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Old 01-15-2018, 03:48 PM
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Jl door weight

Does anyone know the weight compared to the Jk door weight?

I think Jk was around 60lb? Jl feels lighter when opening and closing while on the hinge. I want to know if anyone knowns the actual weight.

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When you buy one then you can weigh it....
The weight is only relevant to the actual person picking it up, anyways.

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I want to know how much extra work the new hinges are with the door checks. Do we really need door checks? It's a Wrangler, we all know how the doors work.
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When you buy one then you can weigh it....
The weight is only relevant to the actual person picking it up, anyways.
The weight is NOT only relevant to the actual person picking it up.

62lb's is 62lb's.

I am not asking if it feels heavy. I am asking how many lb's the door weighs.

As I already stated. "I want to know if anyone knowns the actual weight."
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I want to know how much extra work the new hinges are with the door checks. Do we really need door checks? It's a Wrangler, we all know how the doors work.
The door checks dont seem too bad. They look loke they could be removed as well.

they are attached to the body with 1 torx screw. remove that screw and remove doors as usual.

The checks also look to be attached to the door with 2 nuts. So it looks like if you remove these 2 nuts, you can remove door checks from the door and your doors fuction like previous model doors.

(this is what i could see at the dealership yesterday) I wasnt exactly looking at the details and taking notes but i do remember looking at the door checks because I remove my doors almost everyday.
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When you buy one then you can weigh it....
The weight is only relevant to the actual person picking it up, anyways.
The weight is NOT only relevant to the actual person picking it up.

62lb's is 62lb's.

I am not asking if it feels heavy. I am asking how many lb's the door weighs.

As I already stated. "I want to know if anyone knowns the actual weight."
It's either the person trying to pick it up can or cannot, regardless how much it weights. So it's is only relevant to that person at that moment in time.
1 person can't lift 30' pole that weighs 5#'s but that same person could easily lift a 2' pole that weighs the same, Weight can become irrelevant.
Call a jeep dealers parts dept & ask them what the shipping weight of a JL door is, you can do that...
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It's either the person trying to pick it up can or cannot, regardless how much it weights. So it's is only relevant to that person at that moment in time.
1 person can't lift 30' pole that weighs 5#'s but that same person could easily lift a 2' pole that weighs the same, Weight can become irrelevant.
Call a jeep dealers parts dept & ask them what the shipping weight of a JL door is, you can do that...
He just asked for the weight of the doors. Seems like a straight forward, simple question to me.
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I agree. I dont know how this guy made it so complicated.

I know the doors are an inch wider (hinge to latch) but being made of aluminum make me want to know the "actual" weight.

Thanks for understanding.

I thought i was going nuts. I dont know how someone can misunderstand a very simple question. I was not asking for his philosophical view.


All I want to know is what is the ACTUAL weight of a JL door.
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It's either the person trying to pick it up can or cannot, regardless how much it weights. So it's is only relevant to that person at that moment in time.
1 person can't lift 30' pole that weighs 5#'s but that same person could easily lift a 2' pole that weighs the same, Weight can become irrelevant.
Call a jeep dealers parts dept & ask them what the shipping weight of a JL door is, you can do that...

Weight is weight. 1 lb is 1 lb. it does not matter if it is bricks or feathers or 30' poles or 2' poles.

You are speaking of other factors.

If you read my post correctly, I am asking for a weight NOT if someone can pick it up or not.

The dealership parts department dont know these specs (weight). even if they had the ability to order these parts right now, dealership parts ordering systems dont give "shipping weights". Calling them is a waste of their time and mine. (I previously worked in a parts department for Subaru, GM and Chrysler)
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The door checks dont seem too bad. They look loke they could be removed as well.

they are attached to the body with 1 torx screw. remove that screw and remove doors as usual.

The checks also look to be attached to the door with 2 nuts. So it looks like if you remove these 2 nuts, you can remove door checks from the door and your doors fuction like previous model doors.

(this is what i could see at the dealership yesterday) I wasnt exactly looking at the details and taking notes but i do remember looking at the door checks because I remove my doors almost everyday.
Thanks for the info. My deal is I want it as easy as possible to take the doors off a a moments notice. That way I do it often. If it becomes a chore to do, a lot of us won't do it. One more bolt to take off per door......is 4 more bolts to remove. One more step.

This is why I already take off the door hinge bolts in the summer and leave them off. One less step when I want to remove the doors. Now it looks like I have one more step. Maybe I can take off the checks totally in the summer, just like you said.
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Thanks for the info. My deal is I want it as easy as possible to take the doors off a a moments notice. That way I do it often. If it becomes a chore to do, a lot of us won't do it. One more bolt to take off per door......is 4 more bolts to remove. One more step.

This is why I already take off the door hinge bolts in the summer and leave them off. One less step when I want to remove the doors. Now it looks like I have one more step. Maybe I can take off the checks totally in the summer, just like you said.

I do the same as you. I took the hinge bolts off literally the second day I owned my wrangler. I think that may be why I took notice in the Jl hinge. If I remember, next time I am in town I will try to stop by a dealer and take a photo of a door hinge.
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I do the same as you. I took the hinge bolts off literally the second day I owned my wrangler. I think that may be why I took notice in the Jl hinge. If I remember, next time I am in town I will try to stop by a dealer and take a photo of a door hinge.
Great thanks. If the checks come off easy enough, I'm used to not having them (actually like it this way now) so I may take them off and leave them off. This is assuming the straps and electrical harness are stong enough to handle the door weight without the stops.
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There is some very interesting articles and videos about the 2018 at this site.


2018 Jeep Wrangler – Jeep Daily | Jeep News and Videos
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I found the answer to the weight of the door. I just happened to be reading Jalopnik when:

With the connector and limit strap disconnected, and the check strap and door hinges unbolted, removing the door is as simple as lifting 47 pounds of aluminum and steel (or 34 pounds if it’s a rear door).


https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-t...-je-1821167114
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I agree. I dont know how this guy made it so complicated.

I know the doors are an inch wider (hinge to latch) but being made of aluminum make me want to know the "actual" weight.

Thanks for understanding.

I thought i was going nuts. I dont know how someone can misunderstand a very simple question. I was not asking for his philosophical view.


All I want to know is what is the ACTUAL weight of a JL door.
It can be carried by 27 European swallows.
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It can be carried by 27 European swallows.
Nah, they'd have to have it on a line.
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Nah, they'd have to have it on a line.
What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
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I found the answer to the weight of the door. I just happened to be reading Jalopnik when:

With the connector and limit strap disconnected, and the check strap and door hinges unbolted, removing the door is as simple as lifting 47 pounds of aluminum and steel (or 34 pounds if it’s a rear door).


https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-t...-je-1821167114


Thanks so much. I believe that is about a 15lb weight saving for each front door.
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I found the answer to the weight of the door. I just happened to be reading Jalopnik when:

With the connector and limit strap disconnected, and the check strap and door hinges unbolted, removing the door is as simple as lifting 47 pounds of aluminum and steel (or 34 pounds if it’s a rear door).


https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-t...-je-1821167114

I went to the link you posted and it actually breaks down the weights

"Taking the front and rear doors off the JL Wrangler is simple, especially since they’re 14 pounds and seven pounds lighter, respectively, than before."

It also shows a good pic of the door check.
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Great thanks. If the checks come off easy enough, I'm used to not having them (actually like it this way now) so I may take them off and leave them off. This is assuming the straps and electrical harness are stong enough to handle the door weight without the stops.

another user posted above this link.

https://jalopnik.com/your-guide-to-t...-je-1821167114

it shows some good pics of the door checks and tethers.

There is a video at the top.

If you pause at 8:49 you get a real good view of the door check on the door side.
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What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
Why not?
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Took the doors off my JL a week ago. They were so light compared to my Jk. I’d say atleast half the weight is reduced. The hinge takes about three extra minutes. Take those off last I scratched my paint on the inside when the door moved.
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