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I’ve heard dealers can add, or remove, some features the public can’t on the website? I’m possibly looking at the Sport S with the larger 7” radio group but WITHOUT the cold weather or convenience features (neither are needed where I live). I am also looking for removing the push button FOB start feature (just an old style regular key). When ready I’ll call or email a dealer to see if either are doable, but thought I’d check here.
 

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I think you are going to have to wait a few more months to make that happen. If the car isn't selling the dealership will probably do next to anything you want to get you in the car. But removing parts is labor and then storing the part so unless they are desperate not going to happen. With the car only being on the market truly for 1 month you are going to have to wait.


Adding stuff for sure they'll do it. I got a nice deal $700 for the hard tonneau that I negotiated for when buying the JT. Its not being shipped for 1-2 more weeks though.
 

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The push button keyless start is built into the basic design of the vehicle and cannot be removed without a lot of expense and effort. No dealer will do that, because it's a basic design of the vehicle. The serrated "key" is only to open the door if the remote system fails. Like the Mercedes fobs that Chrysler had for a while (not on Wranglers) that had a small key in the fob, that was only good for the door. The fob was the key in the ignition.

That would be like asking the dealer to swap the manual transmission on the Green on into the Red on because you like it better but want a manual rather than the automatic it came with. The answer would be a firm, resounding and permanent "NO". Keep in mind that today you are also affection what the computer controls as well.

Some bolt on features can be added or removed by the dealer. They will not remove something on a vehicle on the lot because you don't like it. If negotiations get tense, they may heavily discount the vehicle so you basically get them free. If you really want something that is easily added and is on another vehicle that you don't like, they may swap it over. Years ago I bought a LeBaron Station Wagon that had an 8 track player but I wanted a cassette player. They sold me the car with the understanding they would get me a cassette player radio and swap it out. They ordered a PU with the cassette player and when it arrived I went by and they swapped them over. But, those radios were not connected to a computer in any way like they are today. They are no longer simple radios.

Dealers don't want to clutter up their parts department with take offs. At one time it was illegal for dealers to swap tires out because of Fed Regs regarding recalls. But obviously that has changed. They will put lifts, wheels and tires on Wranglers (and Gladiators?) but you have to watch them closely as those take offs have value and rarely do they take that into account on the add on prices.
 
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BTW — the reason for preferring a traditional key is that if and when we get a JT, it’ll be shipped to the Caribbean and used for shore diving (4-5 days a week) ... dry boxes can fail and I’d hate to short out the FOB and be stranded.


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My first suggestion would have been to put it in a plastic bag, but food storage bags are not designed for handling and most plastic bags aren't either.

My second suggestion would have been to put it in a compartment somewhere in the Jeep and lock the vehicle without setting off the alarm. Then have a plain metal key cut for the door. But then realized that the Jeep would probably be topless and door less.

I don't know enough about the new system to know if the Jeep queries a chip in the fob (as in the Sentry Key system) in which the chip is passive in the fob and the only transmitter is for the remote lock/unlock and remote start (assuming it doesn't have the proximity access to unlock the doors). I have seen posts where people store their spare in a box lined with foil to block the signals from being scanned from the street. Not sure if a metal lock box (like the Tuffy products) under the seat would block the system from working. If it did, you could lock the fob in the box and only take the key to the box with you. The when you return, unlock the box and remove the fob, press start and go on your way.
 
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Agreed with RGreen. Dealers will most likely not let you swap out the ignition unless you pay them a nice handful of cash and void any warranties surrounding the ignition.

If your worry is simply that you might break the key: I would order an extra 2-3 keys, or find a way to waterproof/seal the key using rubber/plastic coatings, it should still work if the key is airtight with a light coat of something. That can save you a few thousand $ over replacing the ignition.
 

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Good to know .. but likely not down to 100’ or deeper. I’m thinking of keeping one of the FOBs in a vacuum sealed bag and the bag inside a dry box. No real reason to ever remove it from the sealed bag (I don’t think?). The car will never be locked and the push to start should work with the FOB in the bed of the truck in a BCD pocket.


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I have a different but similar question. Can the dealer order a unique setup for your Wrangler where the online configuration does not allow? For example, can the dealer order matching fenders and hard top for a 2 door Sport S? Online configuration only allows for Rubicon
 

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I’ve heard dealers can add, or remove, some features the public can’t on the website? I’m possibly looking at the Sport S with the larger 7” radio group but WITHOUT the cold weather or convenience features (neither are needed where I live). I am also looking for removing the push button FOB start feature (just an old style regular key). When ready I’ll call or email a dealer to see if either are doable, but thought I’d check here.
I have a different but similar question. Can the dealer order a unique setup for your Wrangler where the online configuration does not allow? For example, can the dealer order matching fenders and hard top for a 2 door Sport S? Online configuration only allows for Rubicon
You guys need to talk to a fleet manager at your local dealer. The fleet manager orders all the vehicles and can tell you if you can order certain things or models that are available that you can’t see on the Jeep public website.

I was trying to acquire a certain model Grand Cherokee I could build on the Jeep website, it showed some in inventory on the Jeep website, but in the end I couldn’t order that combination because it was a fleet order combination only.

The fleet manager didn’t know the details, but he couldn’t configure the order in the system for a one off delivery in California. He determined it was special combination for some sort of municipal.

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You have drybox failure? That seems to be more unlikely to happen than you beating Trump in the next election.
 

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I’m possibly looking at the Sport S with the larger 7” radio group but WITHOUT the cold weather or convenience features (neither are needed where I live).

Typically there isn't any way for a dealer to "wave" the factory requirements which come with ordering certain options or packages.
 

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Had a JL Rubi fob. Went in a hot tub with it in my pocket. It is not waterproof lol.

I went into a hot tub, with my keys still in my pants pocket. Not a problem since my pants didn't go into the hot tub too. You all wear your pants in the hot tub? :redface:
 
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As far as adding the 7" screen as a stand alone option, that also can be done but would cost a fortune. The hardware alone would be over $1,500 and then the dealer will charge labor to install and possibly program it. And, even after all of that you won't have use of knobs to control volume, power, etc. You'll only be able to use the steering wheel buttons.

Definitely not worth it to me, but I guess some folks have different tastes.
 
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