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Wellll... Being as you asked...

I agree with your statements about killing and religion. Gets back to my previous statement about what is in a mans heart and if the spirit is working through them. Many tragic events have occurred in the name of any religion and "God".

I can only tell you why I believe in God and Jesus. First of all, I was raised in one of the prominent christian religions. I never believed any of it and as soon as I was old enough, I told my parents no more church. So one night me and my buddies were out in the family station wagon needed for the rest of the family to go to church in the next day. 2:00am stuck a good 3 miles off road where I could sit up under the rear axle. We hiked out to the country road and started walking. I had no idea where to or what to do when I got there the $2 in my wallet wasn't paying for a tow truck.

Out of desperation and not being able to think of anything else to do, I said a quick prayer. "God, you know I don't believe you exist, but if you get me out of this, I will look into it". Wasn't even a minute and these dudes in a 4x4 pickup stopped and got us out. Made me go Hmm.... Anyway I am a man of my work and if there is a God, I had better keep it. So I started looking for evidence of a God. Since then, I have many, many stories of God answering my prayers over the years that I can not deny his existence. I also had friends who were devil worshipers so good vs evil was a point of conversation from time to time.

Growing up on a farm and with nature, I had always noticed that "mother nature" works in a certain way. With out going into details that you won't believe (I wouldn't believe if I hadn't lived it myself) I witnessed events that I could not explain other than "super natural". I use the word ghost, because the English language doesn't have any other word to describe what I lived through. You know when you watch a movie about a haunted house and there is a part of you saying just leave you idiots? Well I had bought a house and sold it 6 months later because of this weird stuff.

In any case life's organization and how it interacts I had always credited to "Mother Nature". Organized structure could only be arranged by an intelligent being. Well the English language also has a word for that - God.

Why am I a Christian as opposed to other religions? For starters I was raised in a Christian home and predominately Christian country. So I started reading the Bible. At first it was just another story book. Then all of a sudden the stories started having deeper meanings and I had better understanding. My spirit woke up. I had to start over and reread from the beginning with better understanding.

If you want an answer with out all that spirit stuff. Ask all the religions where their "god" or prophet is. All but Christians can point to a place where he is dead and buried. Jesus is alive, so he is the one I'll connect with. I am a strong believer and Christian, however I don't associate with any specific Christian religion and haven't been to church in years. Too many false teachers and false doctrine, etc...

In short, there is nothing anyone can say or do to introduce you to God. It is something you have to do in your own heart. Obviously if you don't believe you have no incentive to do so.
Well... if I thought religion was a good thing, I might try it just out of curiosity, but from my perspective it does more damage than anything else so I ask myself why it's needed (or wanted for that matter). Do you need religion to be a good person? No. An honest person? No. To be a happy person? No. To teach you right from wrong? No.... so why then?

Are there unexplained wonders in the world? Sure there are, but then on the other hand thousands of years ago fire and lightening were wonders of the world which couldn't be explained. It was said that God was angry. Of course we know better now. Are there things which we will never understand? Sure... but how does one jump to the conclusion that God must exist merely because we don't fully understand something which we want so desperately to pin an answer to... and I wonder if indeed THAT is the answer to why.... Desperation. We all have it and feel it from time to time, but obviously it affects us all in different ways. It's just a ballpark guess though coming from someone who won't be picking up a bible anytime soon!

Me? I can't think of anyone in my family who ever got into religion. I come from a long line of more logic based people. My Grandfather was an adult psychiatrist, my grandmother a child psychiatrist, mother a Nurse, father a Doctor, Uncle... Doctor, Aunt... Doctor... etc.... so maybe that is the difference. There was no religious back ground of any kind. The way I was raised....Unanswered questions simply need more data and more time to percolate.

I'm not sure though at what point I began to go from a simple non believer to a person who believes this to be dangerous stuff the world should just plain get rid of. I think as I got older though and began to see what appears to my eyes anyway to be the more hypocritical side of it... the catholic church and all the money and riches they have.... God loves all, but then gay people.... Christians burning the Koran...Islam wishing death on Christians.... blah blah blah... To me it's all just become highly destructive stuff to humanity as a whole.
 

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What you are describing is religion. People putting a spin on events to suite their personal agenda is not something new the media just started. Being a Christian with out a religious affiliation is like trying to keep up on current events with out watching the news, etc.. Just as the media is one sided in it's political coverage, it has been putting Christianity in a bad light for years. Christian are no where near perfect people so there will be hypocrisy that everyone will see.
 

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Just as the media is one sided in it's political coverage, it has been putting Christianity in a bad light for years. Christian are no where near perfect people so there will be hypocrisy that everyone will see.
It’s not a coincidence. 90% of the media is an arm of the Democratic Party and any good socialist knows that Christians are a major threat to their agenda. Remember that in a socialist government the government is your religion and none other is allowed.
 

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What you are describing is religion. People putting a spin on events to suite their personal agenda is not something new the media just started. Being a Christian with out a religious affiliation is like trying to keep up on current events with out watching the news, etc.. Just as the media is one sided in it's political coverage, it has been putting Christianity in a bad light for years. Christian are no where near perfect people so there will be hypocrisy that everyone will see.
Agreed. But it's just one more thing to spin, misuse, and misunderstand. Granted if humans didn't have religion to spin, they would probably think of something else... but that's another topic.

Anyway... let me assure you... the world would have an easier time pulling teeth from a live bull with a rusty set of pliers... then they would in converting me :)
 

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Where is the vaccine for the SARS? Oh that’s right there isn’t one. I have serious doubts whether there will ever be a vaccine for COVID-19 that will work for a virus that mutates. That’s probably the same reason there is no vaccine for the common flu/cold.
 

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Where is the vaccine for the SARS? Oh that’s right there isn’t one. I have serious doubts whether there will ever be a vaccine for COVID-19 that will work for a virus that mutates. That’s probably the same reason there is no vaccine for the common flu/cold.
SARS isn't a money maker anymore.... not enough deaths and pandemonium.
As far as I know they have tried to come up with a cold shot but have failed.
There is a flu vaccine. Been out for years but it's only like 40 to 60% effective

A covid vaccine... yeah I agree with you.... good luck.
 

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Please explain how that is whining? They are expressing themselves.

Whining is not something I ever associate with freedoms.

Maybe your view is that all contrary belief systems are "whining"?

Yeah... that's little much.
If you have time to stand on the street and whine about the selfishness of others... then clearly you don't have a life.. and need one.
 

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Please explain how that is whining? They are expressing themselves.

Whining is not something I ever associate with freedoms.

Maybe your view is that all contrary belief systems are "whining"?
No.
They're whining, and it has nothing to do with what's written on the sign. Clearly she is so bored with her life she actually has to invent ways to vent her own personal frustrations on others. If she was really serious about what's on the sign then she would ACTIVELY do something about it.
 

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So using freedoms, making a sign, and protesting is not actively doing something?

Definition of activism


: a doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue


No.
They're whining, and it has nothing to do with what's written on the sign. Clearly she is so bored with her life she actually has to invent ways to vent her own personal frustrations on others. If she was really serious about what's on the sign then she would ACTIVELY do something about it.
 

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No.
They're whining, and it has nothing to do with what's written on the sign. Clearly she is so bored with her life she actually has to invent ways to vent her own personal frustrations on others. If she was really serious about what's on the sign then she would ACTIVELY do something about it.
Well at least she is out doing something. Unlike me who is just sitting on a couch eating pizza and babbling on a forum
 

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It’s whining because the religion of logic says it’s whining. Can’t argue with that. One can tell her whole life history just by looking at her, isn’t it obvious?
 

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Please explain. Also do not try to tell me that folks should get a lawyer or vote.

Those do not work for the individual.
Well, a lawyer would actually be a progressive and active way of seeking change.... and some have even done it. The problem is that most people don't want to invest money into seeking change, so they paint a sign and stand on the sidewalk complaining about life, in effect....
WHINING.
I really have no patience for that sort of thing. If you don't like your life or part of it.... then GET UP AND CHANGE IT. Stop whining with your silly (and for the lost part... INEFFECTIVE) signs.
 

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Well, a lawyer would actually be a progressive and active way of seeking change.... and some have even done it. The problem is that most people don't want to invest money into seeking change, so they paint a sign and stand on the sidewalk complaining about life, in effect....
WHINING.
I really have no patience for that sort of thing. If you don't like your life or part of it.... then GET UP AND CHANGE IT. Stop whining with your silly (and for the lost part... INEFFECTIVE) signs.
Ineffective isn’t the word I would use, it got you and others talking about that poor lady and her sign! so there’s that. Could be she’s a nonessential citizen therefore has plenty of time on her hands. She obviously doesn’t want to invest money in a “Lawyer“. Kudos for her for at least getting out there. Sometimes change takes a long time and a lot of commitment. Even then that’s no guarantee that change will happen but at least she tried, that’s more than I can say for a lot of people out there. The lemmings who just want to follow along and believe everything they hear as gospel.
 

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The 3% didn’t need a lawyer and got the job done.
 
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