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Old 11-25-2019, 11:26 AM
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Jeep now charging extra for half of their paint colors?????

When did that start? And why?

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Old 11-25-2019, 11:33 AM   #2
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Not sure how long they've been doing it, but FWIW I paid an extra hundred something for the Billet Silver Metallic on my 2016 JK.

Some paints do cost more than others due to the pigments and other things required to blend them. But the most likely reason is to make more profit. This isn't an uncommon practice.. most companies charge extra for 'premium' paints.

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My understanding is that on JL it started with the most recent price increases last October, along with a myriad of other additional charges on things like the V6, and the automatic transmission is now close to $3,000.

Soon enough Jeep will start charging extra for the rubber on the tires and the glass on the windows...

Meanwhile, my local dealer sent me a flyer that they will be offering Employee Pricing, roughly 10% off MSRP, on any vehicle in stock, including Wranglers.
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Next,do you want it in bare metal or painted for an additional charge,some colors extra.My butt puckered when I paid 1200.00 for the auto and 150.00 for 3.73s.Sheeze.
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When did that start? And why?
So they can lower the base price...


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Funny I looked at two billet silver gladiators and one has the up charge on the sticker the other does not. looks like Granite, Billet and blue have recently included a $195 uncharge.
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Iím seeing a lot of people, particularly in northern areas, opting to factory order a Sahara just to be able to get the Selec-Trac.

Selec-Trac is still relatively affordable at only $500 extra. Iím sure that is bound to change if it proves popular.
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Iím seeing a lot of people, particularly in northern areas, opting to factory order a Sahara just to be able to get the Selec-Trac.

Selec-Trac is still relatively affordable at only $500 extra. Iím sure that is bound to change if it proves popular.
You let the cat out of the bag.The bean counters are going raise the price for the Selec-Trac option now.That is a good deal.Ill definitely look at the Sahara when I move up to a JL.
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It’s been common practice for a long time by other car and motorcycle companies to charge extra for premium colors (says the guy with a white Jeep).
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When did that start? And why?
The first I'm aware of was back in the 1900's. Some colors and paint jobs are more expensive than others, so they charge more for them.
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It is true that automakers charge extra for some paint colors. However, I think the point being raised is that Jeep wasnít charging extra for any JL colors until it raised prices, for the nth time, last October.
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I ordered my 2020 before the new pricing models came out so the dealer honored it. I was shocked as well when I saw the up-charge for different colors and the auto trans going from $2000 in 2019 to $2500 in 2020 to $2750 when they started selling.

It is getting ridiculous.
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Not sure how long they've been doing it, but FWIW I paid an extra hundred something for the Billet Silver Metallic on my 2016 JK.

Some paints do cost more than others due to the pigments and other things required to blend them. But the most likely reason is to make more profit. This isn't an uncommon practice.. most companies charge extra for 'premium' paints.
When I ordered my 16 JKUR in Billet, there was no extra charge for the paint.
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On the bright side for owners now I would think that ever rising MSRP’s would help resale values on used Jeeps. A 55K+ model might be way out of reach but a lightly used 45K may not be.
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Don't know if this applies to Jeeps but my wife just purchased a new Subaru Outback. When we were choosing the color I asked the salesman if there were additional charges for certain colors as I know some cars have that. There weren't but he said some cars charge extra for white, for example, because they have to put on extra layers to get right effect/shade.
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Exactly why I did not buy another one! Cheap bastards.
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I just did a 2020 build of my '14. $55K (MSRP). Plus T&L would be $60K+ in Calif. Looks like i am married to my '14. BTW,, a Ford explorer ST with 400HP is the same price. My 2014 Ram 2500 Laramie, loaded with diesel and all was $55K OTD new. In 2000 my house was worth $230K,,, today its $700K.. Now that I am retired I can't afford anything I own.
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I ordered my 2020 JLUR in September and none of the colors had the surcharge at that time. I first noticed the increase a month or so ago. I ordered Firecracker Red (which isn't an upcharge) and I built a 100% identical Rubicon to mine today and it's $500 more than my 2020 I ordered a few months ago. Jeep just keeps upping little things by a hundred bucks here and there, but it adds up. The fact that they do it midway through model years is even stranger. I love my Jeep dearly, but they just nickle and dime the crap out of us. Don't get me started on the $1,495 destination charge...
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Extra $$$ for special Paint

As I know, multiple MFGRs charge extra for some colors.. It is not to increase profits .. many paints cost significantly more than others and MFGRs are only maintaining margins across the product lines. Visit a local Body Shop and ask them about the costs for paints.. Some sell for $300 or more per pint.
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The curious part is that FCA wasn’t charging extra for those colors. It started after the latest round of general price increases.

Sorry, but the way FCA has been handling prices since JL came out stinks of endless greed.
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The curious part is that FCA wasnít charging extra for those colors. It started after the latest round of general price increases.

Sorry, but the way FCA has been handling prices since JL came out stinks of endless greed.

Completely agreed. I love my JL but I loved my JK too and it was paid off. Sometimes I'm surprised I actually went out and ordered a new JL despite my sticker shock. Upgrading to a Sahara or Rubicon in the future seems unlikely.

The thing that's weird to me is the fact they're still raising prices. It was understandable with the JK as they were literally selling every single one they could. I knew the JL was going to be priced high in comparison. But with the excessive inventory they've had and still have including 2018s the continued increases make zero sense to me.
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I just did a 2020 build of my '14. $55K (MSRP). Plus T&L would be $60K+ in Calif.

Pretty fast evolution - I paid half that for my 17 with the ricer rod appearance package (blue Sahara)
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Completely agreed. I love my JL but I loved my JK too and it was paid off. Sometimes I'm surprised I actually went out and ordered a new JL despite my sticker shock. Upgrading to a Sahara or Rubicon in the future seems unlikely.

The thing that's weird to me is the fact they're still raising prices. It was understandable with the JK as they were literally selling every single one they could. I knew the JL was going to be priced high in comparison. But with the excessive inventory they've had and still have including 2018s the continued increases make zero sense to me.
Same here. I don’t see myself getting rid of my JL any time soon given how fast prices keep going up.

Just for kicks I built a 2020 JL exactly the same as my 2018: the V6 is now an option, the price of the automatic, the painted hardtop, the 8.4” screen, etc., all have gone up $200 here, $100 there... Total MSRP comes out $2,500 higher for the exact same vehicle.

My Jeep was built in 8/2018. That’s 5% inflation in 14 months.
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Makes me appreciate my 10A more every day. I paid $42K for it in 2013... only has 55K miles.

I need to get the restoration finished on the XJ and start rotating them.

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Same here. I donít see myself getting rid of my JL any time soon given how fast prices keep going up.

Just for kicks I built a 2020 JL exactly the same as my 2018: the V6 is now an option, the price of the automatic, the painted hardtop, the 8.4Ē screen, etc., all have gone up $200 here, $100 there... Total MSRP comes out $2,500 higher for the exact same vehicle.

My Jeep was built in 8/2018. Thatís 5% inflation in 14 months.
Yup, I just did mine spec to spec. My order from February 2019 has went up from 41.6k sticker to 43.3k for the same exact options. That's crazy.
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Makes me appreciate my 10A more every day. I paid $42K for it in 2013... only has 55K miles.

I need to get the restoration finished on the XJ and start rotating them.

I paid $28.5K for my new 2014 WW JKU. Donít imagine there is anything today new that would even come close to that. I now have 24K miles as I mostly only drive her for off road camping trips. As long as I can still get replacement parts no plan on selling anytime soon. Even if I needed to put an LS3 in, it would still cost less in the end vs. buying new. Plus I have PR60s and an Atlas both of which I wouldnít want to part with.
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I for the life of me do not know why people are surprised prices keep going up..they have gone up pretty much every year for as long as they have been selling cars, trucks and motorcycles. Wages go up, cost of manufacturing goes up, cost of certifying goes up, taxes goes up not sure how the end product could stay the same price.
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I for the life of me do not know why people are surprised prices keep going up..they have gone up pretty much every year for as long as they have been selling cars, trucks and motorcycles. Wages go up, cost of manufacturing goes up, cost of certifying goes up, taxes goes up not sure how the end product could stay the same price.

The issue is that for the last decade, until the last couple of years, US wages have been nearly stagnant. The Jeep costs seem to rise disproportionately to wages and more importantly to other auto manufacturers. I recently compared a new Audi S4 to the one I bought new in 2010 and the percentage increase is nowhere near the Jeep. Either FCA is inept at managing manufacturing costs (likely) or they are thinking theyíre riding high without much competition and can put the screws to the consumer.
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FWIW... this issue with metallic paints costing more is standard practice -- that applies to many industries.

I know with metallic printing inks, during production and cleanup, the material needs to be handled as hazardous waste. I'm assuming automotive metallic paints need to be handled the same.

All other soy-based inks or water-based paint products can go down the drain -- and I'm not suggesting FCA discards their waste down the local municipal sewage systems. EPA rules the land..

I think the paint price modeling comes from activity-based cost accounting... yes, the beancounters want to know exactly how much it costs to assure appropriate markups and gross margins.

It's good for forecasting...

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Either FCA is inept at managing manufacturing costs (likely) or they are thinking theyíre riding high without much competition and can put the screws to the consumer.
I think FCA is getting better at understanding manufacturing costs, rework costs, and ASCOS.

The only way they can survive across the entire portfolio and support the failing product lines, is applying higher margins on the models that are resistant to market fluctuations.

That's the Jeep Wrangler...

I think that's why prices are rising disproportionately...

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