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Old 03-18-2019, 07:12 AM
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So my 2018 JLU just got the death wobble...sigh

I've felt the beginnings of it a few times recently, and then yesterday, on the highway, about to go over the Tappan Zee bridge, bam...hit a bump and...WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE. Not as severe as I had it in my 2010, but bad enough that it wouldn't subside until I pulled over and slowed down to about 15mph. I really, really don't feel like dealing with this again...especially since the dealers barely acknowledge it, never mind know how to fix it.

It's totally stock (a Sport) and 9600 miles on it. Tires properly inflated.

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I am in self imposed restriction from saying bad things about the JL.


I hope that as a fellow Jeep owner, your dealership steps up and does the right thing.



Good luck, keep us posted!
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Find another dealer. And if it happened in a 2010 guess that would be a JK wouldn’t it GC Willy.
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Dealers (I'm finding more and more) are useless ... Like having Teats on a Bull.

push it. Be unmoveable on Two Fronts ; - There IS a problem and YOU are going to Fix it.

When they realize you mean business they'll have no choice.

This Dog and Pony F'ing show "Me know see no" has to STOP.

FCA better hope that my JL keeps on keepin' on OR if she doesn't the dealer doesn't try any crap.

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Hell, I don't even own a JL yet and I receive a letter from some law firm last week about the death wobble and frame issues.

The vultures are circling.
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Hell, I don't even own a JL yet and I receive a letter from some law firm last week about the death wobble and frame issues.

The vultures are circling.
Hate it. We live in an age where companies faced with having to the right thing often times is met with "Make me".
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The death wobble happened to me a few times before, but not horrible. However tonight coming home was a different story. I thought I was going to lose control of my JLU with only a little over 7000 miles. I never felt anything like that in my JKU. Calling my dealership tomorrow. A new stock vehicle should not have this problem.
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This is so weird. Obviously a part is slowly failing as this seems to be happening as new Jeeps start to get some miles on them, hard to believe it’s not fairly obvious when up on a lift with an experienced eye.
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Take it in to your dealer and have it checked out, if you're not happy with the outcome bring it to another dealer. I would not attempt a repair on my own for this issue while under warranty. If you do you will be giving Jeep a way out if they can't solve the problem. Their out is they'll blame you for messing with it!
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to the OP and above poster if there is a place you can replicate it I would make sure the dealership drives that stretch of road or you will get the "can't duplicate the problem" excuse. I would also set up a gopro or similar device underneath to show your front end.
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Lots of threads on this.

Jeep just recently released a new track bar and also the pitman arm linkage has been revised I think. You should crawl under and have somebody turn the wheel back and forth until you find which part on yours is loose.

It's certainly NOT normal, as there are thousands of lifted JL Wranglers on the roads with zero issues....mine being one of them.
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When everything is new, it's probably something loose. The track bar has to be TIGHT.
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From where I sit the linkage doesn't look like the fix. The tie rods (3 of the 4, the drag link hasn't) have superseded, but nothing looks out of line, supply or demand wise. The clamps have superseded too, but nothing looks amiss. I like the new track bar. Which has restricted availability.
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Death wobble on a stock vehicle??
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Death wobble on a stock vehicle??
Sure. I don't care if it's the Pope mobile. If the vehicle has a solid axle it can DW.

Not just Jeeps.....
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Sure. I don't care if it's the Pope mobile. If the vehicle has a solid axle it can DW.

Not just Jeeps.....
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The reason (IMO) why DW is commonly associated with Jeep Wranglers - other than the fact they have solid axles is; We (Jeepers) modify, mutate and generally lovingly molest our vehicles way more than any other ....

Add to that fact, most molestations are executed by DIY'ers in their garages and driveways possibly with the help of "Buddies" and maybe even Beer

but seriously. Jeeps serve at the pleasure of their owners and are subjected to all kinds of use/duty. Including stock Jeeps which probably number in the majority.

Go on YouTube and search videos of Vehicle Gymnastics and Jeeps are the star of the center ring.

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Uhh stock jeeps should not have this problem.
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Boeing is having the same problem
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The FCA answer,,, Find the roads and speeds that cause the DW and avoid them. Problem solved. If you can avoid it, then you cause it. LOL.
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Come on, it's not like an offroading monster should be expected to handle every last bump on the road. You're clearly expecting too much.
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Well they could have designed the JL with independent front and rear suspension.

How do you think that would go over?

We are dealing with a suspension system that is based on the horse and buggy days. It has been greatly improved over the years, but there is only so much you can do with it.
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We could go back to leaf springs.
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Do a dry steering test and see which item is loose and needs tightening. Probably trackbar.

Also.. check to see if your tires are balanced.. maybe that bump knocked off a weight.
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I don't see any justification for getting death wobble on a new stock vehicle. My 2000 TJ with a 4" lift and 33's has never had it. Sure, by design, the straight front axle will not ride as smooth as IFS, but death wobble should not be expected from it.
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Expected? Justified? I don't recall either .... It just isn't a mystery and it isn't unique to Jeeps.

What was said is, Any vehicle with solid axle configuration can manifest DW.

I wouldn't be happy about it. Nobody is.
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Given Jeep’s history with this issue, one would think that avoiding any sort of steering or front end stability problems would have been at the top of the JL design teams “to do” list. Instead, they have what appears to be a fairly widespread problem. Ugh. I’ll wait a few years until this gets sorted.
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About the only way they can totally eliminate it is to replace every rubber bushing in the front suspension with a solid metal bushing.

Think people would go for that?
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Expected? Justified? I don't recall either .... It just isn't a mystery and it isn't unique to Jeeps.

What was said is, Any vehicle with solid axle configuration can manifest DW.

I wouldn't be happy about it. Nobody is.
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About the only way they can totally eliminate it is to replace every rubber bushing in the front suspension with a solid metal bushing.

Think people would go for that?
Death wobble is actually a pretty rare occurrence, even if talk about it on the internet seems to suggest otherwise. There have been millions of Wranglers sold over the years, not to mention many older, and some newer trucks with solid axles. My brother and sister both have TJ's and neither of theirs have done it. I've never even seen a solid axle vehicle do it on the freeway. I know it's real, I've seen videos and I was able to induce it on my TJ once by adjusting the toe in way out of whack, but I had to make it happen.

If new stock JL's are doing it, there is something wrong with the design, or the materials used in the front suspension.
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