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Old 03-03-2018, 07:44 PM
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Leaks again???

My last two JKU's, '07 and '12 both Sahara's dry as a bone, brand new JLU Sahara drivers side front door, leaks like a river! Floor mats under fancy new all weather "Jeep" floor mats soaked! Any others have same problem this??

Love it otherwise, only complaints other than leak (this will be hard to live with! ) Is the Bridgestone H/T's, a waste and something I laughed at on other threads, the Remote is BIG!! Also the "switchblade key" just pops out all the time!

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My current JK hard top leaks really bad, but only after a heavy rain. This is one of the reasons I may end up not getting another Wrangler/JL ever again. This is a piss poor design and you would think they would of fixed this instead of focusing on making the windshield fold down. Is this something people asked for? This is a feature I can never imagine ever using. But they decided to spend time on something I bet 99% of the Wrangler community will never ever use. They may do it once to see how it works then come to the same conclusion as the majority of us and ask WHY DO I WANT TO FOLD THE WINDSHIELD DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

Little stuff like the leaking doors drive me nuts. I had a 2002 soft top Wrangler the prior gen and it never leaked a drop, but my 2014 with a hard top leaks a ton during a heavy rain. I literally have a small pool of water after a heavy rain. I had a 1976 CJ-5 I think leaked less than my 2014 JK. Glad to know that they are continuing with this on the new JL, that makes my decision for my next vehicle a little easier. I plan to buy in about a year or two and if this is still a problem with the JL, I will be passing on it. This leaking issue has been around for awhile you would think they would of taken a few moments to fix this.

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My current JK hard top leaks really bad, but only after a heavy rain. This is one of the reasons I may end up not getting another Wrangler/JL ever again. This is a piss poor design and you would think they would of fixed this instead of focusing on making the windshield fold down. Is this something people asked for? This is a feature I can never imagine ever using. But they decided to spend time on something I bet 99% of the Wrangler community will never ever use. They may do it once to see how it works then come to the same conclusion as the majority of us and ask WHY DO I WANT TO FOLD THE WINDSHIELD DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

Little stuff like the leaking doors drive me nuts. I had a 2002 soft top Wrangler the prior gen and it never leaked a drop, but my 2014 with a hard top leaks a ton during a heavy rain. I literally have a small pool of water after a heavy rain. I had a 1976 CJ-5 I think leaked less than my 2014 JK. Glad to know that they are continuing with this on the new JL, that makes my decision for my next vehicle a little easier. I plan to buy in about a year or two and if this is still a problem with the JL, I will be passing on it. This leaking issue has been around for awhile you would think they would of taken a few moments to fix this.
We are in the same boat (no pun intended). I really hope the folks at FCA watch these threads because the top is a disaster. It is a shame to have to check the weather to see what Jeep to drive. If it is raining I drive my CJ, or TJ because they don't leak. My, JKU? I might as well drive with the top off. The floor pans fill with water every time it rains. I've done everything I can to address the issue.

I have to laugh when I see all the folks saying they are waiting for the retractable top to be available on the JLU. It will be a nightmare!!!
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Well, Both my JKU Sahara's never leaked, even the first with 2 top option. Only used soft top one season on the 2007. The 2012 only used T tops but often, but both JK's always had dry carpets.

Now I seem to be back with the JLK to my CJ days, drivers side carpet soaking. Passenger side dry as a bone, both side seem to have equal gaskets???

Well back to the dealer I suppose, they are not usually good a finding leaks I hear?? My daughter just had every gasket on her 2017 75th anniversary JKU replaced and so far "finally" fixed so it seems? Sure hope they can fix mine, thought JK/L's were past that!

I don't go for "it's a Jeep thing", we are way past that!

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My 2017 does not leak yet had a hard rain last week an all day rain no leak .
I would think in the year of 2018 it would be a no brainer guess not .
It is total BS a Wrangler that cost this much would leak .
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Have been running nothing but soft tops for about 4 years. Both jeeps running Bestop tops. (that's the company that makes softops for Mopar and BMW and a few others. I have found nearly all softops require a little tweeking to stay dry. I imagine the JL we are going to get with premium soft top will require it too.

Try not to get too bent over some leaks, keep cool and get some of that gray foam strip from lowes (not the big cell the dense soft stuff). you will find with some experimentation you can get them dried up. Cool heads prevail.
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Have been running nothing but soft tops for about 4 years. Both jeeps running Bestop tops. (that's the company that makes softops for Mopar and BMW and a few others. I have found nearly all softops require a little tweeking to stay dry. I imagine the JL we are going to get with premium soft top will require it too.

Try not to get too bent over some leaks, keep cool and get some of that gray foam strip from lowes (not the big cell the dense soft stuff). you will find with some experimentation you can get them dried up. Cool heads prevail.

You got to be kidding , right?
To pay around $40,000.00 for a brand spanking new vehicle that leaks when it rains....
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Well actually I wasn't kidding, it was more of a suggestion for those who like to work on there own vehicles and who may be new to these vehicles. they might consider it a fairly simple fix. Most leaks are, and not "the sky is falling" and I have a major catastrophe on my hands.

Yes it is a 40-50 K vehicle but the many top configurations also makes it the only one of its type. That also means slight variations in the way the top seals mate up. Rubber seals in particular.

All I can say is both my daily driven and heavily off roaded' jeeps do not leak, but they did at one time or another and I simply fixed them myself for less than a cup of coffee, without going into cardiac arrest.

Sorry to have made such a ludicrous suggestion.
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I’m in the “not acceptable” camp on this issue. I work on all of my own stuff, but a design flaw like this that had been going on for 10 years and now is not fixed in a revised model is crazy. The fact that one of these things costs $50k, even crazier. Someone above mentioned the TJ wrangler not leaking. I had three TJs and not one leaked. I had one JK and it leaked like a sieve. If you study the TJ roof design, it is clearly better where the roof meets the seals compared to the JK, if one knows anything about how water moves. I looked at a JL and was disappointed to see that the engineers carried over the same roof to seal design from the JK. They are to worried about designing Easter eggs into the Jeep instead of what matters.


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Have been running nothing but soft tops for about 4 years. Both jeeps running Bestop tops. (that's the company that makes softops for Mopar and BMW and a few others. I have found nearly all softops require a little tweeking to stay dry. I imagine the JL we are going to get with premium soft top will require it too.

Try not to get too bent over some leaks, keep cool and get some of that gray foam strip from lowes (not the big cell the dense soft stuff). you will find with some experimentation you can get them dried up. Cool heads prevail.
My 2014 JK, hardtop has been back to the dealership 3 times! I bought it brand new, special ordered it from the factory. To this day it still leaks a ton after a heavy rain. When I say a ton, I am talking about the front passenger floor being filled with several inches of water. Suggesting people who are upset with a vehicle that cost as much as these do, they should just fix it themselves and to just keep a cool head. Really? Got it, so people who complain about receiving a product that is inferior, leaks, and has problems, just fix yourself. Keep a cool head! our Jeep's have a tendency to leak! it's a Jeep thing! Deal with it! Maybe Jeep should use that as their new slogan.

This is a glaring problem that seems to have been carried over from the existing model. I am not suggesting every JK/JL leaks but based on the amount of complaints, enough of them do to warrant some sort of fix by now. My 2002 Wrangler soft top didn't leak a drop, my 1976 CJ-5 leaked less than my current JK. If you can't admit that this is PISS POOR quality/design, I am not sure what else to say. This is a quality control thing that they would rather spend time, making the windshield fold down than fixing an existing issues.
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You should just run with the drain plugs pulled, problem solved.
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You should just run with the drain plugs pulled, problem solved.
Yup, Chesty Puller lots tougher than me that's for sure!! I'd like to hear what he'd say after spending nearly 50K on a vehicle! Would not I bet, just be "Semper Fi"? Actually he'd probably say "UDSoaB you're nuts for spending that", agreed!!!

I think my carpets for 48k should stay dry and the drain plugs are NOT to flush out leaks! they are to be used to clean up mud if you go for that crap! I'm not a mudder fan, I'll drive around a mud hole off roading whenever I can, no sense to me unless I have to, then let it rip!! If my doors and windows are shut I expect the mud to stay outside, just as I expect standing still the friggin' rain to do that!!If not em, let them warranty it!

This was just to see if any other new JLU owners had a similar leakorismine "special"!!!

Except for that friggin' leak

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Wow all that from a suggestion and a joke about drain plugs.... LOL Sure got yer fur in a bind there "Wolfdog".

Besides, General Puller preferred a weapons carrier with no top on it.
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I am with Bonecollector on this one. When I read the comment about several inches of water after every heavy rain, my first thought was "and the drain plugs are still in".

There has been reference to the fact that a TJ hardtop did not leak. Well, my YJ ('93) didn't leak either although there was a lot of chatter about that being a problem to the point that a friend told me that if it did not leak, to never take it off. I didn't, but not because of that.

My 2015 did not leak and the Chief got a good test when it was two months old when Irma went though - no leaks.

The issue with the JK/JKU hardtop leaks is the three way seam at the A pillar and the seals on the Freedom Panels. If they are not properly aligned, clamped down too tight or not tight enough, they leak. If one of the panels is slightly off, then there is a good possibility of a leak at the A or B pillars.

It is pointless to compare the Wrangler to other vehicles in this regard as no other vehicle has or ever has had removable panels that completely remove a roof section. One solution would be to have a non-removable section covering the front of the Jeep, a solid hard top from the header bar to the rear.

BC's solution is the soft top, which eliminates a lot of the issues of the hard top, but introduces a bit more noise. It can also be opened up completely, but needs to be renewed periodically.

If a JL leaks, take it to the dealer and have them work on it. They can give it the time and attention that is impossible on the assembly line. Most have gotten pretty good at working on the Wrangers over the last 10 years.
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If one can get past the "lions and tigers and leaks....oh my" and see what else this fine vehicle has to offer (besides a folding windshield) You might just be pleasantly surprised at just what it is you bought...

Short to the point article:

9 reasons why the 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL is Killer Off-Road
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I am with Bonecollector on this one. When I read the comment about several inches of water after every heavy rain, my first thought was "and the drain plugs are still in".

There has been reference to the fact that a TJ hardtop did not leak. Well, my YJ ('93) didn't leak either although there was a lot of chatter about that being a problem to the point that a friend told me that if it did not leak, to never take it off. I didn't, but not because of that.

My 2015 did not leak and the Chief got a good test when it was two months old when Irma went though - no leaks.

The issue with the JK/JKU hardtop leaks is the three way seam at the A pillar and the seals on the Freedom Panels. If they are not properly aligned, clamped down too tight or not tight enough, they leak. If one of the panels is slightly off, then there is a good possibility of a leak at the A or B pillars.

It is pointless to compare the Wrangler to other vehicles in this regard as no other vehicle has or ever has had removable panels that completely remove a roof section. One solution would be to have a non-removable section covering the front of the Jeep, a solid hard top from the header bar to the rear.

BC's solution is the soft top, which eliminates a lot of the issues of the hard top, but introduces a bit more noise. It can also be opened up completely, but needs to be renewed periodically.

If a JL leaks, take it to the dealer and have them work on it. They can give it the time and attention that is impossible on the assembly line. Most have gotten pretty good at working on the Wrangers over the last 10 years.
I call BS on them getting good at working on the Wranglers. Mine as I have said before, was brought back 3 TIMES! the seals were replaced, panels adjusted, etc, and it still leaks. As for your brilliant idea of removing the drain plugs what is your solution to the SOAKING wet passenger seat? or is that also my problem, not Jeeps inferior shit design? This problem has existed for more than 10 years, it should of been fixed by now.

The only thing I can figure is there are people out there like you and Bone who would buy a giant turd with four wheels, if it had the wrangler label on it and accept that it's a Jeep thing. You and others like you can defend a shit design, I will not. FYI I have tried several of the fixes with seals from home depot, etc, the only reason my JK doesn't leak even during light rains is because of the extra seals from home depot. I followed several links from this site on how to fix etc. Before I did that, it leaked all the time. You can love the Wrangler and admit that this BS problem is LONG over due to be fixed. Just saying!

Make no mistake, I love my Wrangler, however the leak is F***ing annoying. It is also the reason I am holding off on trading in for the new JL. Going to wait a year or two so they can work the bugs out of it, and hopefully fix issues like this. If the leak still exist when I decide to trade mine in, I will not be buying another Jeep.
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The only thing I can figure is there are people out there like you and Bone who would buy a giant turd with four wheels, if it had the wrangler label on it and accept that it's a Jeep thing.
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I dont know Glock, I have 109,000 miles on one, It's been on most of the famous trails in Ouray. Its hauled in at least two dozen deer and lost count of wild hogs. It goes into Shell, Exxon, Valero, Refineries for work, It is a daily driver,,,,,, It don't leak. The other has 55,000 on it been on All trails in Ouray, Escallante Staircase, Been on hunts, ran couple hundred miles of National seashore, driven to medical center everyday for wife's work and it didn't leak till it got destroyed in a rollover accident on the highway last Wednesday. It leaks now....But it didn,t for the last two years after that 50cents worth of weather stripping on her Bestop Pro.

Gonna get that softop JL Rubi with the beefed up axles, and deeper geared tranny, slap some 35s on it for starters, and by the time we take delivery will be able to install a Rock Krawler mid arm lift on it, we'll fix the leaks in the roof and go on enjoying life to the fullest.

It must suck being not being able to dance in the rain....with wet britches

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I dont know Glock, I have 109,000 miles on one, It's been on most of the famous trails in Ouray. Its hauled in at least two dozen deer and lost count of wild hogs. It goes into Shell, Exxon, Valero, Refineries for work, It is a daily driver,,,,,, It don't leak. The other has 55,000 on it been on All trails in Ouray, Escallante Staircase, Been on hunts, ran couple hundred miles of National seashore, driven to medical center everyday for wife's work and it didn't leak till it got destroyed in a rollover accident on the highway last Wednesday. It leaks now....But it didn,t for the last two years after that 50cents worth of weather stripping on her Bestop Pro.

Gonna get that softop JL Rubi with the beefed up axles, and deeper geared tranny, slap some 35s on it for starters, and by the time we take delivery will be able to install a Rock Krawler mid arm lift on it, we'll fix the leaks in the roof and go on enjoying life to the fullest.

It must suck being not being able to dance in the rain....with wet britches

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The fact that you personally have not had issues with your JK not leaking doesn't make it any less of a problem. A quick google search will prove to you that I am not the only one who thinks a 10 year old issue should of been fixed by now. The fact that you are willing to fix a problem that should not exist, with all the complaints, also doesn't make the complaint any less valid. For what these things cost I should not have to sink a single dime into fixing things I did not break.

Lastly I don't recall asking for your opinion on firearms, besides opinions are like assholes, everyone has one on guns. My tag, is just that, a tag, not an endorsement of any particular brand. I do not have brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is for those who buy giant turds.
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I’m in the “not acceptable” camp on this issue. I work on all of my own stuff, but a design flaw like this that had been going on for 10 years and now is not fixed in a revised model is crazy. The fact that one of these things costs $50k, even crazier. Someone above mentioned the TJ wrangler not leaking. I had three TJs and not one leaked. I had one JK and it leaked like a sieve. If you study the TJ roof design, it is clearly better where the roof meets the seals compared to the JK, if one knows anything about how water moves. I looked at a JL and was disappointed to see that the engineers carried over the same roof to seal design from the JK. They are to worried about designing Easter eggs into the Jeep instead of what matters.


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I'm with you! Maybe that's why they put the flip flops on the hood of the JL. They are the only shoes you can wear without ruining them in the JK and I guess the JL too since there is generally about 2 inches of water in the floor pans. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.wranglerforum.com/images/smilies/puke.gif[/IMG]
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The fact that you personally have not had issues with your JK not leaking doesn't make it any less of a problem. A quick google search will prove to you that I am not the only one who thinks a 10 year old issue should of been fixed by now. The fact that you are willing to fix a problem that should not exist, with all the complaints, also doesn't make the complaint any less valid. For what these things cost I should not have to sink a single dime into fixing things I did not break.

Lastly I don't recall asking for your opinion on firearms, besides opinions are like assholes, everyone has one on guns. My tag, is just that, a tag, not an endorsement of any particular brand. I do not have brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is for those who buy giant turds.
I honestly hope that your leak issues get resolved, It does indeed stink to have to deal with problems like that. A leak is a problem.

And on the Glock issue that was merely an assumption and yes those discussions usually go down hill in a hurry.

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I can't believe these stupid things are still leaking. Is it that hard to design a roof that doesn't leak?
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I can't believe these stupid things are still leaking. Is it that hard to design a roof that doesn't leak?
Apparently it is or else the problem would have been solved long ago.
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I can't believe these stupid things are still leaking. Is it that hard to design a roof that doesn't leak?
No designing a roof that doesn't leak is easy........designing a roof that can be completely removed in pieces or in total is obviously not as easy.

@Bonecollector , where do you put the gray weatherstripping? A pillar upper corner down to the floor?

All BS aside, I had hopes that the Jeep engineers finally figured out a way to stop most leaks. I'll reserve judgement until I hear from more JL owners. One leak case does not necessarily extrapolate to the entire JL population.

PS. Both my Jks have minor leaks, but only when it's really pouring for hours and hours and it's not enough to even worry about. A towel or two for those really heavy rain days and I'm good. I've heard of guys experiencing the inch or two of water in the foot wells, but have never seen that (except the time I left the top off overnight and it poured). For inches of water inside I would certainly imagine there is a gaping hole somewhere, there has to be.

By the way, soft tops can be less leaky because the top is all one solid piece unlike the 3 piece hardtop.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:14 AM   #25
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As a soon to be JL owner, this is something I plan on testing as much as I possibly can at home to surface any issues early. I'm not going to lose my mind if it does leak, but I want to be aware of how much and where, if there are any at all. I did go with the 3 piece hard top, so the likelihood is pretty good that I will have something going on.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:17 PM   #26
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Well actually I wasn't kidding, it was more of a suggestion for those who like to work on there own vehicles and who may be new to these vehicles. they might consider it a fairly simple fix. Most leaks are, and not "the sky is falling" and I have a major catastrophe on my hands.

Yes it is a 40-50 K vehicle but the many top configurations also makes it the only one of its type. That also means slight variations in the way the top seals mate up. Rubber seals in particular.

All I can say is both my daily driven and heavily off roaded' jeeps do not leak, but they did at one time or another and I simply fixed them myself for less than a cup of coffee, without going into cardiac arrest.

Sorry to have made such a ludicrous suggestion.
After reading the replies so far, it certainly looks like you stepped in the dog poop. Don't worry it comes off. 😉
To sorta defend you a little and the idea of Jeep self reliance I will say. It was nice of you to suggest a fix for the problems of a leaky roof.

In the basic jeep world one would be expected to just fix the problems occurring themselves. As you have said. Bravo,, you are to me a true Jeeper!

My TJ just has a soft top and it doesn't leak. But I didn't pay the cost of a new Jk or even JL . So if it did leak I would figure it out myself with out a second thought.
Self reliance is a part of Jeep life. I would think anyone buying a Jeep of any kind would already be pretty self reliant .

Oh the other hand, anyone buying a NEW product of any kind has a right to expect that product to function properly.
For a New vehicle at today's prices,,,especially a 'Jeep ' to have such a glaring consistent flaw is unforgivable and should be made public.
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After reading the replies so far, it certainly looks like you stepped in the dog poop. Don't worry it comes off. 😉
To sorta defend you a little and the idea of Jeep self reliance I will say. It was nice of you to suggest a fix for the problems of a leaky roof.

In the basic jeep world one would be expected to just fix the problems occurring themselves. As you have said. Bravo,, you are to me a true Jeeper!

My TJ just has a soft top and it doesn't leak. But I didn't pay the cost of a new Jk or even JL . So if it did leak I would figure it out myself with out a second thought.
Self reliance is a part of Jeep life. I would think anyone buying a Jeep of any kind would already be pretty self reliant .

Oh the other hand, anyone buying a NEW product of any kind has a right to expect that product to function properly.
For a New vehicle at today's prices,,,especially a 'Jeep ' to have such a glaring consistent flaw is unforgivable and should be made public.
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Absolutely. I have my arbitration for this in a few weeks. Can't seem to fix the leak and it's getting really old.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:59 PM   #28
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After reading the replies so far, it certainly looks like you stepped in the dog poop. Don't worry it comes off. 😉
To sorta defend you a little and the idea of Jeep self reliance I will say. It was nice of you to suggest a fix for the problems of a leaky roof.

In the basic jeep world one would be expected to just fix the problems occurring themselves. As you have said. Bravo,, you are to me a true Jeeper!

My TJ just has a soft top and it doesn't leak. But I didn't pay the cost of a new Jk or even JL . So if it did leak I would figure it out myself with out a second thought.
Self reliance is a part of Jeep life. I would think anyone buying a Jeep of any kind would already be pretty self reliant .

Oh the other hand, anyone buying a NEW product of any kind has a right to expect that product to function properly.
For a New vehicle at today's prices,,,especially a 'Jeep ' to have such a glaring consistent flaw is unforgivable and should be made public.
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I began learning these things in the Corps, started my own business 30 years ago, and from working in refining, chemical plants, paper mils, copper mining industries, I found out that regardless how much you pay for something, regardless of where you buy it, no man made product is perfect. Transformers, switchgear that companies pay millions for have problems and defects. You don't wait for some techy" to solve and unless it is catastrophic, you fix it and get it done.

I understand some of the complaints, but I also know if I can deal with it, it is far easier to "fix it" than to make repeated trips to a dealer so some high school kid who knows all the tricks to his cell phone, is completely confused as to which end of a box end wrench is the open end.

Its not a hero tough guy thing it is something that I'm afraid may be disappearing. I have a 14 year old grandson that wrenches on our jeeps with me for fun who has more drive and mechanical skills than most of the job applicants I get.

Its a frame of mind more than anything else. I know my early model Bronco had me doing repairs in the snow and had me cussing it and saying it was a piece of shite, yet I loved it too.

We are ordering an Ocean Blue Rubi JL from River Oaks Dodge Jeep at 10:30 in the morning and I will have my wrenches ready to go....
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Old 03-10-2018, 11:10 AM   #29
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This is an answer to a PM. Apparently I cannot send pics via PM. These pictures are of the strips I applied about three years ago not long after I installed the top. Bare in mind yours may not leak in the same place but the same type of "repair" should apply. Also as I mentioned in the PM where the water enters the "cabin may not be where it is actually leaking. The water from this leak actually entered the cabin several inches down along the side of the passenger door as well as behind the plastic molding on the A pillar. A hard rain produces several inches of water on the floor and drenched all carpeting. It also would drip off the grab bars. Very bad leak and very cheep long lasting fix. It was hard to find and it did take several tries. This has not leaked for over three years and you can see it appears to actually be an original part of the top. I really hope this helps "Greenegg".

EDIT: The red piece is just to show contrast as to where the strip went in case the real fix is not noticeable enough.

For those who may want to hate on me for posting this, you have my apologies for ruining your day and pissing you off. it was meant for a PM as I mentioned earlier.
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It took them nearly three years to make the JK stop leaking, if they ever did. Thus one reason I will not buy a first year and maybe not a second year JL. I figure the amount of money they have spent on development on the JL will require many years to pay off so the JL body style should have a long, long run. Plenty of time to work the leaks out.

My 2006 Rubicon TJ is drier than the Sahara (the desert!) inside.

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