It depends on model and everything and what year you want a2012 or 13. you need to figure out exactly what you want or find the vehicle your going after before you can start negotiating price. That's how people mess up they don't know why options are or what they should payen1ma said:After a day of reading threads I've seen two mentioning how "they wish they knew better" in a way over certain options/prices/etc.
So if a sticky was created, or if you were to tell me a few things, what would it be?
I really appreciate it! Thanks!
I agree with all he has said but a few things. The max tow package includes the 3.73 gear and is inexpensive unless to want to instal the tow hitch yourself after waiting a week for shipping, the stock sound system is not terrible but the connectivity is a plus and a great package for anyone with a smartphone. 3.21s if your not offroading and dot live in mountains are fine I've driven both (wish I would have got the 3.73 because of if I want bigger tires) but they are basically the same on road and I felt minimal difference in my auto. Hard top is a must A MUST unless your love somewhere that doesn't snow or rain a lot or you like cabin noise a little less loud. LSD is nice and very cheap I believe $279? But the navi is cheaper someone just posted one by pioneer for $379 and they charge what a thousand at the dealer? Heated seats are coo if you live up north, leather is also cool but gets very hot or cold depending on weather and will prob fade if you leave your top down. Other than that the outlet on the armrest is cool but unneeded it you get connectivity due to the USB in the armrest but they're is a lot of options just read up or go to dealer and try them out and see what you likescuba_steve said:Okay...I'll bite.
[*]Know the invoice price before you walk through the door.
[*]Pay no more that 1% under invoice with $75 in total dealer fees. Join Tread Lightly for 3 years for $60 to get this price...although you should be able to do better.
[*]Don't pay for dealer-installed options. Not a dime...unless YOU asked for them.
[*]Don't negotiate for any combined trade-in/financing price...or monthly payment price. Negotiate each part of the deal separately. i.e., negotiate for the out-the-door price on the new wrangler first...THEN negotiate for a trade price if you have one...and THEN discuss financing.
[*]I'm not a fan of paying for rustproofing or service plans, but others might disagree.
[*]Get the axle ratio that you want at the dealer. Changing it after the fact is very expensive. BTW, IMO, 3.21 is not great...and 3.73 is the best bet for 90% of people rocking an auto trans...and I say that as a guy with 4.10
[*]If you don't know why you would want a Rubicon, you probably don't need one, but hey, it's your money...so go wild.
[*]If you think that you might want a hard top, get it when you buy the wrangler...either with the dual top option or by just getting a hard top and potentially adding a soft top later. Buying an OEM hard top after the fact is pretty expensive...and you have a lot more attractive options for third-party soft tops.
[*]Trailer tow option is a rip off as of 2013...and the price just went up more. It includes nothing more than the hitch and harness, which you can get for under $100 on Quadratec.
[*]Seat heat is nice...and is pretty inexpensive if you get it at delivery. Of course, if you live in Florida, you might not need it.
[*]I personally love the combination of 430N and connectivity group. My text messages are read to me, I can change channels by speaking, etc....and to me, it wasn't worth the hassle of adding in a head unit after the fact...but keep in mind that the stock sound sort of sucks and portions of the Nav/DVD will not work when you are in drive....so if you are an audiophile and don't mind giving up full steering wheel integration, you might be able to hook yourself up better at Crutchfield.
Anyone have suggestions for my questions at the end?en1ma said:You guys gave great tips. Thank you so much. I think this will be valuable to others as well.
Yes, I've been reading a lot about lifting. What's it take to lift a Jeep? Does it void warranty? How much does it cost? What are good brands?
So basically, I've found out this is what I want:
* Hard Top
* Black Rims
* Colors = [Black, Matte Black, White, "Winter Chill", maybe the dark Red]
* All Season Tires (something that will do good for city+light snow).
* Anything modern related to tech and connectivity (I'm a tech guy).
Wants but not required:
* Leather seats
From there I don't really know what to do because I'm a noob. I just know that I *must* have black rims on a Jeep to satisfy my quench. Anytime I've seen it I've gone "Holy shit I want that." In fact, driving back home today I saw a JKU Black on Black lifted. Holy shit that thing was SICK.
Now given that... what prices should I be looking at? How do I know what invoice is? Oh and I probably want a LSD don't I? I guess I'll add that to the list.
Edit: Should I get a model of the JKU with black rims or should I buy it aftermarket? I'd lean towards getting it how I want out of the dealer but maybe I don't know any better.
Okay, so how do I figure out the right price? How do I know the invoice price?Pay no more than 1% under invoice with $75 in total dealer fees. Join Tread Lightly for 3 years for $60 to get this price...although you should be able to do better.