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Old 04-13-2019, 11:03 PM
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JL Warped Door Panels

Is it me, or are many of the door panels warped on the JLs?
I see many of them with over torqued hinges perhaps??

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I notice it too. I think it might be a function of the aluminum in the door panels.


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Yes. This has been an issue since JL came out 18 months ago. It has to do with the aluminum used on the doors getting dimpled around the hinges.
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Man, I hope I don't get dimpled around my hinges.
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We have a vehicle that has all kinds of bolts, nuts, hinges, exposed - not really a feature approach with beauty in mind.

The flip side is, damage something - unbolt it and replace it ez-pz.

Try that with a Lexus or BMW
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Man, I hope I don't get dimpled around my hinges.
It appears to be more noticeable on darker colors.
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A couple weeks back I saw a JLU turning from an off-ramp, and the way the setting sun hit the side of the Jeep I thought, "WOW, I hope they got the information of the guy that sideswiped them!". As they passed I realized that's just how it was naturally, not from getting hit.

JLs seem have a big issue with this. So do F-150's. It's the aluminum being able to warp more than steel along those flat sections... and guess what vehicles have lots of flat areas...

I guess it's a good thing I can't financially justify dumping my modded JK for a new JL yet, I'd be going crazy inspecting every angle of every JL I look at.
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It's the rule of "unexpected consequences". Happens all the time. Make changes thinking all will be good and end up with new problems. Again, that is why you don't buy the first year of something.
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Let's add this anecdotal information to the ever growing list of reasons to justify not being able to buy a new JL. I'm sure it is so noticeable that you can see it on a vehicle turning many yards ahead (looks like it got side swiped) and yet no one seems to notice it when inspecting them with a fine tooth comb at the dealership on initial pickup. Go figure.
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It's the rule of "unexpected consequences". Happens all the time. Make changes thinking all will be good and end up with new problems. Again, that is why you don't buy the first year of something.
Unintended.... just sayin'
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My doors look straight so far. We will see how they hold up to an Arizona Summer but these doors are pretty tough.

I was reading email in a parking lot when a Nissan Armada pulled in the space next to me. The woman driving got out and slammed her door into my JL door, hard. Like, BAMM! hard. I was expecting at least a dent. There was nothing, not even a scratch. I was surprised.
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My doors look straight so far. We will see how they hold up to an Arizona Summer but these doors are pretty tough.

I was reading email in a parking lot when a Nissan Armada pulled in the space next to me. The woman driving got out and slammed her door into my JL door, hard. Like, BAMM! hard. I was expecting at least a dent. There was nothing, not even a scratch. I was surprised.
Hmmm. That was lucky. metal and paint are still just metal and paint. I have sliders so, usually they take the hit.
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I always park as far away as possible because of inconsiderate people in parking lots. It’s the only way to minimize door dings.
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Hmmm. That was lucky. metal and paint are still just metal and paint. I have sliders so, usually they take the hit.
I have sliders too. Maybe that helped. It was loud! I just cringed. People can be pretty ugly sometimes. P*ssed me right off.
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It's the rule of "unexpected consequences". Happens all the time. Make changes thinking all will be good and end up with new problems. Again, that is why you don't buy the first year of something.
And sometimes, the 2nd or 3rd year either...
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A couple weeks back I saw a JLU turning from an off-ramp, and the way the setting sun hit the side of the Jeep I thought, "WOW, I hope they got the information of the guy that sideswiped them!". As they passed I realized that's just how it was naturally, not from getting hit.

JLs seem have a big issue with this. So do F-150's. It's the aluminum being able to warp more than steel along those flat sections... and guess what vehicles have lots of flat areas...

I guess it's a good thing I can't financially justify dumping my modded JK for a new JL yet, I'd be going crazy inspecting every angle of every JL I look at.

It comes down to the aluminum not being as strong as steel. The sound deadening material (at least when they started to make the JL), was glued to the door. The aluminum shrinks to form to the sound deadening material when heated, thus uneven metal. The assembly method may have changed, but it does not sound like it.
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I have sliders too. Maybe that helped. It was loud! I just cringed. People can be pretty ugly sometimes. P*ssed me right off.

That's probably what her door hit. I noticed several years ago that while I had a few door dings in my TJ Rubicon, and had none on my '15 Sahara. Then one day like you I had just pulled into a parking slot when the passenger in the other vehicle opened the door and wham - I felt sure I was going to have a mark. But none was there.

I then stepped back a bit and noticed the even though their door had a curve outward in the center, the bottom edge was lower than my running boards which stuck out more than their door curved.

After I had the TJ painted, I put nerf bar steps on the sides just to stop the door slammers.
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I was in a dealership having my JK engine tick listened to and there was a black JLU on the floor. ALl I could think was "holy hell, what happened to those doors and how did it leave the factory that way. It was def more noticeable around the hinges.
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I have a hard time critiquing the beauty of a vehicle sitting there with exposed nuts and bolts, hinges, etc all over it.

My Jeep is pretty Dark (GCM) most people who see it say, "Hey nice Black Jeep"... whatever.
I honestly never noticed but I imagine if I look real close maybe I'd see what folks are talking about.
I say, it's a little nit-picky again, because of the nature of the vehicle in question.
IF it was my brand new Jaguar or whatever... different story.

I'll say this about Wranglers - My JK's as well as JL. You can push on all the panels and they flex like crazy. Just a gentle interaction during washing or waxing tin cans the panels. That's been for years now, My TJ did not do that.

So, to get concerned - now ... after this has been the case for what? 12 years.
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I always park as far away as possible because of inconsiderate people in parking lots. Itís the only way to minimize door dings.
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The aluminum doors donít bother me at all neither does the warping Iím seeing on mine. I donít think mines really that bad thoughItís to be expected and It always reminds me that the doors are lighter and easier to takeoff.


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The aluminum doors donít bother me at all neither does the warping Iím seeing on mine. I donít think mines really that bad thoughItís to be expected and It always reminds me that the doors are lighter and easier to takeoff.


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Your doors are the straightest I have seen. They look nearly perfect I think.
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Your doors are the straightest I have seen. They look nearly perfect I think.


Yea theyíre not too far off from my black JK. I can tell at some angles but it doesnít bother me at all. I had one of the first JLs on the block too


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My doors look straight so far. We will see how they hold up to an Arizona Summer but these doors are pretty tough.

I was reading email in a parking lot when a Nissan Armada pulled in the space next to me. The woman driving got out and slammed her door into my JL door, hard. Like, BAMM! hard. I was expecting at least a dent. There was nothing, not even a scratch. I was surprised.
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I have sliders too. Maybe that helped. It was loud! I just cringed. People can be pretty ugly sometimes. P*ssed me right off.
What did you say to her?

Damn, my girlfriend bought a new Grand Cherokee last year and she’s been tagged twice at LA Fitness parking lot. Both times she went postal on the perps (both dudes) that opened their doors into her flawless Jeep.

I told her to be careful...

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Compared to the old aluminum body defender JK/JL panels are very ok.
I have a "piano black" JK and I can find some "imperfections" on all panels
But i also see them on other more expensive cars as well
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It's funny how passions often times mirror passions...

It's (IMO) and issue of realities.

When I look at the things in my life (not People) I see the stuff that makes me happy. I choose (maybe) to not fixate on the imperfections.

Has that always been true? No. But, I will say I'm a lot happier in this mode.

It IS a Choice.

See the ding here or the whatever there OR just enjoy. I choose Enjoy. Life serves up enough S-sandwich material, needs no help from us.

Expand that philosophy as far as you can and magically your happiness factor will expand as well.
If you look too close at anything and anybody (include our self) and we can see lots of stuff that will disappoint.

Why? We all can come up with different answers to that question - I say Be a Simple Man/Woman - be content.
It really isn't a concession or admission of defeat, rather it is simply a choice to be happy.

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Wait, all JLs have aluminum doors and panels? I did not know that.

As far as imperfections on our Jeeps, they all have them. If its not this, its that. If you look hard enough, you will find them all over: paint, body gaps, leaks, the Jk lean, etc. I had a huge gap between my hood and cowl on driver's side on my new Jk. It drove me crazy for months. I finally took it in to the stealership. Surprisingly, they fixed it in no time.

I'm OCD. But I have learned not to care much about imperfections on my Jeep anymore. I just get in and enjoy.

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