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Old 06-27-2016, 11:04 PM
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Lightbulb 24/7 Off Road Recovery service run by WF members? - Long Island ONLY

I started a Google listing for an Off Road Recovery service for far eastern Long Island, the idea being:
1. We're a bunch of guys who like to off road
2. We like helping out people stuck off road (and ONLY OFF ROAD)
3. We'd help by pulling said person off a beach, trail using our own winch/recovery gear
4. We'd get paid a fee that's fair to the person needing the pull (no friends, nobody to call, rented car/whatever and tow companies will charge $250+ AND take 45mins+ to arrive

The idea is we all share an email inbox. First person in the group to reply to a request, get details AND confirms they're on the way - they gets to keep the winnings. You recover the person's vehicle, they're happy, they pay much less than a tow truck, while you just got a fun, free offroad adventure + your gas + equipment basically paid for (lets say we charged $200 flat, or even below that if you think its reasonable

Right now nobody is offering this service, this cheap, by locals who know the trails/area/rules/laws, open to helping anyone truly in need, everyone's going to have a friendly personality and off roading knowledge, we'd only "charge" a fair price, and the rig that shows up (yours) is one you and the person know will get the job done.

What do you guys think? Sound fun? I wouldn't quit my day job. But seems like fun on the weekends. Anyone interested? I'm thinking of targeting Southampton and East Hampton this summer on weekends.

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First, I applaud your enthusiasm and it's a great idea, especially if we lived where there are legal wheeling opportunities. Second, it's a horrible idea to go off roading alone in the first place. But here are some Things to think about...

There are no legal trails on LI, so if a guy calls you and you go to help him on some private property or town property and get a ticket from the ranger or cop that shows up, who pays the ticket?

If a guy hooks up a recovery line to a vehicle and rips the bumper off the stuck vehicle, who pays for the bumper? Or a winch line snaps and the hook goes through a windshield?
Or the winch line rips someone's leg off? Who gets sued?

Will you carry extra insurance to cover yourselves?

What happens when a ranger or cop realizes you're getting paid to do a recovery on town property and considers you an unlicensed tow operator and hits you with $1000's in fines for operating without a tow license or town permit or insurance...

Sometimes thinking things out in advance will save you a lot of headaches...

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All good points. I don't know the answers, although the last point gives me the most pause. Hadn't thought of getting fined for an illegal tow company. I would hope that one off guy helping another (for some minimal exchange of cash) would be treated well, but I suppose you're right.

For what's effectively a good samaritan + minimal cash opportunity, you're right - its not worth the risk. Wrecker insurance alone would be $400+/month, then you need a business, an address, the requisite licences, etc. It all adds up.

The idea is a safe, cost effective solution for those "I got stuck" situations, without killing your wallet for a full-size wrecker service. Not to mention the wait time of easily 1 hr+ on LI, or that most tow services don't have serious off road rigs. Many are 20yr old rusted trucks with a lift, questionable locker, road tires and a heavily rusted winch.

Bad idea. You're right. Darn.
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I love the idea. Just don't think a village code enforcement or summer officer would love it...lol

Good Samaritan is one thing, but once the person you're "helping" has an issue with a scratch or bent bumper or a damaged plastics from your snatch rope or tow rope and he complains to the code enforcement guy or village cop, and says some thing about having to "pay" for this service or "I want his insurance info for a report...."

All bets are off.....

At the very least I think one would need to carry some type of liability insurance and a waiver for the stuck person to sign releasing you from responsibility of damages if they should choose to use your service.
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