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Old 05-18-2016, 10:38 AM
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JL up close prototype

I found these on another forum via Facebook and didn't see it posted here. Might be the same prototype but up close and you can peek under it a little.

It still has all that camo but looks like the design changes won't be anything extreme. Not sure but maybe LED's under there?

There's more pics but here are some choice ones.











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Good find. They don't really show much that we don't already know, but it is good to see that they aren't using the Renegade taillights that some of the renderings have.

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I dont understand the 2 foot extended front bumper....? crash standards?

Hopefully that unbolts and reveals the normal under grill frame....and they didnt extend the frame that much?
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:43 PM
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Good find. They don't really show much that we don't already know, but it is good to see that they aren't using the Renegade taillights that some of the renderings have.
Yea hopefully that stays true until production. If they are listening and reading feedback it'll stay off.
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Looks a bit like the Euro/Export bumper we get over here?
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I think these were the photos:

https://blog.extremeterrain.com/2016...tails-exposed/

So, I find photo 16, from the link, the most interesting. It looks that the separate plastic door surround is gone. I assume the sport bar is too. I could see the top then integrating with the surround via plastic panels or cloth top operating in an integrated channel. I personally can't see separate cloth panels in the design as has been speculated at allpar. I view this to work more like a Suzuki Samurai, which should make the convertible top more quiet as I won't hear the door surrounds clanking, which is good and in theory give the interior more space, while meeting crash standards.

On the flipside, it makes me really happy I bought a JK. I really like the look of the sport bar and adding more support around the windshield is trivial on the JK. While the integrated door surrounds is a pretty good idea, when I remove my doors the plastic surround has generally stayed bolted to the Jeep. It is also a source of leaking where it meets the windshield header. Even after, getting the seal kit.

Seeing how Jeep is reading this form, how about bolting a skid plate to assist with keep the air movement streamlined under the Jeep with the dual purpose of protecting it? I bolted a M.O.R.E skid plate over the engine and tranny and got about 1 mpg improvement. Right now, I average 20 MPG with a 3.6, manual, 2.5" and 34s. Too bad the payback on the efficiency is 80,000 miles per my math. The flip-side is that CAFE standards don't change so the additional cost might be worth it at scale.

My last opinion, I would love to see the new models referred to as JL-7 and JL-8 as a nod to the CJ or even something that starts with C for the Wrangler like CL. Personally, I always thought the JK was 'just kidding' and the JL is 'just looking' which is better than 'just lame'.
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Well, more fun on the Internet yielded this: https://blog.extremeterrain.com/2016...cluding-glass/

For as much happy spin is on the article. It makes me sad that the options are going to be more Grand Cherokee than CJ/Wrangler.

I bought mine with the hard top because I knew I could make it a soft-top for minimal cost, which I did. These seems like the 'options' are rigid definitions that put us in the either you get the soft-top, the steel top, or the panoramic top. I think the last option will likely not be removable.

I suspect Bestop will carve out/invent a soft top for removable hard top buyers, thus getting Jeep out of supporting those configurations and the associated issues (leaks, wear, buyers not liking manual process of lowering it). It also creates new price points, that can be higher with the complexity of future tops that don't exist in the current two top dichotomy.
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Based on the red shocks it looks like they are making a switch to GY Duratracs on the Rubicon. Biggest change I see minus the super long bumper.
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Well, more fun on the Internet yielded this: https://blog.extremeterrain.com/2016...cluding-glass/

For as much happy spin is on the article. It makes me sad that the options are going to be more Grand Cherokee than CJ/Wrangler.

I bought mine with the hard top because I knew I could make it a soft-top for minimal cost, which I did. These seems like the 'options' are rigid definitions that put us in the either you get the soft-top, the steel top, or the panoramic top. I think the last option will likely not be removable.

I suspect Bestop will carve out/invent a soft top for removable hard top buyers, thus getting Jeep out of supporting those configurations and the associated issues (leaks, wear, buyers not liking manual process of lowering it). It also creates new price points, that can be higher with the complexity of future tops that don't exist in the current two top dichotomy.

Don't know where that picture came from, but if this is what the JLU looks like (or very similar), I freaking love it. And this design looks plausible - the b and c pillars are painted black above the door and are part of the chassis for the updated 'sport bar' design.
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so...so...

Imagine...just for a second....That the windshield is fixed. (boo but stay with me) and that means it no longer NEEDS a sport bar. And...instead of a sport bar they just build whatever "top" and "doors" to help pass the rollover or crash test.

So when you take your 2 door and go top/doorless......theres no roll cage/sport bar just flat out open air!

That would be amazing.
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Wait, those aren't 35s!!!
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I dont understand the 2 foot extended front bumper....? crash standards?

Hopefully that unbolts and reveals the normal under grill frame....and they didnt extend the frame that much?
They often add bits under the wrap to obfuscate what the body actually looks like.

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