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Old 06-15-2019, 12:34 PM
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Do the headlights still suck?

I just ordered a 2019 JLU Sport Altitude unfortunately the LED lights are not an option on the sport and the stock headlights on my JK really sucked so I replaced them with JW Speaker LED headlights which were awesome have the stock headlights improved at all on the JL's

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Old 06-16-2019, 05:40 AM   #2
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My JLU Sport headlights seem fine compared to other vehicles I've owned. I've had a few cars over the years with poor headlights but no issue with the stock JLU Sport.
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The headlights on my 2010 JK were terrible, so I replaced them with CIBIE lenses and more powerful bulbs. The headlights on my 2019 JL are great, but comparison and they're NOT the LEDs, just the basic headlights. Admittedly, the CIBIE setup on the JK was better, but the JL's basic lights aren't bad.
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I rented a 2018 JL and the stock lights were terrible; dim and poor coverage. Don't know if anything has changed in 2019?

So I bought the LEDs on my 2019 and they are the best lights I have had on any vehicle.
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I rented a 2018 JL and the stock lights were terrible; dim and poor coverage. Don't know if anything has changed in 2019?

So I bought the LEDs on my 2019 and they are the best lights I have had on any vehicle.
Which ones, looking for recommendations
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Which ones, looking for recommendations
I'm in the same boat... looking for 1st hand recommendations.

I watched a great youtube video by Headlight Revolution, I think it was titled something like 7" LED headlight shootout. They reviewed a few dozen headlights showing lux and light pattern test results. They showed some JW Speaker and Morimoto lights that gave very nice results.

Would still like to hear from owners which brand/model they have and love.
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I'm in the same boat... looking for 1st hand recommendations.

I watched a great youtube video by Headlight Revolution, I think it was titled something like 7" LED headlight shootout. They reviewed a few dozen headlights showing lux and light pattern test results. They showed some JW Speaker and Morimoto lights that gave very nice results.

Would still like to hear from owners which brand/model they have and love.
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the leds ae great
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I rented a 2018 JL and the stock lights were terrible; dim and poor coverage. Don't know if anything has changed in 2019?

So I bought the LEDs on my 2019 and they are the best lights I have had on any vehicle.
Do you mean you order the factory LED package for your 19? I'm currently possibly thinking of ordering and that's one option I want but can't get it on some models which is stupid so I'm just wondering if aftermarket would be the way to go or stick with the factory if it's good?
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Interested in getting the exact LED type myself. Looking at this. Two things are making it tough. They need to have heaters for ice/snow (Canadian), and also do DRL (Daytime Running Lights).

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I put HID projectors in mine. After having Phillips LEDs in my JK I couldn't function with halogens
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Interested in getting the exact LED type myself. Looking at this. Two things are making it tough. They need to have heaters for ice/snow (Canadian), and also do DRL (Daytime Running Lights).

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The JW SPeaker 8700 w/ Heated Lens will suffice for the ice/snow but don't have DRLs. They give good light and coverage. You could also check out DiodeDynamics Switchback Turn Signal LEDs which might meet your needs for a DRL.

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You can buy the factory leds for an apple-style price :-D
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You can buy the factory leds for an apple-style price :-D
Yes its a 995 option and it looks like you can buy em from mopar for that
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Which ones, looking for recommendations
I ordered the JL with the OEM LEDs. They are excellent.
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The stock headlights are very good. Phenomenal compared to the JKs lights. The LEDs are really nice, but are way too bright for oncoming traffic. They are not needed, especially for their price tag IMO.
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My '18 JLUR had the standard lights from the factory. They were slightly brighter than my old JK's, but I still had to run my fog lights at night, even in the city. I'm getting older, so probably just Father Time kicking in. I swapped my old JK headlights/fog lights out for JW Speakers and loved them, so I was planning on upgrading the JL to LED replacements at some point. I love the look of the factory LED's, but these weren't available when I was shopping around. A buddy of mine suggested LED replacement bulbs as an alternative. He bought his from Headlight Revolution and was very happy with them. I ended up giving them a shot and bought their V.4 Upgraded Headlight and Fog Light bulbs. Very happy with these bulbs, and easy to install. The headlights are brighter than the factory headlights and fog lights combined, not to mention a wider light path. The fog lights are SUPER bright. I'm constantly blinding the wildlife in our neighborhood at night. I can freeze a squirrel in his tracks at night from 100 FT away. Anyway, MUCH cheaper than replacement lights. Also, I have the MOPAR 2-inch lift, and I'm sitting on 37's. I adjusted my lights down, and I have not been flashed once by oncoming traffic. That being said, if I come across of reasonably-priced stock LED headlights, I may still swap them out because they look sweet on the JL's.
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The JW SPeaker 8700 w/ Heated Lens will suffice for the ice/snow but don't have DRLs. They give good light and coverage. You could also check out DiodeDynamics Switchback Turn Signal LEDs which might meet your needs for a DRL.

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I just ordered a 2019 JLU Sport Altitude unfortunately the LED lights are not an option on the sport and the stock headlights on my JK really sucked so I replaced them with JW Speaker LED headlights which were awesome have the stock headlights improved at all on the JL's
Dumb question here, but what's in the Altitude that makes it different?
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Dumb question here, but what's in the Altitude that makes it different?
Altitude Package:

Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Heavy-Duty Brakes
Gloss Black Instrument Panel Bezels
Body-Color Grille
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Heavy-Duty Suspension with Gas Shocks
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Black Interior Accents
Power Windows with Front One-Touch-Down Feature
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Security Alarm
Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors
Automatic Headlamps
Hard Top Headliner
Leather-Wrapped Steering Wheel
Black Freedom Top® 3-Piece Hard Top
Delete Soft Top
Rear Window Wiper / Washer
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Altitude Package:

Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Heavy-Duty Brakes
Gloss Black Instrument Panel Bezels
Body-Color Grille
Wrangler Decal
Gloss Black Jeep Badge
Heavy-Duty Suspension with Gas Shocks
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Ah thank you. That's a lot, certainly desirable things like the hard top, brakes, and headlights. I'm educated now!
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The JL halogen lights do still suck.

Watch some of the videos Headlight Revolution has on their YouTube channel and you'll see that for only $150 you can DRASTICALLY improve your lights. The Supernova V.4 bulbs in particular are amazing and have a tight beam pattern.
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I got the LED package specifically because Halogen lights are just plain terrible. They suck more power, they don't even last remotely as long and under moderate/bad road conditions, you can barely see anything.

My JLU's LEDs combined with fog lights is a daydream under the worst conditions.
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The JL halogen lights do still suck.

Watch some of the videos Headlight Revolution has on their YouTube channel and you'll see that for only $150 you can DRASTICALLY improve your lights. The Supernova V.4 bulbs in particular are amazing and have a tight beam pattern.
That will be among my first mods certainly better than playing 1K for the mopar LED's !
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That will be among my first mods certainly better than playing 1K for the mopar LED's !

It will be money well spent. Trust me.
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I've had no vision problems with my standard headlamps on my 2018 JLU.
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When it comes time to buy my JLU (hopefully in the not too distant future), I plan to get one with the stock headlights...they really are not that great, but I'll replace them with VisionX LEDs (that is what I have on my JK), which are awesome, and at about $600ish, are cheaper than the MOPAR option and have a lifetime warranty.
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I just ordered a 2019 JLU Sport Altitude unfortunately the LED lights are not an option on the sport and the stock headlights on my JK really sucked so I replaced them with JW Speaker LED headlights which were awesome have the stock headlights improved at all on the JL's
I would 100% replace them with some LED bulbs. My stock bulbs were okay, but I wanted better visibility in the rain and fog. Congratulations on your new purchase, you will love it.

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