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Old 12-08-2017, 05:43 PM
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All Electric Jeep (?)

I saw in Jeeps presentation the development of a an all electric JL by 2020?

I can dig that.

Too bad it ain’t about revitalizing the old MB version size-wise. Oh? Let me see ... something near that of a SmartFor Two.

Of course this is typed only for shits an giggles an noway is any of this viable as few to no-one gives a rip roaring fart about all electric in here I believe. But, in the spirit of creativeness I shall proceed.

First off, it would not be fair to not first take a look at what the smartfor two is all about.

Well? Its pure and simply a runabout. Pretty much what I as an old retired fart does every few days or such. I don’t give one flip about getting into the emotionalism/s over saving Mother earth either. Its about ME? My uses. Effectiveness to convenance, such as my waiting in line at Costco so as to save 30 cents a gallon versus going to a Shell station. Here in California we are being spanked by our government for virtually every crappin’ thang wrong with our state.

Tax, and FEE Californians to death. What is the relevance to that of back country exploring?

Everything.

Cost to run 200 miles with an internal combustion engine in my state will soon reach levels forcing my staying home way more than I want too. As preplanning a simple one or two day outing will be fiscally necessary for folks on a budget. Yes, it is already here for me, I’m most sure for other folks in my state. Only their credit cards will tell them at the end of the month.

Back to all electric. I have chosen SmartFor Two because in the event I wanted to travel to such an such location I could off-load my smart an use it to act as my runabout from 97% of where ever my campsite is located. Even with a short range of 70 miles that is a lot of exploration for the price per mile. Completed in virtual silence. Only now. I ask you to imagine this scenario as minus smartcar, replacing it to that of an MB Jeep like platform able to recharge off either your RV electric tree site, or your Honda Gen set.

20 amps is all a Smart requires. Think about the 70 miles range. If I am camping in a National Forest I go, I wonder around, I take photos, sometimes I pull out my ARB camp chair an merely sit. I sit my arse down and watch a babbling brook, a creek, even water falls. I just appreciate what natures lends me in that moment.

Despite the many political flatulence overtaking my great state. I do whole heartedly love my state, its many wonders it offers the off-grid seeker. I humbly suggest such a street legal all electric Brute all wheel capable rig could and would be a blast as well as a useful conveyance for this old dude to drive to the nearby Cafe to have coffee with his fellow old dudes...

Just thinking outloud is all.

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We should camp in proximity some time. I like how you think. It's funny how time changes perspectives.

I hail from Colofornia, but I have been to Kalifornia many times. A few things always seem to cross my mind when I am there. First, the natural beauty... WOW! That is generally followed by amazement at the shear numbers of people and a serious urge to vacate the premises. It truly is a paradise lost, but I understand that home is home.

That said, I agree that an electric Jeep would be the perfect toad for us old timers to explore the neighborhood when the notion strikes.
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ah yes the eco- friendliness of running transmission lines and stations to refill electric on the jeep trails... couple that with the increased use of coal electric plants since this country won't go nuclear and renewables won't cut it when it comes to the countries energy needs.
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Seems that Praack kind of missed the point. But as I said, "It's funny how time changes perspectives."
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:27 AM
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No worries brother, my mouth, my pie hole to include my hearing loss gets me in all sorts of tumbling turd piles in my world according to whom and what the human interactive moment might be.

I remain an always will be the most misunderstood person I know.

Possibly the term flatulence throws off some folks.

A windbag in the reverse order, that of having highly gasious campfire flare-ups in a grand moment of releasing laughter, Doritos Guacamole and a mouthfull of Grandma’s finest brew.

All at one time!

But yeah, I can see value to tech. I have come to highly value isolated noise or limited noise to my life. I realize how much of my past senses have dulled away, how it took this long for me to honestly sit in my own backyard only to see the small birds enjoy their simple carefree lives. Till the raven shows itself. I have sat watching, a whole other kind of surveillance, the raven conducting nest invasions. Like so many in my past these are different.

I have learned the Raven is an amazing murderous souless evil bird. Cunning to a very high degree. A professional criminal for sure.

It seems I cannot evade such birds.

Neither online, nor the populace sort.
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I got somin’ else to say...

My eyes ache... sometimes my heart does too.
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Have y'all seen the Bolinger B1? It's pretty much exactly what I want in an electric vehicle. Pricing hasn't been released yet, but it's definitely on my radar for the future.
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No—cannot say as I have. I will take a gander at it.
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I viewed the website.

Sadly, it falls to a small nitch of iconic one of a kind specialty rigs. While I do love it, I can already imagine a mortgage would have to be taken out as I’m guessing its cost to be over $150,000 maybe more with options.

For me, as merely a lowly humble retired public servant all I can do is look 👀, BUT!

Do not touch!

The other more important consideration is whom could a buyer get to work on it if an electrical malfunction occured. If money is no object, then flying in the sellers tech could be a viable alternative.

To include any parts needed.

In many parts of Africa such expertise is an everday norm.

I just read SmartFor Two is giving up on all its gasoline cars to North America. This will leave only all electric here in California. Depending on sources, I have read very conflicting numbers to continued sells by Mercedes Corporation.

Again, an electric Smart IS the only dealer supported vehicle requiring 20 amps to refuel it by means of a small 2000i gen set.

As to my being older prone to less rugged exploration, as I am mostly alone these days. I can appreciate the value it offers.

Its always fun to be a dreamer, its what makes America unique.
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I'm all in for a cheaper way to get from A to B then stop at C on the way to D - and now I'm lost.

Wouldn't electric cars/Jeeps eat up the cost savings in sheer length of the extension cords. I went to buy a 50 footer awhile back - I asked if they offered easy payment plans.

They said it's "cuz copper is spensive." I asked for a copper-free alternative and they called security.
Now my butt hurts.
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I'm all in for a cheaper way to get from A to B then stop at C on the way to D - and now I'm lost.

Wouldn't electric cars/Jeeps eat up the cost savings in sheer length of the extension cords. I went to buy a 50 footer awhile back - I asked if they offered easy payment plans.

They said it's "cuz copper is spensive." I asked for a copper-free alternative and they called security.
Now my butt hurts.
^^^
A lot of stuff is happening in that post.

The last JL review video they posted up showed a giant lithium battery between frame rails under the 2.0L hybrid. It had a giant skid plate around, I thought that was interesting. Someday the whole area between the rails will be battery.
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It's safe to assume that SOMEDAY, there will be an all electric Wrangler. All dependent on battery technology. Tesla, now claims vehicles with ranges approaching 400-600 miles. If they can combine that with 15-20min charging times, electric becomes much more convenient and user friendly than it is today.

An all electric Wrangler, with motors at each corner and a 400+ mile range actually sounds exciting!
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I'm all in for a cheaper way to get from A to B then stop at C on the way to D - and now I'm lost.

Wouldn't electric cars/Jeeps eat up the cost savings in sheer length of the extension cords. I went to buy a 50 footer awhile back - I asked if they offered easy payment plans.

They said it's "cuz copper is spensive." I asked for a copper-free alternative and they called security.
Now my butt hurts.
I am supposed to sweeping and mopping this moment.

Phuck-it.../

Do it tomorrow.

The greenies laud all electric as if its somekind of earth savior towards air quality.

Only, I did many days of research to learn for myself what kind of earthly minerals must be extracted not just to build a battery (tech), but all components to the electric motor, wiring, and metal[s] natural resources.

You mention COPPER. Greenies will not tell folks a mile and a half of copper goes into the making of just one fiat E-500 all electric. Can anybody think of what other daily uses copper fills our taken for granted daily needs? Our hobbies? Our very homes we live?

Copper is just one mineral folks. Copper is quickly turning into a precious mineral all because the rest of the entire world is racing to become the very same massive electrified modern age city scapes we here enjoy. Green people only focus on certain issues according to their authoritarian thoughts. In my self study, I have discovered honestly, it is not enough people biting the dust, too many breeders, mainly this speaks directly to mankinds lowest of the low non-productive versus the brainieacts whom have little time to harvest chasing catching one of the opposite sex, (for them) wasting valuable life force on emotional based supportive interaction. For other’s less than brillant.

Folks with the brains are putting off, or, outright not wishing to entangale themselves into emmotional attachments for all sorts of personal economic reasons.

I have no idea why I got into population, but, facts are facts. Too many grazers, not enough land, little rain, equals starvation.

Visit UNICIF Africa.

Mass starvation, disease, little to no clean water, baran land. But always plenty of time to breed and bleed.

Send your donations please. For just $5 a month you too can save just one lil wee-whop having no future other than carrying the starvation death breeding cycle to nothingdom.

All life is precious they say. But, too what degree can our planet sustain such ever growing population! Does it not make all life sustainability questionable. Our Government has been saying for 16 years we must do with less, so the less fortunite countries can have more! I have honestly never accepted that premise. Its pure bullshit. For ... anyone whose stupid enough to declare such a lie has NO IDEA how modern civilization thrives.

Or why?

Ideas, Creativity, Invention, Can-Do Spirit, REAL BRAINS, common cultural values, patriotism, boldness. “Never appologise to the world our fortunes!?!”

Just be ready to defend them.

Thing is, all the worlds big power empires are in a ghost war over precious minerals. Pure and simple.

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Old 12-20-2017, 06:23 PM
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It's safe to assume that SOMEDAY, there will be an all electric Wrangler. All dependent on battery technology. Tesla, now claims vehicles with ranges approaching 400-600 miles. If they can combine that with 15-20min charging times, electric becomes much more convenient and user friendly than it is today.

An all electric Wrangler, with motors at each corner and a 400+ mile range actually sounds exciting!
I totally agree.

There are companies this minute using sea water in place of lithium. Meaning sea water in battery cells. Again, it is the science of mineral contents (too seawater) that make electrical power abundant. I believe from what I have learned it could very well be an exciting breakthrough. Another company claimed they have come up with a home battery pallet sized pack system that could be put together according to home power usage.

Strange ... they stated they ran out of $$$ an bam! Out of business! It seems, anytime an inventor comes up with free and abundant, suddenly ah guy learns homicidal demise was their untimely due.

Again, tp reiterate topic point, small WW2 Ventage jeep, same battery bank as SmartFour Two. 20 AMP recharge capability. Able to be plugged into any 110 plug overnight, OR!

Recharged by means of a Honda generator.

Backyard build anyone?
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I'm all in for a cheaper way to get from A to B then stop at C on the way to D - and now I'm lost.

Wouldn't electric cars/Jeeps eat up the cost savings in sheer length of the extension cords. I went to buy a 50 footer awhile back - I asked if they offered easy payment plans.

They said it's "cuz copper is spensive." I asked for a copper-free alternative and they called security.
Now my butt hurts.

Hand Irons are stainless steel I believe. You remind me of an old smart-ass L-Tee I worked for years ago... While out on patrol, I’d make him take us [ME] through the drive through StarBucks because I liked green tea. He hated StarBucks. Everytime I’d order my drink over the smily speaky box he’d suddenly interrupt an ask the poor college gal if that total cost included my carbon credit fees...

She was speechless! 1990 I believe it was... NOW!

It has come to full fruition!

Which famous song could fit my flatulence emissions producing non equiped catylic coverterized butt pipe?

Cows... Yes cows are now under my states investigative emissions carbon fight now... I’m most sure the beef industry might be thinking relocation.
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We should camp in proximity some time. I like how you think. It's funny how time changes perspectives.

I hail from Colofornia, but I have been to Kalifornia many times. A few things always seem to cross my mind when I am there. First, the natural beauty... WOW! That is generally followed by amazement at the shear numbers of people and a serious urge to vacate the premises. It truly is a paradise lost, but I understand that home is home.

That said, I agree that an electric Jeep would be the perfect toad for us old timers to explore the neighborhood when the notion strikes.
I live in Kern County. Historically speaking it was once known as “The home of the poorman’s country sound.”

It was an to a degree still is a mostly conservative Protestant thinking town. But, traditions change, new cultures come and take over. New governence because the one we once had don’t figure no-moh. I once honestly felt like this was my home. Nowadays, I find most younger folks despise my wisdom too life’s little lessons. Even in here. Even from my own kids.

I’ve come to realize like it was yesterday my Grandfather’s presence he portrayed in simular pie-hole movement altercations.

Seasons change, but do I?

I no longer feel this county, even the back-country have anything welcoming to me anymore. Not even my church of yesteryear. For they too have slid away from the word, so as to abide by the new progressive thought.

If its what the people want, then be off with yohselves then!

“Give it all away!”

“Dohn’ mean nothin”

I’ll be dead.
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Hand Irons are stainless steel I believe. You remind me of an old smart-ass L-Tee I worked for years ago... While out on patrol, I’d make him take us [ME] through the drive through StarBucks because I liked green tea. He hated StarBucks. Everytime I’d order my drink over the smily speaky box he’d suddenly interrupt an ask the poor college gal if that total cost included my carbon credit fees...

She was speechless! 1990 I believe it was... NOW!

It has come to full fruition!

Which famous song could fit my flatulence emissions producing non equiped catylic coverterized butt pipe?

Cows... Yes cows are now under my states investigative emissions carbon fight now... I’m most sure the beef industry might be thinking relocation.
Hmmm smart ass LT..... I'm thinkin' you remind me of a demented old Uncle I once had liked the smell of his own farts, We used to take him to Taco Bell
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Snarky old bastard. Offer me lunch, Yaco Bell... Anything of your choice on this side of the menu...

The $1.79 side.

I was raised by rough men an manipulative con artist womenfolk.
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I thought the joy of owning a Wrangler was the constant stops at the gas station.
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copy that! As I fill my tank yet again.

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