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Old 11-22-2019, 05:47 PM
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Planning a Wrangler purchase

I had a CJ7 back in college, loved it...loved every minute of it. Got married, kids yadda yadda. Within the last few weeks, I was deciding between a grand Cherokee (my wife loves it) and a wrangler (I love). She has a Honda Pilot and why do we need another similar type SUV? Decided to get a Wrangler Unlimited Sahara. Was thinking about a 2016, but for an extra 6k, I can get a 2018 (or by the time I buy next year, early ‘21...a 2019).

Are the 2018-2019 WUL really that much better than a 2016/2017? I am going to mod it anyhow.

Depending on what year I get, the headlights and tail lights will be changed to LED, the stock tires changed for 33’s, which leads me to questions...

Do I *need* to lift this 2.5” to use 33’s? If I get new wheels does that change? Tired I have in mind are 295 85/R17 (I think...just started to plan things out). Probably won’t be using this for major off-roading..maybe trips on the beach, to Penn State for some tailgating...and my normal driving to and from work in Wilmington, DE via I-95.

If I need to lift, what is a recommended lift kit (I won’t be installing it, a shop will)?

What would be a nice sleek wheel/tire set that looks sleek and cool but doesn’t stick outside the vehicle massively?

I am not overly mechanically inclined but gimme a list and I will bring my Jeep life back to reality.

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33's on practically any wheel will clear stock...even 35's on some, especially if you aren't looking for wide wheels.

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Also, my opinion, go for the new body style if you are a somewhat frequent trader, the new body style will end up being worth a little more than an old body style.
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33's on practically any wheel will clear stock...even 35's on some, especially if you aren't looking for wide wheels.
Do I need new wheels with the 33” tires? Will the stock rims work?

That said, I love the look of a black wheel with grey/silver accents

Sorry so many questions.
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make sure you get remote start that is what I regret and power windows and locks
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Do I need new wheels with the 33” tires? Will the stock rims work?

That said, I love the look of a black wheel with grey/silver accents

Sorry so many questions.
Yes it will work.

This is my 2018 JLU Sahara with 33" tires (275/70R18), stock rims and no lift.



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Do I need new wheels with the 33” tires? Will the stock rims work?

That said, I love the look of a black wheel with grey/silver accents

Sorry so many questions.
Yes it will work.

This is my 2018 JLU Sahara with 33" tires (275/70R18), stock rims and no lift.



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Do I need new wheels with the 33” tires? Will the stock rims work?

That said, I love the look of a black wheel with grey/silver accents

Sorry so many questions.
Yes it will work.

This is my 2018 JLU Sahara with 33" tires (275/70R18), stock rims and no lift.



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Never mind 🙂

Nice Jeep...would it still be ok with the 295/85R17?
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Never mind 🙂

Nice Jeep...would it still be ok with the 295/85R17?
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That tire size doesn’t exist; it works out to be a 37x11.6 tire.

From what I’ve read, the max you can fit on a JLU Sahara without a lift is 33” tires. And I am pretty sure the max width you can fit on the stock wheels without rubbing is 285. You will likely need spacers if you want to retain the stock wheels, or get aftermarket wheels with more backspacing.

This website should help you play with different tire sizes and check their availability: https://tiresize.com/comparison/

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Never mind 🙂

Nice Jeep...would it still be ok with the 295/85R17?
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That tire size doesn’t exist; it works out to be a 37x11.6 tire.

From what I’ve read, the max you can fit on a JLU Sahara without a lift is 33” tires. And I am pretty sure the max width you can fit on the stock wheels without rubbing is 285. You will likely need spacers if you want to retain the stock wheels, or get aftermarket wheels with more backspacing.

This website should help you play with different tire sizes and check their availability: https://tiresize.com/comparison/

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Yes. I found that out. 285 70/R17

I am seeing people say you want a wheel with -18 offset. What’s that mean?
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Yes. I found that out. 285 70/R17

I am seeing people say you want a wheel with -18 offset. What’s that mean?
It means you need a wheel with greater backspacing --i.e., pushed farther out from the wheel hub

https://realtruck.com/blog/wheel-off...l-backspacing/

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Yes. I found that out. 285 70/R17

I am seeing people say you want a wheel with -18 offset. What’s that mean?
It means you need a wheel with greater backspacing --i.e., pushed farther out from the wheel hub

https://realtruck.com/blog/wheel-off...l-backspacing/

Ahh, so...a 17x9 -18 offset will have a tire pushed a little past the fender flare. Also would remove the need for a spacer?
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Ahh, so...a 17x9 -18 offset will have a tire pushed a little past the fender flare. Also would remove the need for a spacer?

I am not too familiar with offset; I prefer to use backspacing.

Stock Wrangler wheels have a 6.2-inch backspacing; there are a number of reputable aftermarket wheels out there with 5.2-inch backspacing that allow fitting up to 12.5-inch wide tires without the use of spacers.
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My JLUR has 315/70-17s on the stock rims ...Rancho 2" lift.
Tires look/fit/ride great. No issues rubbing or sticking out.
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Test driving today. Still a ways out but drove a 2.0L (really nice) Sahara, a 3.6L Sahara and a Rubicon. The 2L was a hard top, the Rubicon was a soft top (not spending $58k).
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The new premium soft tops are really nice! Like other posters have said, 33's should be the biggest on a sport/sahara without rubbing. I just installed a Rock Krawler 2.5" lift on mine. Install took me about 7 hours and I took my time! Very highly recommend Rock Krawler and the 2.25 RRD Shocks if you want to lift it. The ride is better than stock and gives nice lift and articulation.

Here's mine with the lift and 35" Patagonia M/T tires .. Wheels are 17x9 Venomrex with about 4.5 backspacing. It is an '18 Sport S
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The new premium soft tops are really nice! Like other posters have said, 33's should be the biggest on a sport/sahara without rubbing. I just installed a Rock Krawler 2.5" lift on mine. Install took me about 7 hours and I took my time! Very highly recommend Rock Krawler and the 2.25 RRD Shocks if you want to lift it. The ride is better than stock and gives nice lift and articulation.

Here's mine with the lift and 35" Patagonia M/T tires .. Wheels are 17x9 Venomrex with about 4.5 backspacing. It is an '18 Sport S
Not planning on lifting. Will definitely be getting 285 70/R17 tires. It’s about finding the right wheel that won’t cause rubbing issues but still looks cool yet tough.

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