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Old 11-29-2019, 07:41 AM
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Probably staying with my JK, but...

My current 2018 JK 2door is my 6th Wrangler. Obviously I love Wranglers and this one so far has been great. It tracks perfectly and drives awesome. I really want to upgrade to the Jk Rubicon 2 door but the more I read about the steering issues on the JLís the more I am leaning towards keeping what I got.

So is the steering really that bad on the JLís or is most of the complaints coming from new to Wrangler people? I had a JK with a lift that wondered all over the road and I hating driving that one. Now that I have a JK that tracks correctly I am really struggling to trade it in. I am hesitant to even lift this one.

Opinions from owners on the JL Rubicon 2 door steering are welcome. I am even considering jumping to the JK Rubicon Recon, but I really love the look of the JL

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Old 11-29-2019, 08:09 AM   #2
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My JL Sport S (I know not Rubicon) tracks fine.



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Old 11-29-2019, 08:40 AM   #3
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I’m not new to Wranglers either: JL’s steering definitely feels more vague than JK’s.

I test drove several JLs: 2018, 2019, 2020, Saharas and Rubicons, 2 and 4 door, 4 and 6 cylinders; some are better than others, but they all suffer from vague steering. Rubicons seem to exhibit it slightly less Saharas; perhaps due to the larger tires.

The worst seem to have appeared in the first production months —i.e., late 2017 through first quarter of 2018. But despite everything FCA claims to have done, a degree of vagueness remains, even on 2020s. Apparently it has to do with the new electric steering assist.

My 2018 JLU Sahara was built in October 2018; the steering feels more vague than that on any of my JKs, but less so than JLs I test drove in early 2018.

I found my Sahara sitting at a dealer 1,000 miles away. Having read some awful stories of JL owners literally driving off the road —involuntarily, that is, I was quite apprehensive when I flew out to drive it home. Thankfully, nothing close to it happened. But I have to admit I arrived completely exhausted from that drive. Three weeks later, I’d say I don’t notice it any more —I got larger tires; that seems to have helped some.

I simply got tired of waiting for FCA to fix the steering. In the end, if I wanted a JL I had to get over it. I did; no regrets.

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Old 11-29-2019, 10:03 AM
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Thanks for the replies! Itís always helpful to me to hear from current JL owners that were past JK owners.

Iím in the same boat, looking at several 2 door Rubicons that are out of state. There never seems to be any for a reasonable price in my area. I am very apprehensive about traveling to see one, only to have a test drive that leaves me regretting the trip. I would even feel more comfortable if there seemed to be a consistent fix for this issue that didnít cost thousands of dollars.
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Iíd first test drive, locally, as many JLs in the model year(s), trim level(s) and drivetrain configuration(s) as you think you would be likely to buy.

Once you have a good handle precisely on what you want, and provided you are willing to live with how a JL is likely to drive, Iíd then proceed to locate a JL at a good price sitting at a distant dealership.
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Old 11-29-2019, 01:21 PM   #6
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Several members have had a JK and test drove or own a JL.

I have Both at the same time (now) I still prefer to drive the JLUR.

Is it different than the JK? A little probably not enough to be a big deal. Are there things to diminish the vagueness - yes and they don't cost thousands.

I think FCA poked the pooch when they lightened things and changed the system for assisting the steering. That is what changed the feel IMO.
I A/B it and don't find it black and white.

DD and trips - I take the JLUR. The JK is for when I get the itch to drive a rag top with a MT. My JK is an early year 2016. My JLUR is a late year 2018 and my JK has 29K while my JLUR has 31K.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:04 PM   #7
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When the used JLUR's are 5 years old and used cost 30-40 K$ then I'll sell mine for 25K and for 10 K I'll get a good used JLUR. Today the difference would be close to 20K. But then,,,, there is the Bronco down the road.
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I traded my 2-door 2015 JK Rubicon for a 4-door JL Rubicon so Apples and Oranges for sure.

I agree that the first time I drove a JL I thought the steering felt a little vague, but like Aldo I immediately put bigger tires on it and I think it drives great.

Definitely go drive one for yourself locally before traveling somewhere, but the JL is just way better all the way around than the JK was and I loved my JK.
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I did the Rancho lift, Geo brackets (more caster) 35" tires and a HD adj front track bar. The upgraded SS and the Jeep drives great.

All stuff I would have done anyway so the fact it cured any baked in ills was a bonus.
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I owned several 2-door JKs, both Rubicon and non-Rubicon. Some were lifted, and some were stock. All of the stock suspension JKs drove better than the lifted JKs. And now I own a stock 2-door JL Rubicon. It drives the same as a stock JK to me, if anything the JL drives a little better.
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Ask yourself why you want a Rubicon and figure the upgrade costs of buying new vs moding what you own now. The math will point you in the right direction. Any JK steering issues created by mods are usually not hard to pinpoint and correct, but I'm not sure that can be said about the JL. It all depends on how much you want to spend and how much unknown risk you are willing to assume. If it was me I'd stick with what you have. I have owned Jeeps since the 80s and have had several Wranglers, but I would not buy a JL because I believe there are design flaws with the electric assist steering and frames. This is only my opinion.
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I really love the look of the stock JL Rubicon 2 door. I through about upgrading my JK by adding the same bumpers, wheels and hood, but it still will be off a little and I know in no time Iíll still want the JL. I did test drive one JL Rubicon last summer and it was all over the road. In all fairness it was raining cats and dogs so the road was very puddled. Iíll try and get out to drive a few locally. It just makes it hard to look for an out of town used JL Rubicon since some seem to be fine and others have driving issues.
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I went from a 2013 JK Rubi to a 2018 JL Rubi. Only issue was the tire pressure at 42psi from the dealer. It's much happier at 32psi. If you go for a test drive check that pressure first.
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OK, your '18 is 2 model years old so you have already taken a depreciation hit on it. If you go to a JL you will just do it again. If ya got the bucks, go for it but it is real money lost. Or, do a PC, regear, and anything else you want and wait for down the road. You are not going to get the bucks back on a mod on either JK or JL.
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Donít discourage him. Itís great when people have money to burn, in an indirect way it helps my 401k
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I have a 19 JLUM and havenít had a single issue with the steering


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