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iLooking into a new 44 which of the three would be best for mostly street driven rig and snow ?
 

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I will guess this is for the rear axle? I had a detroit in a CJ, and it was fine, let me know it was there every once in a while. Had no real issue's on snow covered roads. I currently have ARB's there great, nothing like having total control over your locker. If I had to pick one I would go with the ARB, as you can control it.
 

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If you go ARB be careful of your air lines. In the last year I've seen several of my buddies blow an air line and lose their locker for the rest of the day. I'm pretty sure a few of them went ahead and upgraded to steel braided air lines.
 

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If you go ARB be careful of your air lines. In the last year I've seen several of my buddies blow an air line and lose their locker for the rest of the day. I'm pretty sure a few of them went ahead and upgraded to steel braided air lines.
i've heard that about plastic lines but my rear locker plastic line has rubbed through the undercoating and the paint on my gas tank skid plate. nothing but bare shiny metal. the best part is i can't even tell on the line where it rubbing.

could it be that there lines were ripped out from being over extended?
 

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i remeber seeing and electronic one somewhere. it was like 600 a pop. and when it wasnt locked, it was a limited slip. IMHO that would be best for street.
 

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I would say that if you are really looking at selectable lockers then look into OX. No electronics or air lines to deal with. They use a cable that you mount in the cab to engage/disengage the locker. ARB's are great, but there's just a lot of outside things that can go wrong and then render your locker useless on the trail.
 

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I would say that if you are really looking at selectable lockers then look into OX. No electronics or air lines to deal with. They use a cable that you mount in the cab to engage/disengage the locker. ARB's are great, but there's just a lot of outside things that can go wrong and then render your locker useless on the trail.
x2 on the OX. I have one in front, and it's awesome.
 

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i've heard that about plastic lines but my rear locker plastic line has rubbed through the undercoating and the paint on my gas tank skid plate. nothing but bare shiny metal. the best part is i can't even tell on the line where it rubbing.

could it be that there lines were ripped out from being over extended?
Nah, it was a hot day, air lines touched something hot and just exploded. The lines were plenty long, and didn't just get ripped out. Even if they had been ripped out, thats another argument against an ARB ;)

ARBs are convinient, but in my opinion there are just too many things that can go wrong with them: air lines, compressor, electrical, compressor tank to name a few. For something as important as a locker simpler is better imo. If you want a selectable I would vote for the OX.
 

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As one with a Detroit Locker, I say to get the ARB Air Locker for your conditions. I love my Detroit but I wouldn't want to drive on icy roads with it much.

Installed correctly with the air lines routed with a little common sense, the ARB Air Locker is virtually bulletproof. It's the locker of choice for most I know that do some of the toughest trails in North America located in Johnson Valley California.

And do not make the mistake of upgrading to ARB's heavier-duty air lines. The factory air lines are way stronger than necessary but will snap if snagged and present you with a very easy 2-3 minute trail repair using ARB's quick & easy air-line splice kit. If you went with heavy duty air lines or steel lines like some screwed up and ran, they will rip out fittings instead making for a very difficult or impossible trail repair. This is right from ARB's management made in a presentation I attended for ARB dealers. :eek: They said they only brought out the heavier-duty air line for those who don't believe a standard air line can be strong enough... but according to ARB's management, it most definitely is when routed properly. :)
 

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Thank you Jerry for the back up. I did a lot of research, and asked the pro's, and the ARB's where definitely on top, every time. OX is good, but have had a lot of problems in the past. Thanks for putting more light, on a well lit subject.
 

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Thank you Jerry for the back up. I did a lot of research, and asked the pro's, and the ARB's where definitely on top, every time. OX is good, but have had a lot of problems in the past. Thanks for putting more light, on a well lit subject.
Yep, even the ARB air compressor is problem free so long as it's not misused by being used as a primary source of air for airing up tires. The ARB Air Locker is a remarkable and reliable design that holds up well to the toughest trails imaginable. Those who mention problems they heard about are generally from those who didn't have them installed by an experienced ARB installer or who took shortcuts during the installation process.

Installed properly, the ARB will give many years of trouble-free performance. I dare say that I belive it is more reliable than the Ox Locker that I'm extremely familiar with, even with the Ox's current more refined and reliable version. :)
 

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i've been runnng ARB'a coming up on 15 years and have had 1 (one) problem. this year i ran over a large branch (3 in diameter) and it ripped the stock blue plastic line out right at the fitting. unfortunately you can not reuse the compression fitting so one had to be ordered. now i carry a spare compression fitting along with a splice kit just in case.
 

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Yep, even the ARB air compressor is problem free so long as it's not misused by being used as a primary source of air for airing up tires. The ARB Air Locker is a remarkable and reliable design that holds up well to the toughest trails imaginable. Those who mention problems they heard about are generally from those who didn't have them installed by an experienced ARB installer or who took shortcuts during the installation process.

Installed properly, the ARB will give many years of trouble-free performance. I dare say that I belive it is more reliable than the Ox Locker that I'm extremely familiar with, even with the Ox's current more refined and reliable version. :)
It's 6 of one half dozen of the other on this one Jerry. People who are die hard ARB won't accept anything else and people who are die hard OX won't either. I'm looking at it from the standpoint of the current hardware put out by both companies and the simplicity of one over the other. Everyone has seen problems with both OX and ARB. I'm not sold on the electric lockers yet because of bad bad news created from the Detroit Electrac a couple years back. That thing is junk.

We've got some pretty insane and tough trails in AZ to and I've seen less problems here with OX than I have ARB.
 

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I can see your point of view Jack, I like both but I'm around more ARB users who swear by them. Of course they all believe my old clunky Detroit Locker is the devil himself reincarnated. ;) :D
 
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