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Hey I know this probably a "newbie" question....I've owned my Yj since November and I just got the 4wd working today. I never knew that the first gauge lights up to say 4WD, I always thought it was a blank dummy gauge. So I'm curious that if the "4WD" lights up on the top half of the gauge is anything supposed to light up on the bottom half? I was thinking maybe it was for 4 LOW but nothing lit up when I engaged it.
 

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Hey thanks! At least I know there's not something else broken haha. Slowly getting all the gremlins out of this thing.....
 

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Hmmm. What year is your YJ?
I'm new too, mine is an '89 and I don't think mine has that indicator.
If I am indeed correct, where is the indicator for the '89?
My FWD works but I have no indicator light, hoping it's just a bulb I can replace.

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Hmmm. What year is your YJ?
I'm new too, mine is an '89 and I don't think mine has that indicator.
If I am indeed correct, where is the indicator for the '89?
My FWD works but I have no indicator light, hoping it's just a bulb I can replace.

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You have a clock, 93-95 have an 4WD indicator

But an idea just occurred to me, one could probably install a small OLED clock under the 4WD indicator... hmm.
 

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You have a clock, 93-95 have an 4WD indicator


Oh, ok. And.... the clock actually works!
Now, where is my FWD indicator?
Is it in the center of my dash where my seat belt and high beam lights are?


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Hmmm. What year is your YJ?
I'm new too, mine is an '89 and I don't think mine has that indicator.
If I am indeed correct, where is the indicator for the '89?
My FWD works but I have no indicator light, hoping it's just a bulb I can replace.

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You have indicator lights above the steering wheel where the blinkers and high beam lights up, there is a bulb, it gets power from a vacuum switch when you engage 4 wheel drive it lights up. if you are not getting a light it could be the bulb but it could also not be engaging, just because you shift the transfer case into 4 wheel does not mean the front diff. is engaging, you have a cad unit mounted on the passenger side of the front diff. that gets vacuum to engage. I had to go through this with my 89, thought it was in 4 wheel just to find out it wasn't. Hope it's just the bulb.
 

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You have a clock, 93-95 have an 4WD indicator

But an idea just occurred to me, one could probably install a small OLED clock under the 4WD indicator... hmm.
That would be pretty cool, but I'm not sure how that would work. The gauges are all one big unit and you would have to disassemble the whole thing to take it apart. Still though, that bottom area is in need of something. Hmmm
 

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You have indicator lights above the steering wheel where the blinkers and high beam lights up, there is a bulb, it gets power from a vacuum switch when you engage 4 wheel drive it lights up. if you are not getting a light it could be the bulb but it could also not be engaging, just because you shift the transfer case into 4 wheel does not mean the front diff. is engaging, you have a cad unit mounted on the passenger side of the front diff. that gets vacuum to engage. I had to go through this with my 89, thought it was in 4 wheel just to find out it wasn't. Hope it's just the bulb.


I've drug it across the frame a few times getting it to hunting/fishing spots.
The FWD works fine, there's just no indicator to let me know it's working.
Unless you count the front tires throwing mud all over the hood, windshield, top, and front seats an indicator, lol.
Thanks for the info though.

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You have a clock, 93-95 have an 4WD indicator
Maybe the indicator was added in 91 when they witched from carburetor to fuel injected as my 92 has it as well. And I believe my friend 91 does too. Not to hammer your knowledge. but if your right I found another mod that was done
 

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You could be correct, I just did a quick google search to determine the year range.

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91-95 had the indicators, however I believe just the late 91's had it as I have seen too many 91's with clocks to be a coincidence.

87-90/91 YJ the 4wd light is in the center of the dash along with the seat belt, parking brake, and high beams.
 

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I've had that piece out of the dash before. There is no "screen" on the bottom half to shine light through, and there is no light bulb. The screen and bulb are only on the top. And there is a difference between FWD and 4WD that is enough to write home about. These small differences (D ring vs shackle, lock ring vs snap ring, tow strap vs recovery strap) are enough to cause an improper repair due to a wrong part/tool, misunderstanding, etc. Given this context, there are no front wheel drive Wranglers, but someone may not know that.

For example, there are lock rings in the transfer case. They require lock ring pliers. Many people call them snap rings. Snap ring pliers won't work on these clips. Small terminology difference, big difference when you spend an extra hour screwing around with snap ring pliers.
 

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I agree with MM. Accuracy is important in speech to convey the correct meaning by the speaker.
Often the correct interpretation can be made by examining the context. But not always.

As I read many posts, it is obvious that the poster never proof reads his/her post. It's difficult to give good advice if the question isn't clear.
There is a sticky on the top of this page labeled "A better way to get help when posting on the technical forum". It should be required reading prior to a newbie being able to post.

The harder we try to be accurate in our speech (and writing) the better our communication with others will be and our lives will benefit from it.

Good Luck, L.M.
 

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So, you guys thought my wrangler was FWD, huh.
I spent the last 15 years of my previous career teaching everything from CPR, to firearms, to report writing for the DOJ.
I am currently a public school teacher. I know how to write and speak correctly. I know (and teach) to speak/write to your audience. I just didn't know my audience here included the grammar police.
I thought it was more geared toward like-minded individuals helping each other.
To those who said to themselves "I know what he means" and offered advice, thank you, I appreciate it.


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I know what you mean but someone who isn't familiar with YJs reading this thread may not understand. Nothing wrong with trying to clear up confusion, all good here.

Instructor9, thank you for your service to the public school systems. Public education has been entrusted with the future of this country.
 

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You would think a teacher of all things would understand the importance of getting small details correct.

Instructor9, you said it yourself. "To those who said to themselves 'I know what he means' and offered advice, thank you". However your assumption that EVERYONE knows what you mean is the problem. I appreciate your comments and I didn't mean to start any kind of grammar lesson here, but if the object is to make things clear, why is there a debate about it? MMYJ's example of lock rings vs snap rings is an excellent example. Sure, knowledgeable people will "know what I mean" but others may not and that can cause problems. Can we move on now?
 
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