was a big enough difference between them that i went ahead and dropped the extra dough on the JL and I have been very happy with it. The JK drove more like an older vehicle. The ride was a little rougher and it just did not drive the same. The JL had a modern style interior, rode a little nicer and I just liked driving it more. Plus i really liked the red dash in the rubicon.

If you like driving a manual shift, you'll love the new JL. I think the manual makes it a little more fun to drive.

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Thanks guys, good to know the JL manual is improved.

I believe the JL will be the last manual Jeep ever, the signs are all over the wall; I-4 Turbo, auto only; Diesel, auto only.

Also, I saw elsewhere that last quater EV's outsold cars with manual transmission in USA, which is not surprising.
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Well, I've had 2 JKUR's with manuals and now a JLUR with a manual. The new manual is probably "better" and feels more like a car. But I honestly liked the manual in the JK a lot more. Sure, it felt like a stick in a truck but that was part of what made it unique. 5th and 6th just feel weird now, I can't explain it. But it's still not an automatic. And that's what really matters to me.
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It's night and day. I had a manual JK and now have a muanual JL. Soooo much better.
The JL shifter is body mounted, whereas the JK shifter comes right up from the transmission, that's why it shakes so much and the throws were really long...I think.
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When I test drove mine last week it was a strange experience not moving my hand outside a 4 inch circle while shifting up through the gears. Way smoother than my JKU for sure
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A Wrangler is one of those vehicles that NEEDS to be a manual in my mind.

Compared to my JK, the shifter is really crisp with shorter throws. I didn't like the clutch initially because it was SO SOFT. It took a couple weeks to really get used to it, but I'm a fan of it now.
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A Wrangler is one of those vehicles that NEEDS to be a manual in my mind.

Compared to my JK, the shifter is really crisp with shorter throws. I didn't like the clutch initially because it was SO SOFT. It took a couple weeks to really get used to it, but I'm a fan of it now.
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Love the manual!

Bought a 2018 JL Rubi last January. Coming off a 2013 JK manual tranny. I love the JL Manual transmission. Slick, smooth, and sure. Took about a week to get used to the new shift pattern, but not a real issue. To me, the JL is just so much more "refined" than the JK. (if one can ever call a jeep refined!)
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It certainly is becoming refined. Gotta keep all the soccer moms happy and comfy. Getting set for my JLU order to be finalized on Tuesday.

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