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Old 08-04-2019, 06:49 PM   #361
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Bueller?

Anyone?
These would just flood your jeep. They are not at all the same type of seal as factory.
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My uppers don’t fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
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My doors are hard to open and close and the fronts will fly open while the Jeep is moving. Any ideas?
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My uppers don’t fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
You can measure between the holes, and measure the pins.
If they are far out of wack, you can use a heat gun(carefully), to heat up the posts, slip a snug fitting piece of pipe over the pins, and bend them slightly, and/or, you can start with some coarse sand paper and sand the posts, as well as the center locating pin till you get the fit you want.
Unfortunately, I had to work on the passenger side upper to get hem to fit properly on my OEM half doors. I think the right front uppers are molded slightly wrong.
I wound up removing quite a bit of the outside of the center pin to get the fit close.
Still working on the end posts little by little.
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It's a pain in the ass, but you'll like 'em when you get 'em right.

As far as the door opening, sounds like you'll need to adjust the hinges and strikers.
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You can measure between the holes, and measure the pins.
If they are far out of wack, you can use a heat gun(carefully), to heat up the posts, slip a snug fitting piece of pipe over the pins, and bend them slightly, and/or, you can start with some coarse sand paper and sand the posts, as well as the center locating pin till you get the fit you want.
Unfortunately, I had to work on the passenger side upper to get hem to fit properly on my OEM half doors. I think the right front uppers are molded slightly wrong.
I wound up removing quite a bit of the outside of the center pin to get the fit close.
Still working on the end posts little by little.
Good luck.
It's a pain in the ass, but you'll like 'em when you get 'em right.

As far as the door opening, sounds like you'll need to adjust the hinges and strikers.
Thanks. I would be nice if Bestop would make some videos of the work that needs to be done once we get these... like the one they did for painting them.
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My uppers donít fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
I had a hard time with the front windows at first too and thought that the center hole did not line up with the peg, mine are mopar windows (same, just branded differently and black diamond). But with Bestop's help, I discovered that the fronts do not just drop straight into place like the back windows do. You have to insert the front peg first, all the way back in the hole, then with the window tipped forward, insert the back peg in the back of its hole. Then slowly lower the window, adjusting the angle so that the center peg aligns with its hole. It took some practice to master, but now I can do it very quickly. Sometimes, I have to give the passenger side window a little tap from the outside to pop the center peg in.
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My uppers don’t fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
I had a hard time with the front windows at first too and thought that the center hole did not line up with the peg, mine are mopar windows (same, just branded differently and black diamond). But with Bestop's help, I discovered that the fronts do not just drop straight into place like the back windows do. You have to insert the front peg first, all the way back in the hole, then with the window tipped forward, insert the back peg in the back of its hole. Then slowly lower the window, adjusting the angle so that the center peg aligns with its hole. It took some practice to master, but now I can do it very quickly. Sometimes, I have to give the passenger side window a little tap from the outside to pop the center peg in.
Hmm. This sounds promising. I’ll try it and report back.
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I had a hard time with the front windows at first too and thought that the center hole did not line up with the peg, mine are mopar windows (same, just branded differently and black diamond). But with Bestop's help, I discovered that the fronts do not just drop straight into place like the back windows do. You have to insert the front peg first, all the way back in the hole, then with the window tipped forward, insert the back peg in the back of its hole. Then slowly lower the window, adjusting the angle so that the center peg aligns with its hole. It took some practice to master, but now I can do it very quickly. Sometimes, I have to give the passenger side window a little tap from the outside to pop the center peg in.
I tried this and I still can't seem to get the center peg to go into the hole. I don't know why because it seems to be lined up sometimes.
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My uppers don’t fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
I had a hard time with the front windows at first too and thought that the center hole did not line up with the peg, mine are mopar windows (same, just branded differently and black diamond). But with Bestop's help, I discovered that the fronts do not just drop straight into place like the back windows do. You have to insert the front peg first, all the way back in the hole, then with the window tipped forward, insert the back peg in the back of its hole. Then slowly lower the window, adjusting the angle so that the center peg aligns with its hole. It took some practice to master, but now I can do it very quickly. Sometimes, I have to give the passenger side window a little tap from the outside to pop the center peg in.
Eureka! On the third time I got it. I was the tap from the outside that was missing. Thank you so much.
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Door adjustment... is there a resource for how to adjust the doors if they don’t fit great?
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Any instructions on how to adjust the hinges and strikers?
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My uppers don’t fit. Any ideas? The 3 insertion holes seem to be spaced wrong.
You can measure between the holes, and measure the pins.
If they are far out of wack, you can use a heat gun(carefully), to heat up the posts, slip a snug fitting piece of pipe over the pins, and bend them slightly, and/or, you can start with some coarse sand paper and sand the posts, as well as the center locating pin till you get the fit you want.
Unfortunately, I had to work on the passenger side upper to get hem to fit properly on my OEM half doors. I think the right front uppers are molded slightly wrong.
I wound up removing quite a bit of the outside of the center pin to get the fit close.
Still working on the end posts little by little.
Good luck.
It's a pain in the ass, but you'll like 'em when you get 'em right.

As far as the door opening, sounds like you'll need to adjust the hinges and strikers.
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I suggest contacting Bestop customer service. They walked me through the adjustments for my front driver door. I'm afraid I would forget a step if I tried to remember, but in short, they had me switch the top and bottom hinges and adjust the latch.
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I suggest contacting Bestop customer service. They walked me through the adjustments for my front driver door. I'm afraid I would forget a step if I tried to remember, but in short, they had me switch the top and bottom hinges and adjust the latch.
I don't understand why they don't publish these resources. I emailed them and 2 weeks later, they responded with, "Uh, they don't really fit like factory. That's normal." I followed up with "The door flies open when I make turns, I have to put a towel in between the upper and the door to seal it at the top, and the fit is so bad on the door that the paint comes off the Jeep. None of the other doors on the car are like this.". He then sends me the one install video they made. I then ask to speak to management. Crickets. This is what you can expect folks. I have been asking them directly for 6 weeks. I'm pissed now.
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I don't understand why they don't publish these resources. I emailed them and 2 weeks later, they responded with, "Uh, they don't really fit like factory. That's normal." I followed up with "The door flies open when I make turns, I have to put a towel in between the upper and the door to seal it at the top, and the fit is so bad on the door that the paint comes off the Jeep. None of the other doors on the car are like this.". He then sends me the one install video they made. I then ask to speak to management. Crickets. This is what you can expect folks. I have been asking them directly for 6 weeks. I'm pissed now.

I can't say that I'm happy with my experience, either. I'm using their twill uppers with factory half doors. All but the passenger front fit perfectly - the two outside posts are too far apart to allow the upper to sink down into the door completely. Bestop customer service told me that the uppers were made from Mopar molds, and that the fit was was normal. Their solution is that I should smack the upper into place with a mallet, which is exactly what I want to do to a $275 piece of plastic.

Ultimately I ended up sanding the rearmost post down a significant amount. The upper now fits like it should.

After reading this thread I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
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I can't say that I'm happy with my experience, either. I'm using their twill uppers with factory half doors. All but the passenger front fit perfectly - the two outside posts are too far apart to allow the upper to sink down into the door completely. Bestop customer service told me that the uppers were made from Mopar molds, and that the fit was was normal. Their solution is that I should smack the upper into place with a mallet, which is exactly what I want to do to a $275 piece of plastic.

Ultimately I ended up sanding the rearmost post down a significant amount. The upper now fits like it should.

After reading this thread I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
So if I read this correctly, it sounds as though Bestop needs to move the post holes a little bit.
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I honestly can't believe this tread is still going strong
Anyone hear anything about a rev2 yet? @cassie ? is she still here or did she go packing?

And again I do love Bestop and all of their OLDER products are awesome
Any of there NEW stuff just totally sucks, sry I know the truth hurts sometimes
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This is bullshit. I could list MORE problems I've had with mine as they age, ( Paint looks like crap, still leak - perhaps more, the seals come off the uppers because you have to slam them, etc.) but suffice it to say, Rev 1. Is worthless.

I will say this; Bestop gave me a 100% refund AND let me keep the doors. They should do the same with everyone here who can demonstrate these issues. It's unacceptable to keep selling a product they know is defective.
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I can't say that I'm happy with my experience, either. I'm using their twill uppers with factory half doors. All but the passenger front fit perfectly - the two outside posts are too far apart to allow the upper to sink down into the door completely. Bestop customer service told me that the uppers were made from Mopar molds, and that the fit was was normal. Their solution is that I should smack the upper into place with a mallet, which is exactly what I want to do to a $275 piece of plastic.

Ultimately I ended up sanding the rearmost post down a significant amount. The upper now fits like it should.

After reading this thread I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
What's concerning is not that they put out a bad product. That happens to any company. The problem for them is their response. They are not acknowledging problems and are stonewalling/ignoring good long time customers asking not for a refund, but for help in adapting to the problem. This is a great way to destroy a brand.

I run a business and rule number one with an unhappy customer is DO NOT IGNORE THEM. Spend a little to correct the problem.
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I can't say that I'm happy with my experience, either. I'm using their twill uppers with factory half doors. All but the passenger front fit perfectly - the two outside posts are too far apart to allow the upper to sink down into the door completely. Bestop customer service told me that the uppers were made from Mopar molds, and that the fit was was normal. Their solution is that I should smack the upper into place with a mallet, which is exactly what I want to do to a $275 piece of plastic.

Ultimately I ended up sanding the rearmost post down a significant amount. The upper now fits like it should.

After reading this thread I see that I'm not the only one with this problem.
The uppers don't fit worth a shit.
I'm on factory half doors, and the drivers side upper fits ok, but I had to sand the hell out of the passenger side to get it to fit.
And as far as their bullshit answer about the fit of the center pin, well, my drivers side pin is in the F'ing drink holder already!!!! That's right, snapped right off, WTF!!!
These uppers are trash. No quality control.
Very surprised Mopar puts their name on 'em.
I love my half doors, but the fit of these uppers suck.
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I learned not to rush buying novelty stuff, regardless of how good it looks in marketing pictures, from threads like this one.
This is not directed at any one, just me thinking out loud.
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I learned not to rush buying novelty stuff, regardless of how good it looks in marketing pictures, from threads like this one.
This is not directed at any one, just me thinking out loud.



There are so many jeep configurations out there, it might have benefited them to take people up on their offer to test these out. They could have even held on to credit card information in case the testers didn't return the doors.

I think they the missed an opportunity to iron out these bugs before they went to market. Unfortunately, it looks like the early adopters have become the actual testers.
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With or without testers it's not that simple... Once you manufacture the part it is ultra expensive to do any significant changes to the design. They don't mold them in house you know...
I just got too tired of dealing with the many issues so I gave up, understanding that by trying to fix it I'm wasting a lot of time and effort on top of the $3000 I paid. I've been told by Bestop that I'm one of only 4 out of hundreds having fitting issues and that my Jeep must be the problem.... So how come my factory doors fit 100% ??? 😆
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I've been told by Bestop that I'm one of only 4 out of hundreds having fitting issues and that my Jeep must be the problem.... So how come my factory doors fit 100% ??? 😆
Probably won't get an answer to that question.

There are a lot of people that probably won't say anything because of the, "it's a jeep" attitude of owners and vendors. Jeeps aren't perfect but that doesn't let the vendors off the hook. They want premium prices so they need to provide premium products and service to justify those prices. Now if these where $500 doors then that would be different but they want OEM prices? They better deliver OEM fit and quality and these doors are FAR from that.

I'd love a set of these doors if they did what bestop claims but they don't even come close. Maybe some other company will take this idea and deliver what bestop can't.
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I've been told by Bestop that I'm one of only 4 out of hundreds having fitting issues and that my Jeep must be the problem.... So how come my factory doors fit 100% ??? 😆
I highly doubt they sold hundreds of these. That's how you usually detect a BS company...
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I highly doubt they sold hundreds of these. That's how you usually detect a BS company...
Maybe they’re counting all the doors they sent out for those glowing reviews you see on YouTube.
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