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Death wobbles after ~12k miles?

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Hey all! I posted back in 2020 in the welcome channel asking for which to buy. I ended up with a JL and have been loving it 馃槉 However I already got the death wobble after ~12k miles?! I was in the far left lane on a major interstate going 60 (there was a left exit) and it started after hitting some bumps causing me to slow all the way down to ~30mph, toss my hazards on, & pray -no way that's safe on a major interstate like that. My old XJ had this twice and I was appalled that such a new Jeep also had this occurring. The shop said the u-joints were torqued wrong & they're swapping the damper. Anyone else have the death wobble on their new Jeep?

P.S. Also trying to figure out how to post the hard top for sale without it getting lost in a sea of postings of hard-topped Jeeps.
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Debated many times ... but I'll say it again: True "Death Wobble" doesn't stop unless the vehicle is brought to a full stop (or near that). Stopping at 30mph isn't death wobble ... it is a vibration or shimmy. And if the damper replacement fixes it, then it wasn't death wobble in the first place.

Now ......... Let the disagreements begin ......... :rolleyes:
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Debated many times ... but I'll say it again: True "Death Wobble" doesn't stop unless the vehicle is brought to a full stop (or near that). Stopping at 30mph isn't death wobble ... it is a vibration or shimmy. And if the damper replacement fixes it, then it wasn't death wobble in the first place.

Now ......... Let the disagreements begin ......... :rolleyes:
I'm not going to disagree. I'm going to just leave. 馃憢
Jeep issued Technical Service Bulletins to dealers on Steering Damper.. Check with your dealership service dept. BTW it was steering oscillation.
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Leaving because someone explained the likely condition instead of the probably incorrect description? Not much of a way to learn anything about your Wrangler ............
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I'm not going to disagree. I'm going to just leave. 馃憢
Unfortunately the term Death Wobble has been so abused to describe any vibration felt in a Jeep. It is a technical term and should be used correctly, for otherwise it becomes an ever ending chase to really find out what caused the vibration. The reason it is called Death Wobble is that the ONLY way to stop it is to come to a complete stop or nearly so. It will also severely damage your vehicle is not corrected. It is also not unique to a Jeep, but any vehicle that uses coil front suspension. Fords and Dodges are two others that you will see on YouTube as having the issue, but I'm sure there are many others.

There is a very extensive description of the Jeep TJ and JK (and therefore the JL) suspension and how to diagnose and correct the various shimmys and wobbles found on vehicles with coil front suspensions.

It may not even be the Jeep. There is a stretch of I-75 in S. Georgia from MM 30 to about MM 16 that has the ability to impart a vibration into the vehicle to the point the first time you hit it, you think it's time to go in and get your tires re balanced. Then you encounter a pavement change and all of a sudden the vehicle is driving smooth again, and you didn't even have to rebalance the tires. This stretch has been that way for years.
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Steering issues, have been somewhat of a issue with the JL's, starting back in 2018. Some of these are a challenge to figure out the cause. But your Dealer is responsible to diagnose the issue, and apply whatever needed to make it right. That is what warranty is for.
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Just remember to have realistic expectations. It is pretty clear there is some sort of inherent design flaw in the JL front steering/suspension that has caused so many parts revisions and reports of death wobble or steering shimming. Yes warranty will cover repairs with parts that may still be marginal and a contributing factor in the current issues. I understand not wanting to spend money but sometimes out of the pocket expense on aftermarket parts may be a better long term solution. Jeep wants to make money and repair issues as cheaply as possible and down play the seriousness of the issues. Some bean counter has already decided the risk factor and chance of death from the current design issues warrants the cheapest repairs possible to maximize profits until "X" number of serious injuries or deaths have occurred.
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It's only death wobble if it comes from the oscillation de la mort region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling vibration. /s
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Steering issues, have been somewhat of a issue with the JL's, starting back in 2018. Some of these are a challenge to figure out the cause. But your Dealer is responsible to diagnose the issue, and apply whatever needed to make it right. That is what warranty is for.
Problem is, if the dealer cannot replicate the issue, it won鈥檛 lift a finger.

But it will still keep your Jeep for 10 days and won鈥檛 give you a loaner.
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Problem is, if the dealer cannot replicate the issue, it won鈥檛 lift a finger.

But it will still keep your Jeep for 10 days and won鈥檛 give you a loaner.
Now that depends on the dealer. My dealer has no issues supplying a loaner. I had one multiple times.


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Now that depends on the dealer. My dealer has no issues supplying a loaner. I had one multiple times.


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Nice. Unfortunately, the remaining 99% of Jeep dealers are absolutely terrible.
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Hey all! I posted back in 2020 in the welcome channel asking for which to buy. I ended up with a JL and have been loving it 馃槉 However I already got the death wobble after ~12k miles?! I was in the far left lane on a major interstate going 60 (there was a left exit) and it started after hitting some bumps causing me to slow all the way down to ~30mph, toss my hazards on, & pray -no way that's safe on a major interstate like that. My old XJ had this twice and I was appalled that such a new Jeep also had this occurring. The shop said the u-joints were torqued wrong & they're swapping the damper. Anyone else have the death wobble on their new Jeep?

P.S. Also trying to figure out how to post the hard top for sale without it getting lost in a sea of postings of hard-topped Jeeps.
First, do not let the squeakers on this site who dismiss your experience affect you. There is ZERO excuse for the type of experience in a nearly new vehicle.

Second, Death Wobble has no official definition. Just one created by people. It is not an engineering term.

Lastly, Jeep has admitted to the problem, thanks to a proper class-action lawsuit.

Jeep "Death Wobble" Class Action Lawsuit and Settlement (legalscoops.com)

Do not let anyone minimize the issue (forum members or dealers). It is serious, it is prevalent for 5 years on the JL and steering dampers do not fix it.

There is no fix for what is a design flaw in the JL.
Not doubting you personally, but that looks like nothing but an ad from a law firm trying to make money.

Have you any firm knowledge of anyone actually being reimbursed or issued a buy-back because of this lawsuit?

Has there been anything from NHTSA on this?

Has Mopar issued any recalls or consumer safety alerts?
First, do not let the squeakers on this site who dismiss your experience affect you. There is ZERO excuse for the type of experience in a nearly new vehicle.

Second, Death Wobble has no official definition. Just one created by people. It is not an engineering term.

Lastly, Jeep has admitted to the problem, thanks to a proper class-action lawsuit.

Jeep "Death Wobble" Class Action Lawsuit and Settlement (legalscoops.com)

Do not let anyone minimize the issue (forum members or dealers). It is serious, it is prevalent for 5 years on the JL and steering dampers do not fix it.

There is no fix for what is a design flaw in the JL.
At least Jeep has been working on it. Other manufacturers with straight axles aren鈥檛.


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At least Jeep has been working on it. Other manufacturers with straight axles aren鈥檛.


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Other manufacturers do not have this issue on brand new vehicles with less than 10k miles on them.

Jeep 'Death Wobble' settlement agreement details uncovered (freep.com)
Now that depends on the dealer. My dealer has no issues supplying a loaner. I had one multiple times.
that's not encouraging feedback for newbies...

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Nice. Unfortunately, the remaining 99% of Jeep dealers are absolutely terrible.
Have to DISAGREE with this one..Painting with the Broad Brush; there are many good servicing dealers; on forums more posts are about what went wrong not what went right. We have multiple good dealers around my area.
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Have to DISAGREE with this one..Painting with the Broad Brush; there are many good servicing dealers; on forums more posts are about what went wrong not what went right. We have multiple good dealers around my area.
Sorry, but no. I have interacted with enough Jeep dealers by now to figure out that the vast majority of them are incompetent at best; crooks at worst. Most of the Jeep dealers I have interacted with here in Washington State are simply terrible; same goes for those my brother and my dad have in British Columbia. Online posts only confirm personal experience.

The dealer that sold me my current Jeep, Tooele Motors, in UT, was very good; but they were the exception from a dozen Jeep dealers I have interacted with in recent years. A few years ago I had the most bizarre experience with a Jeep dealer in Provo, UT, that would drop your jaw in disbelief.

Jeep dealers didn't use to be so bad, but they have been going down this path after Fiat took complete control of Chrysler nine years ago or so.

If you got a good dealer, consider yourself VERY lucky. They are a dying breed.
Jeep dealers rank well below industry average in customer service.

Owners ranked Jeep 5th from the bottom in the most recent JD Power Customer Service study, which is better than they have been doing recent years.

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