Yeah, I knew you had good luck with yours. Someone was selling their Hard Rock rims and tires on JOA, and this other dude commented that if you wanted to add bigger tires you wouldn't be able to with the -0 offset of the stock rims and would need new rims and a lift. I said that you could with 1.5" spacers and a small lift and that's when the stupidity started. I blocked him and someone else carried on the convo with him. It just cracks me up that someone who works for 4 Wheel Parts would say something like that. Now I could see with large tires and heavy offroad use but he didn't specify.Yea, that's some good BS right there... I had mine for 13 months and factory ball joints are still solid.
I am adding aftermarket wheels with the same back spacing as the stock wheels with spacers and the "leverage and wear" will be effectively the same (my new wider heavier tire will actually be slightly worse)...
You see how many Jeeps out there are running aftermarket wheels? OMG I need to invest in the ball joint companies immediately...
Yeah.I think the places that are knocking spacers all the time, make a lot more money selling rims than spacers. Simple as that.
^^^Maybe, he just wanted to sell the more expensive wheels.On the JOA Facebook thread, some 'sales man' that works for a popular 'Truck and Jeep Accessory Superstore' in AZ claimed that if you put 1.5" wheel spacers on you'll be replacing your ball joints in 2 months!! I thought it was hilarious considering his place of employment sells spacers and he's a 'sales man'.
If you're not a member of JOA you won't be able to view the thread:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JeepOwnersOfAmerica/permalink/829388180474551/
Lol probably!^^^Maybe, he just wanted to sell the more expensive wheels.
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Non-technical posts might be humor?I love technical threads populated entirely with non-technical purely anecdotal posts.
Whether or not wheel spacers affect other components on the vehicle, no one can argue that they are the optimal solution for offset/backspacing. They are are cheaper solution that introduces complexity while changing factory engineered suspension/steering geometries.
It never fails. Post something factual like spacers are cheaper than wheels and somebody will come along to challenge the obvious.Non-technical posts might be humor?
Optimal for what? If someone is keeping their factory wheels, they are the optimal solution when running tires in excess of 11.0" wide.
I don't find them a cheap solution to anything... If you are keeping the factory wheels and running a larger tire, they are the only solution.
Many of the mods we do change factory engineered "stuff". Running big tires is one of them. If you want to stay with factory engineered suspension/steering geometry, by all means enjoy your stock Jeep.
Just an FYI. Some people actually like the factory wheels and want to run bigger tires. It has nothing to do with $$$... Don't assume the way you want to build your rig is the only way a rig can be built.It never fails. Post something factual like spacers are cheaper than wheels and somebody will come along to challenge the obvious.
If you want to run bigger tires, the optimal and more expensive solution is buying wheels with the correct offset.
If you don't find spacers a cheap solution, get a higher paying job.
Yup, I am one of them: I love the "stock" look, so I was running spacers for years; but didn't like (a) how much the tires went past the fender line, and (b) the shaking through the steering wheel whenever I hit a pothole, due to the added mass at the front hubs.Just an FYI. Some people actually like the factory wheels and want to run bigger tires. It has nothing to do with $$$... Don't assume the way you want to build your rig is the only way a rig can be built.
And also FYI, your proper offset wheels jack up the factory engineered suspension/steering geometry the same as spacers.
You're right, it never fails.
This sounds like a more optimal solution.Yup, I am one of them: I love the "stock" look, so I was running spacers for years; but didn't like (a) how much the tires went past the fender line, and (b) the shaking through the steering wheel whenever I hit a pothole, due to the added mass at the front hubs.
So I went with those Jeep Moab style wheels from Quadratec: Quadratec Exclusive 92615 2111 - Quadratec Moab Style Alloy Wheel for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK in 17x8.5" Size with 4.7" Backspacing - Quadratec. They are the best of both worlds: they keep the clean, stock look of the Jeep wheels, and have the right offset for 35" tires. They are very well crafted, and at $130/wheel, they offer great value!