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Old 07-11-2019, 05:01 PM
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So Missouri's Governor just passed a new law...WTH...

Missouri has passed a new law that takes effect at the end of August. This law will eliminate vehicle inspections on vehicles that are less than 10 years old unless the vehicle has over 150,000 miles. Not sure how I feel about this. The money from inspection stickers that is taken in goes to the Missouri State Highway Patrol programs and roadway funding; as if our roads aren't bad enough, let's just cut the funding for them some more! Now don't get me wrong here, I don't thoroughly enjoy a state trooper's lights behind me but I have complete respect for those individuals and that institution. To see their funding shrink is a bit sickening. I don't see how this is a good idea at any level. I have seen shops pass complete junk and not even take a look at the vehicle and some of the "things" (at best!) I see out on the roads makes me wonder how the hell it isn't falling to pieces as it goes down the road! What the Hell!!?? Sorry for the rant guys, I just had to vent. I know some people on here have had issues getting their jeep to pass in other states for what seems like ridiculous things but to watch good ol' Missouri say "10 years old or at least 150,000 miles before we worry about whether it's safe to drive " just floors me.

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So Missouri's Governor just passed a new law...WTH...

How much money actually goes into worthwhile programs vs. the cost of administration, salaries, benefits, state employee pensions for the inspections. Just wondering if a lot of this government stuff isnít just funny accounting.

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I for one don't need the government looking over my shoulder all the time.
Thank God the idiots out here keep that crap on the coast.
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:21 PM
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How much money actually goes into worthwhile programs vs. the cost of administration, salaries, benefits, state employee pensions for the inspections. Just wondering if a lot of this government stuff isnít just funny accounting.
I would agree that some government stuff =funny accounting. As it has been laid out for the Missouri resident from what has been published by the St.Louis dispatch, it reads like they don't see it worthwhile anymore. Apparently it was initially going to be eliminated all together but the new regulations is what was agreed upon.

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It's just a tax that was repealed. If you want to tax something, call it a damn tax and vote on it. Don't invent some BS government regulation that exists outside of citizen's control. Government regulations exist uncontrolled. They could double the inspection fees at any time and there would be nothing anyone could do about it.

Funding highways and the Highway Patrol are legitimate good causes. They can, and should, reallocate funding currently going to other politician's pet projects and give it to the Highway Patrol... or vote for a new tax earmarked for the HP.

In any case, I doubt the inspections made the cars on the highway any safer.
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Cars are a lot safer and pollute far less than when inspection laws were implemented. While there will always be exceptions, why have an inspection program if the vast majority of cars don't have issues? (or they find some BS issue) Most cars 10 years or newer don't need tuneups, have pretty much original equipment except for tires, brakes, and oil. Cars built in the 60s that hit 100,000 miles were generally considered to be on their last leg.
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Inspection?

Don't have to fool with that in Indiana thank goodness. And no, we don't have a plethora of rolling time bombs on the road. Are there some? Yes, for sure but they are well in the minority.

We do have plenty of other ways we're taxed though.
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They got rid of inspections in Connecticut a few years back. Just the emissions test every 2 years now.

The danger here isn't the vehicles, it's the clueless drivers.
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No vehicle inspection in A.Z. Emissions in some counties. My Wrangler is registered in a county, that does not require emissions. None of that ethanol crap in our gasoline. This is also a county mandate.

We do have safety inspection stations for commercial vehicles.
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They got rid of inspections in Connecticut a few years back. Just the emissions test every 2 years now.

The danger here isn't the vehicles, it's the clueless drivers.
Clueless drivers with a cellphone!

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You could always take the monies you're saving now and donate it....to the police....
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You could always take the monies you're saving now and donate it....to the police....
HAHA! Not the local PD!

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Missouri has passed a new law that takes effect at the end of August. This law will eliminate vehicle inspections on vehicles that are less than 10 years old unless the vehicle has over 150,000 miles. Not sure how I feel about this. The money from inspection stickers that is taken in goes to the Missouri State Highway Patrol programs and roadway funding; as if our roads aren't bad enough, let's just cut the funding for them some more! Now don't get me wrong here, I don't thoroughly enjoy a state trooper's lights behind me but I have complete respect for those individuals and that institution. To see their funding shrink is a bit sickening. I don't see how this is a good idea at any level. I have seen shops pass complete junk and not even take a look at the vehicle and some of the "things" (at best!) I see out on the roads makes me wonder how the hell it isn't falling to pieces as it goes down the road! What the Hell!!?? Sorry for the rant guys, I just had to vent. I know some people on here have had issues getting their jeep to pass in other states for what seems like ridiculous things but to watch good ol' Missouri say "10 years old or at least 150,000 miles before we worry about whether it's safe to drive " just floors me.

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We haven’t had vehicle inspections here in Arkansas for quite awhile. I’m not sure how I feel about that either.

However, after reading some of these other threads about how intrusive and picayune some other states are and I’m thinking i might just be better off here.
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The state of Indiana had inspections 40 years ago for a short time and after a few years it was discovered admin and other costs were many times higher than what could be taken in and it also had no effect whatsoever on the quality of vehicles being driven. Same thing was discovered with emissions testing. The whole thing is nothing more than a Black Tax no matter where you live.
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if cops need more cashflow they should stop sitting in plain view eating donuts and actually do some traffic enforcement.
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No vehicle inspection in A.Z. Emissions in some counties. My Wrangler is registered in a county, that does not require emissions. None of that ethanol crap in our gasoline. This is also a county mandate.

We do have safety inspection stations for commercial vehicles.
And no emissions for motorcycles. Vehicles that are under 5 years old don't get emissions either.

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It doesn't hurt my feelings at all. They more than make up for it in property tax, don't you think?

Oh here's a good one. I leased a car for my wife in September last year in TX where we were living. Lease payment is $330 a month. Move to MO, and the lease payment goes up $27 per month. So $357 per month on a lease that I entered in another state. MO can do one as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, I changed my address for the lease back to TX so it hasn't gone up now. Be damned if I pay more tax on something that was a done deal 9 months ago.
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Personally, I'm glad to see them go. The inspection stations don't make any money on doing the emissions testing, just ask them. I just had to have it done last week on my 2017 Wrangler that has 19,xxx miles. Talk about ridiculous. Now I wish they would get rid of the mandate to have 10% ethanol in our gas in St. Louis county. If I want to get pure premium with no ethanol for my tuned turbo vehicle, I have to drive 45 miles to a rural area.

As far as the HP losing money, I doubt if an ordinary citizen could actually find out what the total percentage of the inspection fee actually ends up in the HP coffers. My guess is not very much.
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Every state should have a state inspection. There are a lot of stupid and lazy people that have to be told that their headlights have to work, you shouldn't have play in your ball joints, and your tires can't be bald.

In Virginia is only $20. The state is not making money on it but needs to done.

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PA now has the highest gas road tax, paid at the pumps, in the nation. We were "sold" this by emphasizing how dangerously decayed our bridges have become.


Now, they are telling us they need even more money to actually do any of the updates and repairs. For this, they proposing a miles-driven fee to be added to our yearly registration fees.


The real story is that there is a "secret" law that redirects all the additional gas road tax money we pay at the pumps, into the pockets of the State Police. That is why there isn't all that new cash available to actually fix the bridges and roads.


Bottom line, DON'T TRUST THEM.
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Every state should have a state inspection. There are a lot of stupid and lazy people that have to be told that their headlights have to work, you shouldn't have play in your ball joints, and your tires can't be bald.

In Virginia is only $20. The state is not making money on it but needs to done.

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Most states do just fine without inspections. So just keep that attitude in your nanny state.
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Wish NY would do away with it, or make it every few years instead of every year. We are taxed on everything and frankly, would jump for joy if they took something away. That is unheard of. They like to get you use to it, new tax or higher prices, so it becomes the normal. Like our thruway tolls. that was supposed to be a temp thing but here we are, way past the exp date and still have to pay a toll to drive on the thruway. Now they are upgrading it to remove toll booth and just have the fast easy pass/camera system
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I don't get about these guys that whine about the police. The cops just can't win. If they're writing tickets, they should be 'catching real criminals'. I used to be a cop and did my best to help people that needed it, and prosecute those that needed it.
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Every state should have a state inspection. There are a lot of stupid and lazy people that have to be told that their headlights have to work, you shouldn't have play in your ball joints, and your tires can't be bald.

In Virginia is only $20. The state is not making money on it but needs to done.

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A basic safety inspection wouldn't be a bad thing (making sure the lights and brakes work) and would be in the public's interest (after all, that's the government's purpose)

Problem is we have some states like CT that do no inspections at all, and some like VT where they fail you if your tires stick out 1/2" from your fenders or your lights don't have "SAE DOT" written on them.

That makes no sense to me and makes my life interesting as I live 50/50 between those two states.
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I don't get about these guys that whine about the police. The cops just can't win. If they're writing tickets, they should be 'catching real criminals'. I used to be a cop and did my best to help people that needed it, and prosecute those that needed it.
We have a very unique situation here my friend. The Ferguson Effect has done more harm to our region than anyone (well I think some at the highest levels of our government knew exactly what would happen) could have imagined.
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We have a very unique situation here my friend. The Ferguson Effect has done more harm to our region than anyone (well I think some at the highest levels of our government knew exactly what would happen) could have imagined.
Totally agree. I try to stay out of politics. And I try to shake the hand of any cop I see, and thank them. They have a tough job these days; it was a great job in the 90s.

What part of St. Louis? I'm in Wildwood, except when I need a quote for work on my house, then I'm in Pacific haha.
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Totally agree. I try to stay out of politics. And I try to shake the hand of any cop I see, and thank them. They have a tough job these days; it was a great job in the 90s.

What part of St. Louis? I'm in Wildwood, except when I need a quote for work on my house, then I'm in Pacific haha.
Crazy, I work in Pacific and live in Oakville.
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A basic safety inspection wouldn't be a bad thing (making sure the lights and brakes work) and would be in the public's interest (after all, that's the government's purpose)

Problem is we have some states like CT that do no inspections at all, and some like VT where they fail you if your tires stick out 1/2" from your fenders or your lights don't have "SAE DOT" written on them.

That makes no sense to me and makes my life interesting as I live 50/50 between those two states.
Agreed, I have no issues whatsoever with safety inspections as we have some real hillbillies here in Mizzeruh that can pose a danger to others on the road due to their unique vehicle "repair" skills.

It's the emissions test on a 2 year old vehicle that amounts to nothing more than a money grab by the state. That pisses me off and makes no sense whatsoever in the 21st century. On top of it, if you have an older, oil burning vehicle, the state will alloy you to pay for a "low emissions tuneup" and if your vehicle still doesn't pass they give you a waiver. What a joke.
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