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Hey folks,

I've found a 2010, 2 door Sport, soft top with a manual trans in really nice shape with 45,000 miles on it for $18,800 ODT.

It's a certified pre owned which adds two years to the drive train warranty and also gives it a 3 month/3,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty.

Thoughts on that price and that year Wrangler and one other thing.

It has an Infinity sub woofer in the back, does that mean it has the upgraded Infinity stereo?

Thanks...
 

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BUY NEW! You can get a new 2013 or 2014 sport model for around 22,000. Better engine than the 2010. Just my 2 cents
 

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My 0.02$ buy new.. not that much more, and new pentastar engine is worth the price difference IMHO.
 

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LOL.. Sucker Punch, you beat me by a 0.0000001 of a second..
 

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I have seen new Sports here with zero options for $19.5. Buy new, swap the stereo to something that sounds way better, buy some S package wheels/tires for $500 and you're good to go.
 

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I have seen new Sports here with zero options for $19.5.
The base MSRP on a Sport is $22,295 and a Sport S (which is what OP is looking at) is $24,595. So $19,500 is seriously discounted off of MSRP - that's got to be close to cost for the dealer. That's a rare deal, but it isn't impossible to obtain, especially since the model years are switching right now (get a 2013 that has been sitting for over 100 days). Of course, with this route, you probably won't get everything that you're looking for.

I think that a lot of this comes down to what options you want. That's where the price really skyrockets. My Jeep was around $28,000 new and it's pretty modestly equipped. Remember that the base Sport does not come with Air Conditioning, power windows, power locks, etc. The Jeep you're looking at has upgraded wheels, running boards, stereo, etc. 2010 was the last year for the first interior, so you won't get the interior that comes with the new models. I'm not sure how much that matters to you though. Also, there is the engine difference.

Jeeps don't depreciate quite as fast as other vehicles, but they still depreciate. As soon as you drive a new Jeep off the lot, you take a major hit. That's what happens with any new car. Maximum depreciation is going to be at around 2-3 years old with 20,000 to 60,000 miles on the odometer, depending on the vehicle. So you'd be buying that Jeep at maximum depreciation, which means that you'll get the most vehicle per dollar (considering what was originally paid for it, what you'll be paying for it, and what it will sell for a few years from now).

My take: How much value do you place on options and getting exactly what you want? You'll have a lot more to choose from with the used route, the bottom line won't be quite as expensive, you'll take advantage of depreciation, and the Jeep will be ready to go from day one. On the other hand, how much do you value owning a brand new vehicle? Is it more important than options and color, for example? Do you very much prefer the new engine and interior? If so, you may have to look around for a while, but going new may not be a bad idea.

Regardless, that price is pretty fair for the Jeep in question. If you can talk them down at all, it'd be a home run. But if not, it's still a fair buy.

With any used vehicle that you're considering, try entering it into the AutoTrader TIM and see what value comes up. Most dealers will pay a little more than the value listed on the TIM and then invest some money into the vehicle as well (fixing door dings, oil change, new tires, etc.). So that will give you a general idea of what the dealer paid for / has invested in the vehicle. With this particular Jeep, if you can get within $1,000 to $2,000 of the number that AutoTrader gives you, you've got yourself a good buy. I'm guessing that Jeep will come up with a value in the mid $16,000s to low $17,000s. If that's the case, $18,800 is probably within that $2,000 range and $17,800 would be a really nice buy.
 

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How can it be certified over the factory 36k warranty?
I guess I don't understand your question.

It's Certified Pre Owned By Jeep. It extends the drivetrain warranty to 7 years/100,000 miles (from 5 years/100,000 miles) from date of original sale and gives it a 3 month/3,000 mile bumper to bumper from date of current purchase.
 

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I have seen new Sports here with zero options for $19.5. Buy new, swap the stereo to something that sounds way better, buy some S package wheels/tires for $500 and you're good to go.
LOL, if you do the math I'd still be looking at $23-24K after wheels, tires, a stereo and the options this one has.

I can't afford that.
 

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I can't afford new fellas. It would be like $24,000 with tax and all for the same Jeep new...
Than that's your answer.
My take: if you can get the same interest rate as new (I did), it's in great shape (looks like it), and the price would allow you to either get into a Jeep or into a Jeep with more options, than great. One caveat: though the 10's are supposed to be reliable, they still have quirks. I had my heater core replaced last December and it's currently in for a carrier bearing. Make sure you save some money for the eventual repair.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.
 

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The base MSRP on a Sport is $22,295 and a Sport S (which is what OP is looking at) is $24,595. So $19,500 is seriously discounted off of MSRP - that's got to be close to cost for the dealer. That's a rare deal, but it isn't impossible to obtain, especially since the model years are switching right now (get a 2013 that has been sitting for over 100 days). Of course, with this route, you probably won't get everything that you're looking for.

I think that a lot of this comes down to what options you want. That's where the price really skyrockets. My Jeep was around $28,000 new and it's pretty modestly equipped. Remember that the base Sport does not come with Air Conditioning, power windows, power locks, etc. The Jeep you're looking at has upgraded wheels, running boards, stereo, etc. 2010 was the last year for the first interior, so you won't get the interior that comes with the new models. I'm not sure how much that matters to you though. Also, there is the engine difference.

Jeeps don't depreciate quite as fast as other vehicles, but they still depreciate. As soon as you drive a new Jeep off the lot, you take a major hit. That's what happens with any new car. Maximum depreciation is going to be at around 2-3 years old with 20,000 to 60,000 miles on the odometer, depending on the vehicle. So you'd be buying that Jeep at maximum depreciation, which means that you'll get the most vehicle per dollar (considering what was originally paid for it, what you'll be paying for it, and what it will sell for a few years from now).

My take: How much value do you place on options and getting exactly what you want? You'll have a lot more to choose from with the used route, the bottom line won't be quite as expensive, you'll take advantage of depreciation, and the Jeep will be ready to go from day one. On the other hand, how much do you value owning a brand new vehicle? Is it more important than options and color, for example? Do you very much prefer the new engine and interior? If so, you may have to look around for a while, but going new may not be a bad idea.

Regardless, that price is pretty fair for the Jeep in question. If you can talk them down at all, it'd be a home run. But if not, it's still a fair buy.

With any used vehicle that you're considering, try entering it into the AutoTrader TIM and see what value comes up. Most dealers will pay a little more than the value listed on the TIM and then invest some money into the vehicle as well (fixing door dings, oil change, new tires, etc.). So that will give you a general idea of what the dealer paid for / has invested in the vehicle. With this particular Jeep, if you can get within $1,000 to $2,000 of the number that AutoTrader gives you, you've got yourself a good buy. I'm guessing that Jeep will come up with a value in the mid $16,000s to low $17,000s. If that's the case, $18,800 is probably within that $2,000 range and $17,800 would be a really nice buy.
This Jeep's got all the options I want. I don't want power windows and all that. I also don't have to have the latest and greatest, nor can I afford it. This thing has plenty of power for what I would be using it for and is in great condition and runs great...

They won't budge on the price as they just reduced it from what they were asking. I've looked high and low on CL and autotrader.com and this really seems to be a good deal. KBB on this thing is like $22,000 before tax. The $18,800 is out the door.
 

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Than that's your answer.
My take: if you can get the same interest rate as new (I did), it's in great shape (looks like it), and the price would allow you to either get into a Jeep or into a Jeep with more options, than great. One caveat: though the 10's are supposed to be reliable, they still have quirks. I had my heater core replaced last December and it's currently in for a carrier bearing. Make sure you save some money for the eventual repair.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.
Payin' cash...

There isn't a vehicle out there that won't need something now and again (especially the way I drive :angel:). The money's already in the bank...lol
 

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I want to add, I am not trying to challenge any of you. Just trying to get the facts straight. I will take all into consideration.

I totally appreciate the feedback...I didn't get one response on another Jeep forum...

Thanks all!!
 
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