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Old 06-04-2018, 07:27 PM
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Question Improvements in JLU vs JKU Quality (not features)

I have a 2016 JKU Sport with 39,000 miles on it. I am incredibly torn as it has been a horrible vehicle from a quality standpoint (New TPM Unit at 9K, New Transmission at 35K that i waited 3 weeks for, leak in rear storage area, broken components in the hard top and broken plastic parts everywhere). I want to take it in a field on the 4th and use it as my finale to my fireworks show. That said, it is the most shear joy I have ever had from a car I have owned and the memories of driving in the mountains with my sons is priceless. I can't believe I am saying that I will never live without the doors off in the Summer so can someone tell me if selling my 2016 at a loss and buying a JLU improves my future quality forecast and how? I can afford the transaction but I can't continue to put up with the poor quality.

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Our 2014 has been a very reliable vehicle, but jeeps have never been known for fit and finish. To tell you the truth, I wish they would get rid of all the plastic and go back to a CJ metal dash. Back on point, all makes are going to have their bad apples. Sometimes it's just bad luck. We put up with the "quirks" jeeps have because they are so much fun.
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The JL is still built by the same FCA.

While anyone can get a good one or get a bad one, FCA as a whole is usually at the bottom in reliability ratings.

Judging by their quality ratings on all their other vehicles, I wouldn't be expecting the JL to be raising any standards.
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The JL is still built by the same FCA.

While anyone can get a good one or get a bad one, FCA as a whole is usually at the bottom in reliability ratings.

Judging by their quality ratings on all their other vehicles, I wouldn't be expecting the JL to be raising any standards.


So far I have to agree with this. A lot have said that the interior is too nice to get dirty. Maybe in the leather clad JLs but not a sport S. I am very happy with the JL, and I donít have high expectations with fit and finish. I just expect it to be durable and last.
Some things I do notice:
The door plastic panels are the same if not more plasticky than the JK. Which I also thought the JK 2012 interior was nice and an upgrade.
I am not afraid to get the interior dirty. Itís no different to me than the Plastic/vinyl JK interior.. it works for me. Easy to clean. The JL is a little more rubberized in spots like switches and and cup holders and cubbyís.
I go over a bump and sometimes my stereo turns off and resets. Gotta be a loose connection.. dealer found nothing, but this was before the big bump so Iíll keep an eye on it. In 3 months Iíve only had to reset the clock 4x. Iíd hate to take it back and have them f it up worse. I can inspect if if I decide to add my small sub from my jk.
The rear window tab on my soft top keeps popping off.. damn those bumps. The rear window is stitched and sewn in crooked, too. Maybe itís the culprit for the window tab popping off. But.. it doesnít leak, only in bad blowing snow does a little bit get in. Very little. Iíd hate for them to screw that up worse.
The rear window tab that pops in and holds the rear window in has lost its pop. The other one has still got it. But.. the window hasnít flown out yet. That Velcro really works.
Iíll just say so far I love this JL but itís a little quirky and I kind of like it. It isnít perfect she has it where it counts. I think Han Solo said something like that.
Oh one more. The rear seats when you fold them down. Press your palm down on them, and youíll feel like youíre playing a game of Trouble.
Also I swear to God I am not pressing the AC button.. but somehow I find itís lit.


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Like others have said, FCA models tend to sit at the bottom of the quality charts. Wranglers in particular are not known for their fit and finish.

Having said that, I have owned seven JKs and, with the exception of one, they have all been extremely reliable and well-built. My last two JKs in particular, my 2014 and my current 2015 JKU, have been amazingly trouble-free. To me it seems to be more that quality is “inconsistent” rather than “poor”.

I have been purchasing Chrysler products for 30 years. And I have to say while the overall fit-and-finish has improved significantly under FCA, in general your chances of having electronic glitches, developing early suspension and steering wear, and getting annoying rattles and squeaks seem to all have gone up as well.

I doubt FCA has done a thorough job testing JL, as early reports seem to suggest. Personally, I wouldn’t touch one until 2020 model year comes out in another 18 months, to give new owners sufficient time to uncover the issues, and engineers to develop and implement the remedies.
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In my family, 2-2015s and one 2017. All have been excellent overall. Both 15s got new radiators under warranty and there has been one recall on the 17 for the brake switch.
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JK Wranglers are likely the MOST reliable FCA product simply due to their relative simplicity compared to other models.

I mean, there's not that much to go wrong on one outside the drivetrain, and from 2012 up they used a Mercedes trans instead of a Chrysler trans which solves one of Chrysler's biggest issues (poor transmissions).

The JL brings all the electrical doodads from the rest of FCA into the Wrangler lineup so I'm a bit apprehensive for the first model year.

Hopefully they've gotten their act together.

Don't get me wrong, I love driving my Jeep.

I wanted a 2 door Wrangler-type vehicle which left me with a choice of Wrangler or Wrangler.

But I knew full well what I was buying and that it was not going to be like my wife's Toyota.

If Ford built a Wrangler I would've bought it from them, which is why I'm very interested to see the new Bronco.
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Since I recall the Ford Taurus transaxle, and the 6.0 and 6.4 diesels, I am not standing in line waiting for their Bronco re-make.
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I just bought a JL and pretty happy with fit and finish so far . little concerned with repair costs down the road on the body. I think people are gonna be mad when they find out what it cots to fix
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Bought the MaxCare Lifetime Warranty when I got my 2015 JK-WW. Only extended warranty I've ever bought for any product ever! Nuff said?

If you are committed to keep your jeep for the very long term, consider it. Otherwise, take your chances with the factory warranty and cross your fingers.

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