Jeep Wrangler Forum banner

1 - 20 of 92 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I've really been leaning towards getting a 2013 JKU Sport S Package. Yesterday I test drove a Tacoma 4X4 and found myself surprised that I really liked it. I know they're apples and oranges. Wondering if any of you are/had been in the same situation as me. I'm assuming the ones that were, now have a Jeep since it's a Jeep forum.

As much as I love these new Jeeps, I just have a few concerns as this will be my only vehicle and expect to have it for some time. My concerns are:
Safety (the Jeep doesn't have side air bags); dealing with cross-winds on the highway, reliability and long-term fit and finish.


Thoughts?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
519 Posts
Both reliable. Just depends if u want a little pick up or a badass jeep. If u want a good 4x4 capable of extreme 4x4ing. Orrrr a little pick up. If u were to get the jeep. And do a little modding to make it your own you wouldn't regret it. But just depends what u want it for
 

·
Retired Mod
Joined
·
11,135 Posts
Order one with front side airbags (you can get them on the Sport S, Sahara and Rubi, but not on a base Sport).

Add Ace Rock rails, and you should be pretty good from a side impact standpoint.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
218 Posts
i've had several different cars over the years. '99 nissan 4x4 frontier. '88 toyo LC. '01 VW jetta. '03 toyo sequoia. '03 bmw 5 series wagon sport.

they all had their pluses and minuses. but none of them compare to what i get with my jeep. none of them.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
666 Posts
My current ride is a 2011 TRD OR 4DR Tacoma, pretty much loaded w nice Leer topper + bed rug.

I purchased it new and planned to start building it up this year after the 3 year expired. Bottom line, if you want to carry four adults and have something to haul some camping gear around and wheel some fire roads and such, Tacomas are excellent trucks. It's also fine for hauling a few hundred pound of mulch and other household chores as needed.

I began to consider what I wanted to do with the Taco while keeping it tame enough for a DD. That's when I gave up and ordered a Rubicon.

Here's are my reasons, some very subjective:

-In spite of the fact it's a truck, the back won't carry much weight, and it won't comfortably tow all that much. It's a good compromise, but if I ever really need a truck, I will buy a bigger one. I learned my lesson on that. Always buy more truck than you think you will need. Today's half tons get the same MPG as the mids. I suggest anyone who needs a truck (hauling and towing) should buy a big damn truck.
-I had a Jeep (XJ). I've always loved Jeeps. I want another. I should have purchased a YJ back in the day and been done, or a TJ when they came out, but I always ended up being talked out of it.
-Modding up a Tacoma is more expensive, and when done, it's still a tail dragger, unless you go wild on it. Then it isn't very tame any more.
-I have owned both motorcycles (dirt and HD) and a convertible (S2K), the Tacoma is so perfectly sanitary, it drives me insane.

It's a very good vehicle, but I no longer want mine.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,424 Posts
I have both. The Tacoma is totally competent for the same kind of stuff you'd do with a stock Wrangler. Other than both being 4wd, I dont really see them filling the same niche. Just from what I read here, I will be amazed if the Jeep is half as reliable.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
720 Posts
Bar, I did exactly what you did, had almost the same concerns..minus the side airbags. Here is MY conclusion:

Reliability: Sorry Jeep but Toyota has a better track record for reliability.
Payload: Sorry Jeep but Toyota can tow more, plus it has a bed.
Off-Road capability: The tacoma can actually go off-road.
Ride: I would say On-road, I test drove a TRD (Turd) package and they felt similar (JKU)

Now if this is all you care for, then get the tacoma, it will fit you better.

BUT if you want:

A vehicle that always makes you wonder "where is that noise coming from?", "how can I find a way to make more money for mods" or the feeling of that smile when you get behind the wheel or the infamous Jeep wave, then a Jeep better suites you.

Like you I test drove both but in the end I ordered a Jeep unlimited because to me it is more than a mode of transportation... it's a way of life.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
22,013 Posts
from a purely rational point of view the Tacoma hands down is the winner. It can do more day in and day out then the wrangler. If you are going to modify either one to be a rock crawler hard core off road vehicle then the wrangler hands down. If you are looking at a nice vehicle to hit the back roads for camping etc they are both great in stock form. Cool thing about your choice is that they both are good choices. For what I do I would be happy with either one. I have a new jku 13 but after 6 months the coolness of being able to pull the top off has kind of faded.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,616 Posts
Off-Road capability: The tacoma can actually go off-road.
I guess we all have our ideas of what off-road is. I take my TrailBlazer off road all the time in some people's eyes but I just call it going to work or visiting family and friends.



No one asked the OP what is needed out of whatever vehicle is picked. That is the only way someone can deside what is best for them. And also need to decide if any mods are going to be done and if so to what extent.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
Discussion Starter #12
I should have elaborated a bit more on intended use besides being a daily driver:
- eventually pull a small camper
- haul bigger dog around
- long road trips
- no off-roading that I can foresee but could see taking it on dirt roads/fire trails.
- need something that does well in the snow
- hauling stuff like lawn mower to get fixed, small home improvement materials, small landscaping projects
- love the old school stick shift
 

·
Retired Mod
Joined
·
11,135 Posts
I should have elaborated a bit more on intended use besides being a daily driver:
- eventually pull a small camper
- haul bigger dog around
- long road trips
- no off-roading that I can foresee but could see taking it on dirt roads/fire trails.
- need something that does well in the snow
- hauling stuff like lawn mower to get fixed, small home improvement materials, small landscaping projects
- love the old school stick shift
Both would work, but I think the Tacoma would be better suited for your particular needs. Can you get it in a stick?

If you are not going to off-road a Wrangler, you really have to accept all of its faults as a pure SUV. I don't off-road my Wrangler...so it is pretty blah as an (overpriced) everday SUV.

But, the top does come, it is an American icon, and it is built in the USA. I use it more as an all season motorcycle.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,424 Posts
I guess we all have our ideas of what off-road is. I take my TrailBlazer off road all the time in some people's eyes but I just call it going to work or visiting family and friends.
Very true, the perspective thing is funny. It hit me when I first started watching Moab vids. As a dirt biker, watching trucks navigate obstacles seemed tedious -two spotters, stopping and backing up, trying lines 3 or 4 times unsuccessfully and taking 5 minutes to clear an obstacle I could cover in 15 seconds on a single cylinder bike.

I have come to appreciate it, but I'm not sure I will ever overcome the perspective that its all going down in ultra slow motion after 20 years of offroad motorcycles.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,554 Posts
I My concerns are:
Safety (the Jeep doesn't have side air bags); dealing with cross-winds on the highway, reliability and long-term fit and finish.
Sport S Wranglers can be ordered with side airbags. I'm not sure what that does to their safety ratings as compared to a Tacoma.

Highway crosswinds are indeed a bigger deal when you're driving a vehicle shaped like a brick that has a lot of ground clearance. But it's not as if wranglers are undrivable on the highway. I commute 70 miles per day in a wrangler with 2.5" of lift, and have never felt concerned. Test drive and decide whether it's a problem for you.

Reliability can be a problem with any individual vehicle, though certain brands are certainly less *likely* to give you problems. The odds are probably more on your side with a Toyota, though there are plenty of folks who will swear their Toyotas have been nothing but problems while their jeep never failed. Either way, you take your chances.

As to fit and finish, wranglers have come a long way recently. I personally like the old, blocky, no-nonsense interior of my 2010. Again though, this is a personal decision you have to make. Test drive them and see what you think of the fit and finish.

Ultimately, wranglers are never going to be as comfortable or as well-handling as other vehicles that are designed more specifically for onroad use. You've got to decide if the other benefits offered by a wrangler (top down, doors off, offroad capability, modifiability, etc.) are worth it to you.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
820 Posts
I bought a Taco TRD back in '06 (or '07) whichever. It was when the current style was introduced. I liked it ALOT. Didn't love it. Many of the same reasons as stated earlier, not really big enough to do the things that you need a truck for, but then again an open bed is easier to put stuff in than an enclosed cargo area. It was a great alternative to the minivan for hauling family around (4 door version). To me it felt like a 4WD Camry with a bed. Reliable, quiet, easy to drive and kinda boring.

I went through 2 other vehicles since that time, before buying the JKU.

Jeep is much more of a lifestyle... yada yada and unlike other convertibles, it's not a chick car or pr!ck car.

Get the Jeep.

edit* That's what my heart told me. I'm at the stage in life where my vehicle can be more of a personal statement than a practicle one. If you're not at that point, the Tacoma is a solid choice. You won't need any excuses for buying one.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
725 Posts
I should have elaborated a bit more on intended use besides being a daily driver:
- eventually pull a small camper
- haul bigger dog around
- long road trips
- no off-roading that I can foresee but could see taking it on dirt roads/fire trails.
- need something that does well in the snow
- hauling stuff like lawn mower to get fixed, small home improvement materials, small landscaping projects
- love the old school stick shift
Get the Toyota. A JKU can do all of that well except the hauling and trailering (depending on trailer size) and probably wouldn't be as comfortable for long drives. The Toyota is a pickup and that seems to be the core of what you want. A Jeep is something else.

Like others have said, a Jeep is a way of life, a lifestyle and something that brings the kind of smile to your face every time you drive it that no ordinary vehicle can. Some of us even just enjoy looking out our windows at our Jeep in the driveway or parking lot. "It's a Jeep thing." And a Jeep is a platform that you personalize as yours with whatever mods tickle your fancy and express your individuality. None of these things were in your needs inventory. With that in mind you should get the Toyota. :thumb:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
Discussion Starter #19
Wait... hold on! I want to love what I drive (grin) and not get bored with it. Hence the worry about the Tacoma getting tiresome. It may not but don't know that for sure.

I need to go test drive them both back to back this weekend.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
613 Posts
If it comes down to having an open truck bed or an SUV body, I've found an 8x10 trailer to be the compromise so I could get the 4X4 with T-Tops a.k.a. JEEP WRANGLER:D
 
1 - 20 of 92 Posts
Top