Originally Posted by turnbull
I think you need to look closer. On the JK pic, you can see that bump is located closer to the passenger side, but on the JL pic, it is located closer to the driver's side. Also the JL oil pain is noticeably deeper (from top to bottom) than the JK. The shape is slightly different overall.
Like I said, it might still be the Pentastar, but that is NOT the same oil pan. If it is the Pentastar, then where is the crossover exhaust pipe?
I don't disagree that it is slightly different (likely due to the mating with the 8Hxx or it might be the new VVL+EGR variant with a deeper oil pan for more oil capacity/cooling) than the one currently in the setup. Heck even just the difference between the oilpan in the Wrangler vs the Cherokee and RAM is different, as it has a much smaller profile oil pan (likely to avoid being knocked off). But comparing it to the other options (3.0L EcoDiesel, 2.8L CRD, 2.4L tigershark, etc) the layout far better matches that of the Pentastar in my op-onion.
Actually I was saying in this particular photo, it looks like they were using the standard D30 in the JL mule. However, in the thread called "Think I saw the new JL...and pickup version today" in the General Discussion forum, you can clearly see a different front diff than the JK
You can also clearly see the crossover exhaust pipe in that photo which is absent from the photo you posted.
Yeah, but if you look at the differential, it actually looks like the Chrysler 9.25 bolt pattern as you clearly see the 3 bolts on this side of the halfway point, while ALL of the Danas are just 2 bolts from 6 to 9 o'clock. Also the bolt past the middle is at 6:30 while the dana bolts are all closer to 7:15 for orientation if you get what I mean.
That picture in the other thread may be back to front, or that mule may have a Chrysler 9.25 front & rear and be different mules with different engines.
As I mentioned in the other thread, that engine looks more like the EcoDiesel underside to me, while this one from TFL looks like the Pentastar underside. Although it could just be the grainy washed-out-ed-ness from the low-light shot.
I also mentioned I did see that bronze/copper-like exhaust arrangement on a previous spy pic, but can't remember where anymore, but just from that difference alone between exhausts, I have a feeling this may be two separate mules for two different setups, but they both seem to be mated to the 8-speed.
The TFL pics are definitely Chrysler 9.25 Rear and a Dana XX (looks like a 30) front in a Sahara type config, and if that under-carriage shot from the other thread is the front as it seems, then it may get the double treatment, ala Rubicon, which would make sense that it had the diesel.
Now that setup is going to be a bit heavier than two D44HDs but should still be fractionally lighter than two D60s. I would just prefer seeing that 9.25 with a D44 front, not what appears to be a D30, just because I have a feeling that's the Sahara option, and they don't feel the need for the locking front, but I'd rather have the strength of a D44 front even without a locker, just to compliment the 9.25 rear.