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Old 11-24-2019, 07:39 PM
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Dealer recommendations for Rubicon order?

After a long search we are ready to pull the trigger. We are in SoCal, but do not mind traveling for the right deal. Can't wait! Thanks for any info that could help us proceed.

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Dennis Dillon Jeep Caldwell Idaho

Call Billy Hennesy he was terrific (208) 941-4871

Forgot to mention I saved over 6k compared to local dealers here in Utah.

I bought a $250 Delta ticket to Boise and Billy picked me up at the airport. Deal all done and driving back home by afternoon.

Rubi on the lot day of purchase...
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After a long search we are ready to pull the trigger. We are in SoCal, but do not mind traveling for the right deal. Can't wait! Thanks for any info that could help us proceed.
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Huntington Beach Jeep seems to have the most aggressive pricing in SoCal. Too bad their customer treatment is abhorrent.

Don-A-Vee Jeep was a SoCal institution for decades. I bought my 2001 Grand Cherokee from them; they were great. Don-A-Vee is now Premier Jeep of Placentia. If Premier is anything like Don-A-Vee was, they should know Jeeps like no one else.

I know the Sales Manager —and the Service and the Parts managers— at Glenn E. Thomas Dodge Jeep in Long Beach; PM me if interested.

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Don-A-Vee Jeep was a SoCal institution for decades. I bought my 2001 Grand Cherokee from them; they were great. Don-A-Vee is now Premier Jeep of Placentia. If Premier is anything like Don-A-Vee was, they should know Jeeps like no one else.

Premier Jeep of Placentia moved to Buena Park....

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After a long search we are ready to pull the trigger. We are in SoCal, but do not mind traveling for the right deal. Can't wait! Thanks for any info that could help us proceed.
Contact Kevin Draucker, Fleet Director, Tuttle-Click Tustin Jeep and see what he can do for you. He'll order anything you want.

(714) 730-4600
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It would be better if you have access to Affiliates pricing... if you don't have it through your employer, you can get that through https://www.treadlightly.org/support/members membership. "INDIVIDUAL CHOICES"... $100 Membership qualifies for Chrysler, Jeep, Ram, Dodge, SRT, and Fiat Affiliate Rewards Program Preferred Price, 1% below factory invoice on purchase or lease of new vehicles.

You need to be a member for 30 days to qualify for FCA Affiliate Rewards Program.

I've bought four Jeeps from Kevin... he may not be the lowest price in town, but he's been the Fleet Director there for 20+ years which is rare to see at any dealership... they typically move around like chairs on the Titanic.

No pressure... shoot him an email with the model and options you want and ask him for a pre-order sales sheet with Invoice, EPP, FFP, MSRP and Holdback..

It can serve as the baseline to compare with the others...

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I don't think the tread lightly thing matters that much. A lot of dealers will just give you a nice discount regardless. I got 12% off with no haggling at mine. But that was in Niagara Falls, NY
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Dealers manage to still make the pricing/discounting of vehicles appear to be a game of a vanishing tiny ball under one of three cups.

When I bought my last Jeep I went to one of the perennial favorites mentioned on this forum. The new price offer was decent until the appearance of the $1500 administrative fee.
My Trade-in is what tipped it. ALL dealers only got photos (if they would even accept them) a local(ish) dealer blew the offer from states away by ..... $8,000.

Done deal.

Moral of the story: It all depends.
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$1,500 administrative fee...?!?!

Do they come to your house to serve as a butler while you own the Jeep...?
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yes that is a rip. Dennis Dillon has a doc fee of $299 that they advertise right up front and tell you about. No hidden fees or bait and switch tactics. I was just at Dave Smith on Friday where my buddy bought two new vehicles and I believe there Doc fee was $199 (I remember when it was $49) he said they did not try to talk him into any other frivolous add ons. While he was doing the paper work I talked to a guy who was from Bakersfield CA. He said this was his fourth new car from Dave Smith in 4 years. He bought this bad boy. he said nobody could come close to the deal he got (I did not ask what kind of deal he made) the MSRP was in the 80's

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$1,500 administrative fee...?!?!

Do they come to your house to serve as a butler while you own the Jeep...?
Yeah. It's like the Young "Lady" walks up to me in a bar and whispers in my ear...
" I will do Anything you want for $100" so I lean over and whisper back...

"Deal. Here's my address - come over tomorrow and paint my house"

$1500 is a Lot of administrating....
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I got a phenomenal deal at https://www.422jeep.com in PA - 3ish% below invoice and a lot of money for my '13 trade in. Drove from NYC to get it...
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I got a phenomenal deal at https://www.422jeep.com in PA - 3ish% below invoice and a lot of money for my '13 trade in. Drove from NYC to get it...
Good dealership and buying experience.
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I don't think the tread lightly thing matters that much. A lot of dealers will just give you a nice discount regardless. I got 12% off with no haggling at mine. But that was in Niagara Falls, NY
Well it does matter to dealers because FCA kicks back the difference between MSRP and 1% below invoice.. or something to that effect.

Dealers have the option to participate or not...

If FCA offers Affiliates pricing on the vehicle it's a win-win for buyer and seller.

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After a long search we are ready to pull the trigger. We are in SoCal, but do not mind traveling for the right deal. Can't wait! Thanks for any info that could help us proceed.
First question is what is the MSRP on your build, and what is your target price, OTD?

You should be in a good position on an ordered Jeep with no trade.
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I don't think the tread lightly thing matters that much. A lot of dealers will just give you a nice discount regardless. I got 12% off with no haggling at mine. But that was in Niagara Falls, NY
YMMV, but I've twice bought Wranglers for 2% under invoice using Treadlighty. The main advantage is no haggling required.
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YMMV, but I've twice bought Wranglers for 2% under invoice using Treadlighty. The main advantage is no haggling required.
What's better? 12%off of sticker, or 2%off invoice?
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According to Edmunds.com, Invoice is roughly 5% below MSRP on a Wrangler JL: https://www.edmunds.com/jeep/wrangle...tep1%23facets1

Therefore, 2% below invoice is about 7% off MSRP.
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So, I wonder where the OP ended up buying from? Any news? We all like to share and keep up with this stuff.
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What's better? 12%off of sticker, or 2%off invoice?
On average, holdback is between $1,100 to $1,500... depends on the model, options, MSRP, etc.

so your dealer threw in holdback and a little more...

Was there a trade in on this deal?

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Still getting bids on our Rubicon order. I was in a hurry until I found out the manufacture is closed and will not open until January 7th. That's the bad news. The good news is that folks are letting me know of more dealers that I can get prices from. I appreciate all of you recommendations. Getting close.....
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Still getting bids on our Rubicon order. I was in a hurry until I found out the manufacture is closed and will not open until January 7th. That's the bad news. The good news is that folks are letting me know of more dealers that I can get prices from. I appreciate all of you recommendations. Getting close.....
Own a business? The Jeep Wrangler now qualifies for $25K first year depreciation tax deduction...

https://seekingalpha.com/article/430...-tax-deduction

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The Jeep Wrangler now qualifies for $25K first year depreciation tax deduction...

https://seekingalpha.com/article/430...-tax-deduction

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That must be mostly because prices are approaching $100k!
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That must be mostly because prices are approaching $100k!
Appears to be an oxymoron. More weight equals less taxes...

That'll change soon...



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Own a business? The Jeep Wrangler now qualifies for $25K first year depreciation tax deduction...

https://seekingalpha.com/article/430...-tax-deduction

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Well that's a good deal, unfortunately, I'm retired.....
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On average, holdback is between $1,100 to $1,500... depends on the model, options, MSRP, etc.

so your dealer threw in holdback and a little more...

Was there a trade in on this deal?

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With my deal, I traded in a '16 and got $24.5K for it. Both vehicles were loaded Rubi's
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/430...-tax-deduction

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In a prior life I did a lot of tax returns. So, before you count on this deduction and buy a diesel Wrangler talk with a tax expert. Sec 179 is legit but you need to make sure your business qualifies for a Sec 179 vehicle deduction.

Very interesting stuff though. Thanks for posting!
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In a prior life I did a lot of tax returns. So, before you count on this deduction and buy a diesel Wrangler talk with a tax expert. Sec 179 is legit but you need to make sure your business qualifies for a Sec 179 vehicle deduction.

Very interesting stuff though. Thanks for posting!
Excellent advice ... GF got a letter from the state wanting $900 back. I guess what used to be deductible, is no longer feasible in the state of California. I assume anyone that owns a small business is using a professional tax preparation firm.

I give my uncle everything since he owns an accounting, payroll and tax preparation service.

Sometimes I wonder about the stuff he tells me to do... he's pushing 87, but I guess he knows taxes.



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Speaking of taxes, I got home last night to find a letter from the IRS stating that I owe them one-quarter-of-a-million dollars in taxes from the 2017 sale of my condo in Los Angeles.

Normally I would have lost sleep over this, but that figure was so utterly ridiculous I knew it couldn’t be. So I went straight to bed.

This morning I hired a CPA to look into my 2017 tax return and respond to the IRS. He had me dig up the closing documents from the 2005 purchase of that condo; thankfully I still had them. Turns out I had made a boo-boo on my 2017 return.

In my defense, I did my taxes two months after my mom’s passing and, as I’ve been finding out, I seem to have done a lot of stupid things in those few months.

Anyway, nothing a good CPA —and $700– can’t fix.

Feel sort of bad for the IRS, though: they spent a stamp and an envelope on that letter, and now they won’t be getting any of those $250,000...
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Speaking of taxes, I got home last night to find a letter from the IRS stating that I owe them one-quarter-of-a-million dollars in taxes from the 2017 sale of my condo in Los Angeles.

Normally I would have lost sleep over this, but that figure was so utterly ridiculous I knew it couldn’t be. So I went straight to bed.

This morning I hired a CPA to look into my 2017 tax return and respond to the IRS. He had me dig up the closing documents from the 2005 purchase of that condo; thankfully I still had them. Turns out I had made a boo-boo on my 2017 return.

In my defense, I did my taxes two months after my mom’s passing and, as I’ve been finding out, I seem to have done a lot of stupid things in those few months.

Anyway, nothing a good CPA —and $700– can’t fix.

Feel sort of bad for the IRS, though: they spent a stamp and an envelope on that letter, and now they won’t be getting any of those $250,000...
Sorry to hear about your mom Aldo... I went through the same with my mother. I told my boss I'm surprised I didn't have a major stroke I was under so much stress.

I had my arms full during her illness and after she passed away.

And don't ever feel bad for the IRS.. they get stamps free and will take every penny from you if given the opportunity.



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