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Thank you for sharing these pictures! Are you on Instagram? Id like to share these pictures!

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Been testing the core doors extensively lately and the more I use them the more I like them.
I read some of the posts about the "issues" but I find them to be minor at best.
For those with fitting issues... The fit is 100% once you remove the thick aftermarket step protectors if you have any and adjust the hinges/locks as you should be doing on any new door. I spoke with Tom from Bestop (product designer) and went through all the fitting and adjustments over the phone and The doors fit very well.

Now back to real life... the doors are super fun and I love love love them. They can take a beating too being made out of thick aluminum. I can't remember enjoying a new product as much as I enjoy these and all my trail partners loved them.

The openings are very helpful seeing the near ground without poking my head out the window and the flat surface of the top of the door is very comfy.
They don't move or rattle and not having any problems when the body flexes over big obstacles.

Two thumbs up and I highly recommend them not for looks but rather for functionality and quality.









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They're not threaded

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so no ability to add a small theft deterrent. Do these have the same holes as the factory hinges? Maybe they can be swapped out so they can use the mcgard locks.

Since you couldn't open the doors from either the outside or inside on the bestop element doors once they were locked, you didn't need the pins threaded.

Are you able to unlock this door from the inside even if it's keyed to the lock position?
My strike force zebra doors can open from the inside even when the outside is locked. But the pins are threaded so that helps.

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Sigh. I preordered a set of twill uppers from quadratec back on 2/20/19.

Waited patiently, very patiently.

Got an email from UPS Thursday June 6th at 6:07pm saying I had a package from quadratec scheduled for Friday 6/7/19 delivery between 9am and 1pm.

Yay! here come my twill uppers!

I waited last friday from 9am to 1pm, then 1 to 6pm. No delivery. Hmmm what's up?


I followed the ups tracking number and it changed to Shipment Ready for UPS
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When the shipment arrives at our facility the delivery date will be updated.

wtf?

So I waited until Monday, no ups update and no delivery. I got in touch with quadratec and they said oh this happens, the UPS driver picks things up sometimes and forgets to scan them... (Huh? and still has a job?) and I should just wait a day or two and they would show up.

Well it's been a week in total now and no uppers and no change in the UPS tracking info. I call UPS and they say we never picked the package up, meanwhile quadratec is still saying it was picked up and not scanned.


I give up. I just contacted quadratec and they are giving my money back.

Sucks to wait almost 4 months for these uppers to be shipped out and then to not have my preorder able to be delivered to me.

Quadratec said if I did not cancel my order I would have to wait for bestop to send them another set of uppers.

I promptly cancelled my order.
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so no ability to add a small theft deterrent. Do these have the same holes as the factory hinges? Maybe they can be swapped out so they can use the mcgard locks.

Since you couldn't open the doors from either the outside or inside on the bestop element doors once they were locked, you didn't need the pins threaded.

Are you able to unlock this door from the inside even if it's keyed to the lock position?
My strike force zebra doors can open from the inside even when the outside is locked. But the pins are threaded so that helps.
Good news is they DO stay locked and cannot be opened from inside when locked.
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Sigh. I preordered a set of twill uppers from quadratec back on 2/20/19.

Waited patiently, very patiently.
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I promptly cancelled my order.
I had almost the exact same experience with another company selling half doors and a different vendor. Took more than a month to get it all straightened out, so I feel your pain.

I had hoped that this product launch would lead to a better experience. I'm anxiously following this thread.

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My date has been pushed back now three times with quadratec. It now says expected to ship 6/17 both lowers and uppers. Yet I see them advertising the lowers “buy now we ship today”. I called and they said we are waiting on the uppers before shipping yours.... that’s fine as long as they get the uppers in someday and they keep my lowers off to the side. I ordered mine mid March so looking forward to getting them on the Jeep while it’s summer.
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Good news is they DO stay locked and cannot be opened from inside when locked.



good to know. Thanks!
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Good news is they DO stay locked and cannot be opened from inside when locked.

This doesn’t sound safe in a wreck situation. Just saying.
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This doesn’t sound safe in a wreck situation. Just saying.
Really, and half doors are, tooooo funny
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This doesn’t sound safe in a wreck situation. Just saying.
Anytime you have passengers, those doors will be unlocked.
Locking them is more about theft protection when you park somewhere you think they might walk off.

That being said, I think they should have at least made one of the pins threaded for a security lock. And having switched to the strike force zebra doors, I find the locks more convenient than the element door.
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Really, and half doors are, tooooo funny


Just saying it is something else to consider having to unlock each door every time to go somewhere. Sure, half doors don’t provide the same protection as full doors. Wasn’t attempting to be funny.
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After a McGrew trail report (Southern Oregon) with the new doors. I love them. Took the inserts out. When rock crawling, dust running and a little Creek crossing. Having that opening in the door made it a lot easier to navigate through The trail. No doors would of been definitely better. But I wanted to sport my new mod.

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I wonder how the rears would look with my factory front half doors.
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So I remain unimpressed. These things leak all over the place. They leak at the top, on the inside, and even (and especially) at the "core" panel gasket. As I said when I first got them, why Bestop designed them with the gasket simply flush against a vertical surface with no channel to help support the weight I don't know. They also could have used at least one additional twist knob in the center. As it is now, even with these things so tight it hurts your fingers to twist them. they leak along the bottom edge of the panel.

The doors themselves leak not only along the top edge and down along the side, but also from the seam between the upper and lower. (Each door has it's own special way of leaking - (Good QC!).

The issue is the lowers are not OEM matched to the factory lowers. So the uppers have a lot of problems. I have found at least three "workarounds" Bestop did to try to fix their issues with cheesy post-manufacturing "fixes".

Then in a continuing and mounting list of lousy manufacturing, after only two weeks, half of the screws holding the hinges on are rusting (7/16).... TWO WEEKS!

Shortcuts in design (confirmed by Bestop); lack of field testing (confirmed by Bestop (who also rejected offers)); Hasty push to market; and cheap China materials and manufacturing make these a deep and expensive disappointment.





















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I want to know how the uppers are doing...
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So I remain unimpressed. These things leak all over the place.

Then in a continuing and mounting list of lousy manufacturing, after only two weeks, half of the screws holding the hinges on are rusting (7/16).... TWO WEEKS!

Shortcuts in design (confirmed by Bestop); lack of field testing (confirmed by Bestop (who also rejected offers)); Hasty push to market; and cheap China materials and manufacturing make these a deep and expensive disappointment.
This is a shame because they look so good and have fantastic features. I want a lightweight replacement for my factory doors that I can use during the warmer months that won't require removal of the drain plugs.
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OK, that's it. I'm NOT buying these doors

Thanks USMCmike for the detailrf review.

I guess there's a reason why Jeep never developed a 'trail door' type door. While they appear in EJS concepts and even the red 2 dr JL, they never end up being offered to the public. Props to Bestop for trying, but now we see the difficulties of managing water. Overall too many negatives.
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I want to know how the uppers are doing...
Mine are still awesome, I have no complaints.

Seriously considering offing my factory full doors and keeping the OEM halves year round.
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Thank you @USMCmike for your review. I cashed out on a small investment i have to purchase these doors.

I was planning to sell my oem and tube doors, but since your having fitment and leak issues, i will purchase some non jeep items.

Too bad since i was really looking forward to these as they look very promising.
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Also, @USMCmike ... are you planning to return them?
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Also, @USMCmike ... are you planning to return them?
In my discussions with Bestop, I got the impression my only option was to work with them to fix the issue(s) and then if we can't fix them, they would ship me a new door(s). [The problem is there are now too many issues to fix/or that are 'unfixable'.]

Returning them didn't seem to be on the table.

Beyond that, I don't have the packaging (it STUNK of China rubery stuff). So packaging them is an issue.

I have my carpet out, I'm used to much more leaking from the fabric Bestop doors. So all in all, I'm fine keeping them. I wouldn't be at all if I had carpet. Nor would I be if I wanted to use them year round.

Ironically I'm most peeved that I have to deal with replacing or re-painting all the screws, and need to do it ONE at a time so I don't dare mess up the alignment/fit any worse that it is.

Finally I am rather disappointed by Bestop's overall responses. There seems to be more of a desire to shut me up, rather than actually satisfy me and/or just plain ol' replace the parts and try again. They deleted my review from their website (Don't trust reviews on Bestop's site - they only post positive ones); they made excuses for why things are the way they are and simply ignored any issue about quality of manufacturing, parts, or materials.

As I said initially, if a person has the money to blow and doesn't want factory half doors, AND wants OEM uppers, this is your only option. Blow it. If you are sensitive to cost, and you're looking for OEM "Fit and Finish" as Bestop says - NO WAY. Not even a close second.

For those who want the twill uppers - it seems they are perfect OEM replacements for factory half doors with the non-premium material.

Succinctly:
My rating as a "Jeep Mod" notwithstanding cost: 6/10
My rating as a product at the price point: 3/10
My rating as a product as compared to Bestop videos and marketing: 0/10
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@USMCmike wow. That brings me to a time when the Sunrider for Hardtop came out. Some people had issues, others didn't. Those with the big issues, Bestop flew out some reps to help them fix their issue. That was great customer service.

The Sunrider is just a small fraction in price compared to the Core Doors and you have been a very vocal consumer speaking out your concerns. I really hope that they fix your issue by having someone come out to your area, get you a new set that works, or refund you.

I would be very upset too if i were in your shoes. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.
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Returning them didn't seem to be on the table.

Finally I am rather disappointed by Bestop's overall responses. There seems to be more of a desire to shut me up, rather than actually satisfy me and/or just plain ol' replace the parts and try again. They deleted my review from their website (Don't trust reviews on Bestop's site - they only post positive ones); they made excuses for why things are the way they are and simply ignored any issue about quality of manufacturing, parts, or materials.

0/10
WOW! I thought Bestop was better then that. I'll definitely keep this in mind when looking at buying their products in the future. What I have purchased of their products has been fine up to this point.

What really doesn't make sense on their part is allowing this to go on this long on a site like this. The poor fit, leaks, and obvious subpar materials (rusting screws this soon!) indicate that these are WAY overpriced and of cheap Chinese construction.
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For those still considering buying the Core Doors, I wanted to share my experience. These doors are awesome! I have a '16 JKU Sahara and have been considering all my options for half doors for a few years. When I saw the looks of the core doors and the fact that they were all metal, and the center panel was removable, I was sold. Ordered in February, received at the end of May and I couldn't be more thrilled. They look awesome, no rattles, and no leaks driving in rain. I paired them with Mopar half windows because my soft top is black diamond and I wanted a match and after some practice time installing the front windows, they seat perfectly. I love the inside of the door, they provide much more leg room than my full doors.

I did have some issues experienced by others, but consider them minor. My front doors do stick out a little at the bottom rear. This may be because I have plastic door sill guards, but it doesn't bother me a whole lot and don't want to try removing them. The driver upper, when first shut, does leave a bit of a gap in the upper back seal, but if I'm outside the Jeep, I just push it in and if I'm inside, I just grab the window plastic and pull it in. It seals and stays that way until I open the door again. Would it be great if I didn't have to do this, sure, but it's easy to correct. At first the back doors stuck a little when opening. This was caused by the plastic around the latch catching, but this has begun to ease up to the point of not noticing it anymore. With windows on, the doors were initially a little hard to close, but this has resolved itself with use and isn't an issue anymore.

Bestop has been great with customer service. I needed the mirror mounting cups and they sent them to me right away. Since I bought my Mopar windows elsewhere, I didn't have the grommets. Bestop offered to send me some when available, but I ended up finding some in stock at Morris 4x4 and received them quickly. When I was having trouble getting the front windows to fit on the doors, Bestop sent me directions and with the hint of starting the front pin first, I mastered getting the windows seated properly quickly.

Overall, I love the doors and they pair great with the Mopar uppers. If you are on the fence, I say go for it. I think they are the best half-doors for the money out there. I probably won't paint mine, they pair well with my crystal granite paint. Once it stops raining and stays warm up here in Ohio, this is going to be an awesome summer! Keep on Jeepin' on!
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For those still considering buying the Core Doors, I wanted to share my experience. These doors are awesome! I have a '16 JKU Sahara and have been considering all my options for half doors for a few years. When I saw the looks of the core doors and the fact that they were all metal, and the center panel was removable, I was sold. Ordered in February, received at the end of May and I couldn't be more thrilled. They look awesome, no rattles, and no leaks driving in rain. I paired them with Mopar half windows because my soft top is black diamond and I wanted a match and after some practice time installing the front windows, they seat perfectly. I love the inside of the door, they provide much more leg room than my full doors.

I did have some issues experienced by others, but consider them minor. My front doors do stick out a little at the bottom rear. This may be because I have plastic door sill guards, but it doesn't bother me a whole lot and don't want to try removing them. The driver upper, when first shut, does leave a bit of a gap in the upper back seal, but if I'm outside the Jeep, I just push it in and if I'm inside, I just grab the window plastic and pull it in. It seals and stays that way until I open the door again. Would it be great if I didn't have to do this, sure, but it's easy to correct. At first the back doors stuck a little when opening. This was caused by the plastic around the latch catching, but this has begun to ease up to the point of not noticing it anymore. With windows on, the doors were initially a little hard to close, but this has resolved itself with use and isn't an issue anymore.

Bestop has been great with customer service. I needed the mirror mounting cups and they sent them to me right away. Since I bought my Mopar windows elsewhere, I didn't have the grommets. Bestop offered to send me some when available, but I ended up finding some in stock at Morris 4x4 and received them quickly. When I was having trouble getting the front windows to fit on the doors, Bestop sent me directions and with the hint of starting the front pin first, I mastered getting the windows seated properly quickly.

Overall, I love the doors and they pair great with the Mopar uppers. If you are on the fence, I say go for it. I think they are the best half-doors for the money out there. I probably won't paint mine, they pair well with my crystal granite paint. Once it stops raining and stays warm up here in Ohio, this is going to be an awesome summer! Keep on Jeepin' on!
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we have heard a lot about the fit of the front doors. How are the back doors any issues there?
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we have heard a lot about the fit of the front doors. How are the back doors any issues there?
Back doors don't fit great, but better than front. They leak a bit as well. They also have gasket leaks on the panels. Their screws are also rusting. I think the main difference is it a smaller door so it has less issues. But generally, they suffer the same quality issues.

(Including the oddest smelling rubber I have ever smelled. Chinese baby fat?)

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